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Quote from: [email protected] on January 09, 2020, 05:41:43 PM

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Perhaps we can say the ICOs is dead, but we won't know if the ICOs will be able to rise again in the future. But indeed, the ICOs has suffered to meet the investor right now, and perhaps they are still trying to survive at the moment. But perhaps the situation will be better in the future for the ICOs, so the ICOs will be able to return in the future and give the investor the profit.

I don't think the ICO will come back again. This direction has almost outlived its usefulness. I believe that the ICO will change, or it will be replaced by another way of raising funds.

Icos have been replaced already by ieos, and while ieos had a certain period in which they were very popular we are experimenting once again with ieos what happened with icos.

People are losing confidence in ieos because they are not performing as expected, and while this may surprise some investors it doesn't really surprise me because the only thing that has changed is the way the developers received the money from investors but the projects behind that process have not changed at all.

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Most altcoin markets are really struggling to survive this market so basically with a market like that you cant expect newer project because there are developed ones that are basically not doing good and confidence in investments is really down due to the recent losses most investors got hit by Maybe when the market picks-up and there is more activities and higher prices of some altcoins

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Quote from: [email protected] on January 09, 2020, 05:41:43 PM

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Perhaps we can say the ICOs is dead, but we won't know if the ICOs will be able to rise again in the future. But indeed, the ICOs has suffered to meet the investor right now, and perhaps they are still trying to survive at the moment. But perhaps the situation will be better in the future for the ICOs, so the ICOs will be able to return in the future and give the investor the profit.

I don't think the ICO will come back again. This direction has almost outlived its usefulness. I believe that the ICO will change, or it will be replaced by another way of raising funds.

It will be replaced by the IEO, raising funds through exchange is way more safer than trusting a team to hold and raise the money, at least there's a trusted middle man which is the exchange which we can go after if the team will scam and they understand that also because it could affect their reputation badly.

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Perhaps we can say the ICOs is dead, but we won't know if the ICOs will be able to rise again in the future. But indeed, the ICOs has suffered to meet the investor right now, and perhaps they are still trying to survive at the moment. But perhaps the situation will be better in the future for the ICOs, so the ICOs will be able to return in the future and give the investor the profit.

I don't think the ICO will come back again. This direction has almost outlived its usefulness. I believe that the ICO will change, or it will be replaced by another way of raising funds.

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Quote from: lighpulsar07 on October 06, 2019, 07:57:33 AM

Well for me, ICOs are now dead. All great developers aren't interested in developing good projects since the cryptomarkets isn't performing good since the price of bitcoin affects the cryptocurrency economy greatly the IEOs is basically pump and dump scheme most of its projects are shit only few projects in IEO are promising but i doubt that it will prosper.

Quite controversial statements about the current market. In your opinion, the developers, seeing how bitcoin has grown over 10 years from zero to $ 7000 (at the current rate), believe that it’s better not to continue next? I doubt it. Good projects continue to improve and develop new products, this is in no way connected with the speculations that occur on the market. Even if the price drops for $ 1000 per bitcoin, serious guys all will continue their development exactly because they believe that the future is not in money but in the blockchain.

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Perhaps we can say the ICOs is dead, but we won't know if the ICOs will be able to rise again in the future. But indeed, the ICOs has suffered to meet the investor right now, and perhaps they are still trying to survive at the moment. But perhaps the situation will be better in the future for the ICOs, so the ICOs will be able to return in the future and give the investor the profit.

It depends on what you think when people say that icos are dead, if people think that icos are going to disappear and we are never going to see them being somewhat successful in the future then they are wrong.

But if people are expecting that we are going to see something similar to what happened in 2017 in which it seemed that everyone was involved in icos and we saw an incredible growth in that market then we may say that icos are really dead because we are never going to see that again.

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Quote from: phillymogul on October 04, 2019, 08:05:21 PM

Even after the onset of the bear market in January 2018, ICOs were still happening at a rate
of well over a hundred each month, but by 2019 the flow of projects had dwindled to almost nothing.

ICO PROCEEDS DROP TO $338M..

According to figures from cryptocurrency analytics firm LongHash and published on October 1,
ICOs are no longer profitable. They may even disappear completely in 2020, said researchers.
https://bitcoinist.com/icos-will-disappear-in-2020-as-data-shows-95-funding-decline/

But here on BitcoinTalk we see new [ANN] threads and [BOUNTIES]
Is this just smoke and mirrors or does this forum know something researchers do not?

The forum is not doing anything, this is the most popular forum when it comes to cryptocurrencies and a huge amount of money moves in it every day so it is completely understandable that new developers want to promote their coin in the forum with the hope that some wealthy members will notice it and support them, icos will most likely disappear at some point, it was a good idea and it launched some important coins in the market but since then it has been abused by scammers and we cannot tolerate that any longer.

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Quote from: tsaroz on October 04, 2019, 11:06:41 PM

ICOs have morphed into IEO and the change is for good. The number of ICOs/IEOs too have dramatically decreased as investors have become more concerned about their investments. There are some shady exchanges that are listing IEOs with zero research and analysis just for a small fee but most of the people are now aware of such practice. Only the IEOs issued from a promising exchange are getting attraction while other are not fully funded. This is making the project team more dedicated to make their project look promising and actually working to prove their authenticity. It doesn't mean it would filter every scam but it would filter the most of them.

Investors main concern right now is how they can secure profits. The usefulness of the project is just a bonus because if the project did not meet the expectations of the investors, it won't survive the market in the end. ICO is constantly dying while IEO can offer for sense of security for the side of the investors. These shift had lead to smarter investors and critical decisions. Hopefully, everything cans still work out and the prices will recover soon in the coming new decade.

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I think that ICO projects are not going to die, but the time for their activities is now very inappropriate. Now there is a general decline in the cryptocurrency market, altcoins have been particularly affected and this has a very negative effect on the emergence of new ICO projects. Also, the problem of a high level of fraud among ICO projects has not yet been resolved. In this regard, investor activity is now extremely low. When these two problems are resolved, ICO projects will again become popular for investment.

ICO projects may never die,,, but they might as well be dead.

Look at all the ICOs that did raise money, you think they got it from individual investors? No, mostly people got it through a few big whales who were promised all kinds of bonuses. Nobody wants to throw away btc or eth anymore these days,,, they are tired of losing to dumpers and hunters and speculators.

now investors must be more selective in investing in new projects, ICO currently has lost a lot of investor confidence. and maybe the ICO could die or change to other investment methods, hoping that if IEO could replace ICO, but I personally prefer ICO, but in terms of security, IEO might be superior, in my opinion.

If we see lately many ICO projects have failed because of not achieving softcap due to lack of investor interest to invest in new projects, this is also due to the number of scammers which then made investors hesitant to invest in the new project and I think this It is normal that many investors begin not interested in putting their money into the new project. For me personally, what investors need is security in their investments so they don't lose the money they have invested.

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ICOs are not really dead, this shift cleared a path for more legit projects to raise funds for their project development. Without this new decline in ICOs investment investors would've yet be investing in projects without doing research.

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Quote from: ancafe on November 26, 2019, 12:43:34 PM

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if there is a good project doing ICO, it also will not get much attention from investors if they do not support advertising in large media. because marketing like that is also very necessary. It's the same as IEO, even though the project is good, but not using a good and large exchange, it just won't help their marketing.

that is not a reason why ICO / IEO is decreasing from year to year. I think this is because investors are not so interested anymore in the ICO and IEO projects, so many developers don't want to make IEO / ICO anymore. in addition, many scammers also have this effect. I just hope that projects can re-emerge as the bitcoin price recovers due to the upcoming halving.

yes, beside many scammers affect there are many reason such when the coins listing on the market the coins price lower than ico price its makes investor lose their fund. people start to leave ico and do not want to invest then make ico really die.....i think ico die for while, and will replace with another event who more profitable

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There are some shady exchanges that are listing IEOs with zero research and analysis just for a small fee but most of the people are now aware of such practice. Only the IEOs issued from a promising exchange are getting attraction while other are not fully funded. Maybe, ICOs have drop tremendously and that study cannot be based on rumors and clearly is a fact. But there are still number of projects that resort to ICOs and yet to still survive.

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Quote from: ancafe on November 26, 2019, 12:43:34 PM

Quote from: calandra78 on November 26, 2019, 11:11:47 AM

if there is a good project doing ICO, it also will not get much attention from investors if they do not support advertising in large media. because marketing like that is also very necessary. It's the same as IEO, even though the project is good, but not using a good and large exchange, it just won't help their marketing.

that is not a reason why ICO / IEO is decreasing from year to year. I think this is because investors are not so interested anymore in the ICO and IEO projects, so many developers don't want to make IEO / ICO anymore. in addition, many scammers also have this effect. I just hope that projects can re-emerge as the bitcoin price recovers due to the upcoming halving.

You could say now this new project is very difficult to attract investors to invest, we know this is caused by scammers who then make investors hesitate to invest because they have experienced failures before and this is a natural thing if investors become hesitant to invest and then impact on other projects that ultimately fail because of not achieving softcap, maybe when bitcoin is recovered, new projects will be able to become profitable again.

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Quote from: BlackboardTrade524 on December 06, 2019, 09:39:58 AM

People invest money to Ico or IEo or presale to get a better return. But nowadays, you will never find (except some IEO on Binance, Okex or Kucoin etc) Ico or ieo which was good. Sometime investors lose 50-75% of their capital by investing to the said icos or ieos. If you compare some projects by taking from reputed ico trackers, you will see the opening price is 75% lower than the initial price. So, why people will invest. On the other hand, many low quality icos are being offered to people or a project with an existing idea is being offered. So, people are not getting interested to invest on them.

that's true and that will decrease the possibility for the such ico to recover its price from bottom or it's almost impossible to do that. We have seen so many times people are still say if they are putting their believes on ico but it doesn't work right now. IEO is much more preferable.

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People invest money to Ico or IEo or presale to get a better return. But nowadays, you will never find (except some IEO on Binance, Okex or Kucoin etc) Ico or ieo which was good. Sometime investors lose 50-75% of their capital by investing to the said icos or ieos. If you compare some projects by taking from reputed ico trackers, you will see the opening price is 75% lower than the initial price. So, why people will invest. On the other hand, many low quality icos are being offered to people or a project with an existing idea is being offered. So, people are not getting interested to invest on them.

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projects continued to appear and quite successfully entered the market with their coin, not surprising. There was a large stock of market capitalization, and it gradually decreased - which is reflected in your chart.
and no one expected a prolonged market depression) everyone made plans and hopes
when the cryptocurrency rate goes up again (maybe not very soon), then the projects will appear again, maybe absolutely not the same as they were in 2017-18

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Quote from: RussiaUkraineTranslation on December 04, 2019, 08:18:21 AM

ICOs have been eclipsed in the form of IEOs on exchanges like Binance, Latoken, and ecxx.

I agree with Binance as they have a good reputation, but LA Token sorry but I don't trust the exchange, also about ecxx, I am not familiar with the exchange, probably a new one as I think it was just recently listed in https://coinmarketcap.com/exchanges/ecxx/ (no data yet).

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ICOs have been eclipsed in the form of IEOs on exchanges like Binance, Latoken, and ecxx.

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Quote from: gundala on December 03, 2019, 07:05:38 PM

Ico seems to be not very effective in attracting investors. I think this is influenced by IEO which gives greater trust. Especially if the IEO is on a global exchange, surely investors will be more interested in investing in the midst of this saturated market.

ICO is actually still alive but just doesn't attract attention that much nowadays. As you said, it's because the influence of IEO that guarantees the legitimacy of a project although only if the IEO comes from a large exchanges. However, nothing last forever IEO market is now becoming more stable aswell and not as hyped as it was before.

I just think that the market is now becoming saturated again after the hype has gone and we need some breakthrough but it seems that the whole market will just stay like this considering that the market also at the same time become a lot mature and not just throwing whatever crappy project that exist into the market.

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A new age has begun. The ICOs are now dead and the IEOs is starting to take over the gateway of investing. Even though there is already a new way of investing, it doesn't give an assurance that the projects are better because there are still IEOs that are scams and there is still a few number of projects that are actually useful and better.

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