Are Legendary Member Earning Too Much ? - page 2.

Kakmakr

legendary

Activity: 3472

Merit: 1963

Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform

Let me put it to you in this way so that you would understand the reason why Legendary Members should be paid more than more jr members. A company wants maximum exposure or advertisement for their product or service. So would you take a newbie account with say 200 posts or would you take a Legendary Member with say 6000 to 15 000 post history?

They also want people with quality posts, because they get more hits/views when people Google Bitcoin related topics. So my signature will show up at the bottom of my 6904 posts that I have posted on this forum. Wink

People are also familiar with other ranking systems on other forums and they accept that higher ranked forum members should know more about the topic than "newbie" ranked members. Roll Eyes

superving

full member

Activity: 938

Merit: 101

Maybe cause they have the highest stakes when it comes in signature but even though you only have low level rank it does not mean you wont get big profit, still depends on how active you are when it comes to bounty, like you join in social media, telegram, signature , and youtube.

Hivalley

member

Activity: 210

Merit: 19

You're placing a high level of importance on earning which should apparently not be so,but I'll cut you some slack on that.
Earning bitcoins(money) through cryptocurrency can come in numerous ways,other that just the signature campaigns you made mention of,and in majority of them,it is a level playing field for all ranks as earning is based on ones inate skills
But in the signature ads campaigns,there is rank disparity and earning is higher with the "higher" ranks and it's not a bad idea
There are a whole lot of effort and commitment put in to attain high ranks on the forum,thats why members get higher stakes than jnr members,and full members higher...... till it gets to the legendary rank, it makes ranking up worth it's every stress

jademaxsuy

full member

Activity: 924

Merit: 220

Quote from: Crypdon on February 16, 2019, 05:04:31 PM

One of the reasons why legendaries earn more is because they have a bigger signature space so it's not just what they say, it is advertising space for new ICOs to promote their coin on this forum

It's not the signature campaign alone and the reason why legendaries earn much more than lower rank. Lower ranks can also earn much more than the legendaries if he/she has the skill the same as legendaries or much more. I found some legendaries that didn't even know the correct time to use than and then in a sentence. English is not my local/main language is not a good excuse or reason, as long as your willing to learn then you can learn.

Crypdon

member

Activity: 616

Merit: 11

One of the reasons why legendaries earn more is because they have a bigger signature space so it's not just what they say, it is advertising space for new ICOs to promote their coin on this forum

vit05

hero member

Activity: 672

Merit: 526

Quote from: kingpin4321 on February 13, 2019, 11:45:37 AM

The amount of Shit posters in legendary status are very much lesser as compared to lower rank.
Well I don't see the benefits of this post you can advice one to pursue good posting with out undermining other member rank.
the OP has some work to do on his own personal his English and topic

You too!

kingpin4321

member

Activity: 280

Merit: 14

The amount of Shit posters in legendary status are very much lesser as compared to lower rank.
Well I don't see the benefits of this post you can advice one to pursue good posting with out undermining other member rank.
the OP has some work to do on his own personal his English and topic

DdmrDdmr

legendary

Activity: 2338

Merit: 10802

There are lies, damned lies and statistics. MTwain

Quote from: TheBeardedBaby on February 13, 2019, 09:45:02 AM

<...> It will be interesting to see the real number of the Self-made rank members with enough activity.<...>

Then the numbers go down 12,35% on aggregate, and we get as a result:

Code:

selfMadeRank nUsers
self-made Legendary (merits and activity) 7
self-made Hero Member (merits and activity) 29
self-made Sr. Member (merits and activity) 117
self-made Full Member (merits and activity) 355
self-made Member (merits and activity) 5782
self-made Jr. Member (merits and activity) 16901
Total 23191

Note: considered minimum 775 activity for Legendries.

Link to complete list of forum members with the above criteria: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Wl9a_Drl5LWPN3uG6pT3YPIYtkvRkZiGneukzHvVPoA/edit?usp=sharing

Data as of last Friday, sorted by self-made rank and name.

legendster

hero member

Activity: 1778

Merit: 764

www.V.systems

Quote from: vm1990 on February 12, 2019, 05:53:46 PM

Trust me most of us don't earn diddly crap, ad campaigns use to pay good money but then traffic here died off (3-4years ago this place use to be leading place for everything digital currency wise) now it's not really that interesting a place everything's been done so many times now

I'd say 5 - 7 months is a realistic time period when you're defining the drop in account value worth. I've personally received offers from unknown people who were willing to pay upfront $1k for my account for whatever reasons. And I was nowhere near legendary. And I've seen the digital goods section that was getting a lot of activity both from sellers and buyers last year when btc was around 5k.

Quote from: gentlemand on February 12, 2019, 06:28:43 PM

There are plenty of legendaries who've earned little to no merit. They're not going to get anywhere in terms of campaigns. The managers of decent campaigns aren't going to take on a shitposter no matter what their rank.

That makes no sense to me. You're thinking of the account's status ONLY in terms of campaigns and earning potential from those campaigns while in reality, the ranking system was present JUST to display a member's overall activity - regardless of the quality of their interaction.

The whole signature space renting was a happy accident that happened on this forum and then it took off. It has almost become an economy of its own. The ranking system had nothing to do with campaign management and was an alternative to the existing advertisement offered by theymos on this forum.

Jet Cash

legendary

Activity: 2744

Merit: 2462

https://JetCash.com

Quote from: jackg on February 12, 2019, 10:48:16 PM

On the merit standpoint. The ones who earn the most amount of merits tend to be merit sources. They have a bit of an unfair advantage as users might feel a need to merit them back for meriting them.

I don't think that is true. I gained a lot more merit before I became a merit source. I think a lot of members think that you don't need merits if you are a source. My last few merits to become a TEMP are taking an age, but that could be because I've backed away from my projects, and I've got more interested in the macro-political situation, and most people are only interested in micro/national politics.

TheBeardedBaby

legendary

Activity: 2212

Merit: 3148

₿uy / $ell ..oeleo ;(

Quote from: DdmrDdmr on February 13, 2019, 09:28:00 AM

Quote from: TheBeardedBaby on February 13, 2019, 09:05:59 AM

<...> Just a question do those have the required activity for the self-made rank or it's only based on earned merit?

Just based on earned merit (so really you are included in the above 39, regardless of the missing activity).

I thought about that, after I post the comment. It will be interesting to see the real number of the Self-made rank members with enough activity.
Anyways, so the next target for me is the Self-made legendary without enough activity.

DdmrDdmr

legendary

Activity: 2338

Merit: 10802

There are lies, damned lies and statistics. MTwain

Quote from: TheBeardedBaby on February 13, 2019, 09:05:59 AM

<...> Just a question do those have the required activity for the self-made rank or it's only based on earned merit?

Just based on earned merit (so really you are included in the above 39, regardless of the missing activity).

TheBeardedBaby

legendary

Activity: 2212

Merit: 3148

₿uy / $ell ..oeleo ;(

Quote from: DdmrDdmr on February 13, 2019, 08:59:47 AM

Quote from: o_e_l_e_o on February 13, 2019, 08:44:03 AM

<...>

Here we are ... (for all users, not just Legendries):

Code:

selfMadeRank nUsers
self-made Legendary 11
self-made Hero Member 39
self-made Sr. Member 108
self-made Full Member 368
self-made Member 6472
self-made Jr. Member 19462
Total 26460

Nice stats DdmrDdmr, as always.

In two weeks the self-made Hero members count will rise to 40 Cheesy

, just 4 activity left Wink

Just a question do those have the required activity for the self-made rank or it's only based on earned merit?

DdmrDdmr

legendary

Activity: 2338

Merit: 10802

There are lies, damned lies and statistics. MTwain

Quote from: o_e_l_e_o on February 13, 2019, 08:44:03 AM

<...>

Here we are ... (for all users, not just Legendries):

Code:

selfMadeRank nUsers
self-made Legendary 11
self-made Hero Member 39
self-made Sr. Member 108
self-made Full Member 368
self-made Member 6472
self-made Jr. Member 19462
Total 26460

Edit: considering just merits, not activity.

Quote from: gentlemand on February 13, 2019, 07:47:56 AM

<…> That's a pretty bonkers set of stats. Out of 2 million or whatever users there are less than 100 self made senior members, let alone legendaries.

I’ve altered the nEarnedMerits column to reflect intervals (used upper limit before).

This is the specific breakdown of Legendries:

Code:

selfMadeRank nUsers
self made Legendary 5
self made Hero Member 20
self made Sr. Member 29
self made Full Member 78
self made Member 517
self made Jr. Member 637
Total 1232

Note: Total number is slightly different from previous stat earned merit intervals for Legendries), since the above data originates in my current merit DB where ranks are up-to-date (vs the previous stat where ranks are as of December 2018).

o_e_l_e_o

legendary

Activity: 2268

Merit: 18588

Quote from: gentlemand on February 13, 2019, 07:47:56 AM

'dear, this is most excellentings advises.'

But what if that was the most excellent advice, and the user just had a broken keyboard? Wink

Quote from: gentlemand on February 13, 2019, 07:47:56 AM

That's a pretty bonkers set of stats. Out of 2 million or whatever users there are less than 100 self made senior members, let alone legendaries.

Not quite. Among the cohort of pre-merit legendaries, there are less than 100 self made senior members. The numbers of self made seniors out of all 2 million users will be higher, although probably not by much. I'm sure DdmrDdmr can give accurate numbers.

gentlemand

legendary

Activity: 2590

Merit: 3014

Welt Am Draht

Quote from: Lucius on February 13, 2019, 06:43:52 AM

That then includes you too and 99% of Legendary members on this forum, but I do not think that admin will do something like this. Maybe before the start of merit system something similar could have been done, but all old members play by the rules and really would be unfair that now they lose their ranks.

I'm fine with that.

If I'd been putting the merit system together I would've given people a grace period to justify their ranks and then removed them if they're clearly wasters which is what merit does.

In the old set up you could have reached legendary with 2-3 years of bumping every thread with 'nice project' or 'dear, this is most excellentings advises.'

Quote from: DdmrDdmr on February 13, 2019, 06:48:17 AM

That is to say, 43,24% of Legendries have not earned any merit to date, and an additional 10,32% have currently only earned one. Only 27,14% have earned 50 or above merits.
90,30% of Legendries have been active (at least logged-in, but we do not know how active they have been) from 2018 onwards, so the above data is representative.

That's a pretty bonkers set of stats. Out of 2 million or whatever users there are less than 100 self made senior members, let alone legendaries.

o_e_l_e_o

legendary

Activity: 2268

Merit: 18588

I would certainly like an option to view earned merit rather than total merit. It's now getting to the stage that you can't tell which rank a user started at, so you don't know if they've earned a couple of merits or several hundred without checking their merit history.

I find it astonishing that almost half of legendaries would still be newbies under the merit system. Having said that, I'm not sure it's fair to de-rank them just for that. Seems too much like ex postfacto. However, if they are serial spammers (which I suspect many of them are if they can't earn a single merit) then they should be banned instead.

DdmrDdmr

legendary

Activity: 2338

Merit: 10802

There are lies, damned lies and statistics. MTwain

Quote from: gentlemand on February 12, 2019, 06:28:43 PM

<...>

That’s an interesting call, but not likely to happen really.

I’ve crossed @piggy’s full profile DB from December 2018, and crossed it with current full merit TXs. It turns out that:

Code:

rank nEarnedMerits nUsers %
Legendary 0 959 43,24%
Legendary 1 229 10,32%
Legendary 2 107 4,82%
Legendary 3 80 3,61%
Legendary 4 51 2,30%
Legendary 5 54 2,43%
Legendary 6..10       136 6,13%
Legendary 11..50    368 16,59%
Legendary 51..100      114 5,14%
Legendary 100..250    76 3,43%
Legendary 250++    44 1,98%
Total 2218 100,00%

That is to say, 43,24% of Legendries have not earned any merit to date, and an additional 10,32% have currently only earned one. Only 27,14% have earned 50 or above merits.
90,30% of Legendries have been active (*=at least logged-in, but we do not know how active they have been) from 2018 onwards, so the above data is representative.

Edit: Heroes show rather poorly: 70,10% lack any earned merits, and Sr. Members are on the 81,80% range, although both sets have been active (*) during 2018 in somewhere near the 78% area.
If we delimit the data to those active(*) during 2018 we get 62,28% Heroes lacking earned merit, and 70,85% Sr. Members in the same situation. I guess we never see those around much.

Lucius

legendary

Activity: 3234

Merit: 5637

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Quote from: gentlemand on February 12, 2019, 06:28:43 PM

Now it's been over a year I think it's time to remove all airdropped merit. If you've been here for all that time and are legendary with a piddling amount of merit to show for it then it's time for a demotion all the way back to the start. They serve no purpose.

That then includes you too and 99% of Legendary members on this forum, but I do not think that admin will do something like this. Maybe before the start of merit system something similar could have been done, but all old members play by the rules and really would be unfair that now they lose their ranks.

Legendary members without single merit speak enough for themselves, but there are also exceptions because some were simply inactive in the past year. No active members can not earn merits, where there are again exceptions for profiles like Satoshi or Hal Finney.

r1s2g3

sr. member

Activity: 742

Merit: 395

I am alive but in hibernation.

I do not think you can earn from this forum if you have no skills, no matter whatever rank you hold. Don't be carried away the chip mixer signature payment. The approach that you are currently using will not help you to get in that campaign.
If you are interested in twit/facebook bounty then rank does not matter.

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