Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects? - page 14.

akamit

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It is needed to save the crypto industry - ICO must die completely or it needed just for the legit projects.
Investors have learned from their mistakes and they still need to learn more; they have to be more choosy on their investments.

Lately, the ICO industry became like the GPT industry.
I remember, back in 2014-2016, every month 100s of PTC, revshare sites were launched to scam people - the formula was rinse & repeat. ICO became the same thing...

I prefer IEOs from legitimate exchanges because I believe those exchanges do their investigation well enough before they launch the IEO. Maybe IEOs will be down in the future due to smart scammers. Roll Eyes

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Quote from: ethereumhunter on October 05, 2019, 04:25:24 AM

Maybe we can say that the ICO is dead, but we will not know if, in the future, the ICO can rise again. But yes, right now, the ICO has suffering to reach the investor, and maybe they still trying to survive until now. But maybe, this situation will clear the path for the ICO, so, in the future, the ICO can come back and can give the profit to the investor.

The ICO still running because we see so many ICO projects has released, but we don't know how they can attract more investors. We only know that some of them can reach the hardcap and the softcap, which we don't know if that is true or not. So you need to be careful when you want to invest in any ICO, make sure you can collect as much information as you can so you know what ICO to select.

There are a number of projects currently conducting ICOs and successfully selling in the midst of the many projects that have opted for IEO. I think the developer team who has a good project will remain optimistic even though IEO is currently in great demand by some investors because in the end investors will choose the best project instead of the sales method

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Maybe we can say that the ICO is dead, but we will not know if, in the future, the ICO can rise again. But yes, right now, the ICO has suffering to reach the investor, and maybe they still trying to survive until now. But maybe, this situation will clear the path for the ICO, so, in the future, the ICO can come back and can give the profit to the investor.

The ICO still running because we see so many ICO projects has released, but we don't know how they can attract more investors. We only know that some of them can reach the hardcap and the softcap, which we don't know if that is true or not. So you need to be careful when you want to invest in any ICO, make sure you can collect as much information as you can so you know what ICO to select.

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There are so many factors that inluence the ICO market...
- risk factors - at this moment the risk perception is very high, people are more suspicious and are basically waiting for the market
- projects - The ICOs I've seen lately are just blunt scams, or copies of other projects... the best projects around have migrated to IEO
- market - the whole crypto market is waiting for the bull run, so things are a bit paused in many projects
- US regulations
So many scams and failures end up killing the idea,nevertheless it is possible that if the market comes back, the ICO's will do too...
Bitcointalk has a lot of ANN and Bounty, but at this moment they are mostly IEO...

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Quote from: bgaf on October 05, 2019, 03:17:38 AM

Agree to disagree. ICOs have drop tremendously and that study cannot be based on rumors and clearly is a fact. But there are still number of projects that resort to ICOs and yet to still survive. I got a feeling some dev were not fond of trusting their project with IEO, and also, how about new coin not token, how many exchange support coin IEO? I'm pretty sure its few. So they choose ICOs to raise fund.

Is there already a coin crowdfunding using IEO? I only heard this from you, coins IEO must be a better idea than token since we already have many project created in ETH contract more them has been failed and other successful ICO also make there own coins. In coins there are better use of it since they see that ERC20 token was really a big failure.

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Agree to disagree. ICOs have drop tremendously and that study cannot be based on rumors and clearly is a fact. But there are still number of projects that resort to ICOs and yet to still survive. I got a feeling some dev were not fond of trusting their project with IEO, and also, how about new coin not token, how many exchange support coin IEO? I'm pretty sure its few. So they choose ICOs to raise fund.

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There haven't been many good projects in crypto space since investors stop investing in ICO, this means that even the present fund raising strategy is not solving scam issue in crypto space, exchanges is what stand between investors and projects now through IEO fund raising but its still not stopping scammers

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Quote from: phillymogul on October 04, 2019, 08:05:21 PM

Even after the onset of the bear market in January 2018, ICOs were still happening at a rate
of well over a hundred each month, but by 2019 the flow of projects had dwindled to almost nothing.

ICO PROCEEDS DROP TO $338M..

According to figures from cryptocurrency analytics firm LongHash and published on October 1,
ICOs are no longer profitable. They may even disappear completely in 2020, said researchers.
https://bitcoinist.com/icos-will-disappear-in-2020-as-data-shows-95-funding-decline/

But here on BitcoinTalk we see new [ANN] threads and [BOUNTIES]
Is this just smoke and mirrors or does this forum know something researchers do not?

ICOs are still there, but they will disappear eventually, more because of indifference than because of the regulators or scams. People want some levels of certainty, and IEOs can provide that. ICOs can't. Both are based on trust, but if an exchange messes up, people will have someone to blame. If you lose your money in an ICO because you messed up, that's on you, and most people don't care to deal with it, so they choose IEOs.

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Quote from: Sancho18 on October 05, 2019, 02:32:53 AM

Unfortunately or fortunately, tokensales in the form in which we have already become accustomed to seeing them are really dead. Investors need more protection to open their wallets again. Even IEO do not provide such protection and participation in them is more reminiscent of participation in a lottery or gambling than a real investment act. Maybe STO will be the solution to the problem, but there are also many pitfalls and risks. Worst of all, I do not see any new creative ideas with viable potential among new projects. Sad.

I had thought that finding ideas to attract investors using ICO was quite difficult. some ICOs that even appear to have concepts and are engaged in the same field. but, I am also very aware that up to now ICO has indeed begun to diminish.

most likely, the new ICO will appear quite a lot when prices recover again. I am sure, there will be enough investors who are eyeing potential ICO, IEO, or STO. so I think they also wait for the right time to appear.

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ICOs are no longer hot because now there is an IEO, a new way to raise capital and it's a lot safer for investors.
Besides, ICO projects are not really convincing now, the ideas are duplicating a lot and I have yet to see any really good ICO projects in 2019. It seems that the great ideas have been implemented currently with IEO.

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Actually, there is no need to be surprised about this because a lot of projects since 2017-2018 have ended in failure and some of the scams, and that also gives a little impetus why the income received by ico has decreased dramatically and yes the IEO trend has also been an influence on this because since 2018 some projects that implement IEO can be said to be quite interesting because the projects they bring are really serious projects and not like ico although some IEO at the beginning there are many who experience problems for example Project Bread, Gifto

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Quote from: Stanlo on October 05, 2019, 02:01:00 AM

ICOs aren't dead yet its just that no one have interest in them anymore

What is the difference between dead and having no interest?
I think the meaning of the word dead here is that there are no interested people, so ICO no longer exists

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scammers are responsible for all this and investors have move on to IEO from big exchanges, IEO is not that different from ICO though but more reliable, better to keep sticking with exchanges like binance or gate because they have good record of past IEO projects

Now IEO is also starting to lose interest, you can see IEO in some of the exchanges you mentioned, the smaller the profit gained from each project

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Unfortunately or fortunately, tokensales in the form in which we have already become accustomed to seeing them are really dead. Investors need more protection to open their wallets again. Even IEO do not provide such protection and participation in them is more reminiscent of participation in a lottery or gambling than a real investment act. Maybe STO will be the solution to the problem, but there are also many pitfalls and risks. Worst of all, I do not see any new creative ideas with viable potential among new projects. Sad.

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ICOs are no longer profitable because they aren't legit anymore, scammers have take over ICO fund raising since 2018 and many people lose tons of money to them, if ICO become extinct today its for the better because people are tired of all these scam artists and be want solution badly

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ICOs aren't dead yet its just that no one have interest in them anymore, scammers are responsible for all this and investors have move on to IEO from big exchanges, IEO is not that different from ICO though but more reliable, better to keep sticking with exchanges like binance or gate because they have good record of past IEO projects

Mianae

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ICOs are not dead yet. The ICOs were affected by couple of things as bear market which crippled investors choice of investment. Unending scam projects coming up daily to have an ICO. There's no regulation there's no guarantee of ROI to investors.

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Honestly,no one know and no one can predict when crypto will die. Because this is normal that every crypto is change it's price quickly whatever it is forward or falling. But it's up to you if you were believe to this kind of prediction. Remember that there are also a prediction last 2018 that bitcoin will die before year 2019 came but look bitcoin is still alive up to now.

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Quote from: Tipstar on October 04, 2019, 11:18:04 PM

The bull run mushroomed a lot of unplanned and haphazard projects and ICOs. They were focused on collecting money rather than doing the job. One of the reason for such a long depression in crypto is due to ICO. And I'm glad they are going. Crypto surely is a good platform to collect funds but people used it to scam. Now investors would only believe in projects that are actually regulated.

yes, investors are now beginning to not easily trust the ICO project. not because of the system, but only in good projects and surely they will invest. then it will be difficult for us to see projects using the current successful ICO system quickly or with perfect funds, because investors are no longer easy to fool. maybe someday will be completely lost and not used anymore, or maybe there will be new regulations that strengthen ICO for the better.

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Maybe you need to make an analyst too to the result of ICO who launch ANN on this forum, if you have a concern on it.

But, in my opinion the chart is right since there are many ICOs project who end up in scam or just didn't reach the fund as they wanted.

Because there is another way to invest in new project and profitable surely with the safe way. And I believe many people out there will choose IEO comparing to ICO.

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Some active ANN threads here are old ANN threads but with many active community members. The project must also be actively developing. Those new ANN threads are either going up against difficult obstacles before they make it or will not even reach their destination. Either way, the investors are already wary of a lot of scam and failed ICOs.

ICO coming to its end will be a sign of a new beginning. IEO is the new kind of offering right now. But we cannot tell when it will also be replaced with a better one. That is always the cycle.

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