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October 05, 2021, 12:07:43 PM
#35
I don't think high privacy coins will disappear anytime soon. Other areas of cryptocurrency are rapidly developing now and therefore profit and attention do not work in the field of privacy. It should be recognized that states and their governments will primarily attack cryptocurrencies with a high level of confidentiality. However, this cryptocurrency will always have its supporters and a certain demand. The reasons why people try to use privacy coins can be different and they are not always related to criminal or other negative manifestations. Coins with a high level of confidentiality also have a right to circulate and exist.
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October 05, 2021, 11:28:35 AM
#34
i remember there was an issue with privacy coins before and that might be one of the reason for thier decline but i can still see some privacy coins on some top exchanges , that means they are still alive and theres still some demand on them .
if your concerned about the hyped , its normal that they arent in hyped now because the hype was on nft and defi but this doesnt mean too much .  i mean old coins are still relevant and defi and nft could dissapear soon and never go back
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October 05, 2021, 11:04:04 AM
#33
Privacy coin still has its niche market after all this is the internet, always have someone wishing to remain anonymous. Maybe not many like the old days but they're still there, niche after all. I remembered privacy feature used to be the main feature for many new cryptocurrencies before cex become so dominant and then privacy now is a thing of the past.
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September 30, 2021, 10:16:10 AM
#32
They aren't destined to fail just that this isn't their season and other trends are been chase after at the moment therefore privacy coins haven't been given much attention. They did have their share of the market in the past and will be dominating in the near future especially as countries trends to rollout their centralized versions of Bitcoin.

Once those centralise cryptocurrencies backed by the government are rollout and people begin to experience their disadvantages like not having access to their coins or it been frozen then they'll begin to see the usefulness of decentralization and privacy focused coins will be at the center of attention.

The government are fully aware of this scenario playing out as explained above which is why they're strategically using this time to try discouraging anyone from buying into the idea of privacy focused coins and also forcing the exchanges to delist them as when they're not accessable on exchange, people won't be able to purchase them.

Privacy coins won't be going anywhere. But governments' actions against them, will negatively impact their market prices in the long term. That's the least reason to worry about, since crypto has always been about utility. I guess privacy coins like Monero and BEAM will end up being traded through decentralized exchanges and P2P platforms as all centralized exchanges de-list them in order to keep governments happy. The average person is not tech-savvy enough to understand how decentralized exchanges work so adoption for privacy coins will be at its lowest. I'm fine with that as long as decentralization prevails in the long run. Just my thoughts Grin
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September 28, 2021, 01:52:42 AM
#31
Do you think privacy coins are destined to failure? If not, why? Your input will be greatly appreciated. Thanks. Smiley

They aren't destined to fail just that this isn't their season and other trends are been chase after at the moment therefore privacy coins haven't been given much attention. They did have their share of the market in the past and will be dominating in the near future especially as countries trends to rollout their centralized versions of Bitcoin.

Once those centralise cryptocurrencies backed by the government are rollout and people begin to experience their disadvantages like not having access to their coins or it been frozen then they'll begin to see the usefulness of decentralization and privacy focused coins will be at the center of attention.

The government are fully aware of this scenario playing out as explained above which is why they're strategically using this time to try discouraging anyone from buying into the idea of privacy focused coins and also forcing the exchanges to delist them as when they're not accessable on exchange, people won't be able to purchase them.
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September 28, 2021, 12:58:57 AM
#30
With the national regulatory policy, privacy currency will be paid more and more attention.
Actually yes, I agree with you. Now people don't care about privacy very much, but maybe if crypto becomes more regulated, people will want to use private coins more actively. On the other hand, I am sure that authorities are not in favour of such coins, so they can just ban those exchanges that will offer them, so that people even can't use them.

It is not like the people don't care about privacy anymore. They have become more knowledgeable about how to use Bitcoin anonymously. Unless there is a link to fiat conversion, it is almost impossible to trace the Bitcoin transactions back to you. Most of the users have realized this and those who need anonymity are being careful on this regard. But the downside is that now the users don't really need coins that are specifically designed for anonymous payments, such as Monero, Deep Onion, Veil and Verge.
This is a good point, now that mixers exist for larger cap projects like Bitcoin and Ethereum, there is less of a need for a fully private crypto that only does one thing, privacy. Mixercasino is a good option because it combines a casino with a free mixer. 0xMR is also a good way to play this strategy because it is used to pay for mixing of stablecoins and Ethereum. The only 100% privacy crypto I am buying now is a little Dero but that's because I hear Dollar Vigilante is going to pump it in his next video.
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September 28, 2021, 12:20:10 AM
#29
With the national regulatory policy, privacy currency will be paid more and more attention.
Actually yes, I agree with you. Now people don't care about privacy very much, but maybe if crypto becomes more regulated, people will want to use private coins more actively. On the other hand, I am sure that authorities are not in favour of such coins, so they can just ban those exchanges that will offer them, so that people even can't use them.

It is not like the people don't care about privacy anymore. They have become more knowledgeable about how to use Bitcoin anonymously. Unless there is a link to fiat conversion, it is almost impossible to trace the Bitcoin transactions back to you. Most of the users have realized this and those who need anonymity are being careful on this regard. But the downside is that now the users don't really need coins that are specifically designed for anonymous payments, such as Monero, Deep Onion, Veil and Verge.
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September 27, 2021, 03:29:39 PM
#28
Governments are surely behind privacy coins' decline in price. After all, they don't want people using something they can't control or audit. Monero is the leading privacy coin, but it's been struggling to reach new all-time-highs because of government oppression. Centralized exchanges are the ones who dictate the rules of the crypto market, so turning themselves away from Monero will only do more harm than good for the cryptocurrency's mainstream adoption.

At least, Monero will survive because of way it was designed. There are other alternatives to centralized exchanges, so it should only be a matter of time before people embrace them. Decentralized exchanges and peer-to-peer trading are the only options people have to get access to privacy coins. Prices won't soar that much because of reduced public exposure. But I'm fine with that as long as Monero is useful. Just my opinion Smiley
I believe that no privacy coin is big enough to be cared by the government honestly. It is obvious that none of them ever made it to a level where governments would have to intervene, they already dropped all by itself without the need of any external push.

You may consider that this whole process for the past 5 years was due to governments trying to keep it low, and I can't blame you because I do not have any data to back mine up neither just like you do not have any for yours, so we could be either right or wrong and nobody would know which one of us is right. However, I really doubt that any government anywhere in the world would care about a few billion dollars in size, that is nothing compared to what the big ones have.
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September 27, 2021, 12:40:42 PM
#27
We can't claim privacy coins a failure just because they are not increasing in price in the same ratio as bitcoin. Most of the coins are much lower than their all time high and if you look at the popular privacy coins, they are holding their prices in upper resistance. With the government around the world going hostile against crypto, the necessity of such privacy focused coins are ever increasing. And unlike most of other hyped coins, privacy focused coins are actually being used as a merchant payment.

Governments are surely behind privacy coins' decline in price. After all, they don't want people using something they can't control or audit. Monero is the leading privacy coin, but it's been struggling to reach new all-time-highs because of government oppression. Centralized exchanges are the ones who dictate the rules of the crypto market, so turning themselves away from Monero will only do more harm than good for the cryptocurrency's mainstream adoption.

At least, Monero will survive because of way it was designed. There are other alternatives to centralized exchanges, so it should only be a matter of time before people embrace them. Decentralized exchanges and peer-to-peer trading are the only options people have to get access to privacy coins. Prices won't soar that much because of reduced public exposure. But I'm fine with that as long as Monero is useful. Just my opinion Smiley
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September 27, 2021, 11:57:23 AM
#26
I don't think privacy focused coins are destined to failures. The internet has all kinds of people and so do the crypto community.
There are people who still care about their privacy and so use those coins to maintain their privacy.
As per some reports the % of population using cryptocurrencies is still less than 10% in the world.
So when this number increases the number of people using privacy focused coins will also increase and so privacy coins will keep getting more established in future.
In hindsight your calculation is true and i would like to see people venturing into privacy coins as well and the problem i see is that the authorities will not be happy to see that users are using these privacy based coins. The first option i see coming from the authorities when they regulate the cryptocurrency market is that, they will force the centralized exchanges to delist the privacy coins if they want to be in their legislation.

In short even though we want to see the privacy coins to succeed we might see them regulated and forced off the exchanges.

The people who do care about their privacy and are in need of privacy focused coins will find their way to those coins no matter how strict the regulation is.
Even if Centralized exchanges delist privacy coins then there are still decentralized exchanges which the users can use to buy/sell privacy coins.
Since decentralized exchanges cannot be regulated by the governments more number of people will shift from CEX to DEX.
With the rise of number of people in crypto community the value of decentralized exchanges will grow.
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September 25, 2021, 12:41:00 PM
#25
I don't think privacy focused coins are destined to failures. The internet has all kinds of people and so do the crypto community.
There are people who still care about their privacy and so use those coins to maintain their privacy.
As per some reports the % of population using cryptocurrencies is still less than 10% in the world.
So when this number increases the number of people using privacy focused coins will also increase and so privacy coins will keep getting more established in future.
In hindsight your calculation is true and i would like to see people venturing into privacy coins as well and the problem i see is that the authorities will not be happy to see that users are using these privacy based coins. The first option i see coming from the authorities when they regulate the cryptocurrency market is that, they will force the centralized exchanges to delist the privacy coins if they want to be in their legislation.

In short even though we want to see the privacy coins to succeed we might see them regulated and forced off the exchanges.
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September 25, 2021, 12:37:51 PM
#24
We can't claim privacy coins a failure just because they are not increasing in price in the same ratio as bitcoin. Most of the coins are much lower than their all time high and if you look at the popular privacy coins, they are holding their prices in upper resistance. With the government around the world going hostile against crypto, the necessity of such privacy focused coins are ever increasing. And unlike most of other hyped coins, privacy focused coins are actually being used as a merchant payment.
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September 25, 2021, 12:33:32 PM
#23

privacy coins still are alive and traded. even the GRIN coin is still in my wallet for more than2 years already, not sure if i can even profit from it but i'm keeping it.

there is a growing privacy project that is also dedicated to privacy named NYM project which they innovate what the TOR does and juggle the hops of TOR to make it more untraceable. Nym is in Binance Incubator program. maybe this will interest you to buy the NYM token too. https://nymtech.net/
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September 25, 2021, 12:23:37 PM
#22
I don't think privacy focused coins are destined to failures. The internet has all kinds of people and so do the crypto community.
There are people who still care about their privacy and so use those coins to maintain their privacy.
As per some reports the % of population using cryptocurrencies is still less than 10% in the world.
So when this number increases the number of people using privacy focused coins will also increase and so privacy coins will keep getting more established in future.

This indeed true. People are different when it comes to their preferences even towards this thing, and considering that the number of cryptocurrency users are not yet that significant to even impact the growth of privacy coins, I also think that this coin is meant to fail. It would be just a matter of more people adopting the use of privacy coins and its development as a currency.
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September 25, 2021, 12:09:29 PM
#21
I don't think privacy focused coins are destined to failures. The internet has all kinds of people and so do the crypto community.
There are people who still care about their privacy and so use those coins to maintain their privacy.
As per some reports the % of population using cryptocurrencies is still less than 10% in the world.
So when this number increases the number of people using privacy focused coins will also increase and so privacy coins will keep getting more established in future.
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September 25, 2021, 11:27:59 AM
#20
With the national regulatory policy, privacy currency will be paid more and more attention.
Actually yes, I agree with you. Now people don't care about privacy very much, but maybe if crypto becomes more regulated, people will want to use private coins more actively. On the other hand, I am sure that authorities are not in favour of such coins, so they can just ban those exchanges that will offer them, so that people even can't use them.
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September 25, 2021, 03:08:23 AM
#19
You are right that there are so many people who care about privacy what we see from Monero's low daily. There is a hype around NFT and Defi-projects now, so their native tokens are more likely to be successful now than any other types of tokens.
What is more, I don't think that there is an obligatory must for those who want to be anonymous to use private coins as privacy is a feature that can be added to already existing currencies.

You even can get privacy using Bitcoin if you use Tornado cash!
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September 22, 2021, 06:00:23 PM
#18
Privacy by default cryptos like Monero will be banned, optional privacy cryptos like zcash and 0xMonero will not be banned. We have seen this based on the fact that Monero has been removed from most major exchanges, while zcash has not been.

Exactly. Only cryptocurrencies with optional privacy will survive in the long run. I'm pretty sure centralized exchanges will prevent users from accessing the underlying coin's privacy features in order to comply with KYC/AML laws. After all, they don't want to lose their business by a full government crackdown.

I'm afraid Monero will continue to face skepticism from centralized exchanges due to the way it was designed. Expect to see constant de-listings until Monero is only traded through decentralized exchanges or in-person. What matters is decentralization and censorship-resistance. As long as people can achieve privacy through crypto, there should be nothing to worry about. Just my thoughts Grin
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September 21, 2021, 12:01:11 PM
#17
I think that the time has not yet come when confidential coins will be in demand for mass use. In order for this to happen, the cryptocurrency must be regulated by the governments of various countries, which in turn should drive traders into a corner from which there will be one exit to fiat by using confidential coins.
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September 21, 2021, 10:48:39 AM
#16
This won't be right or wrong, as each cryptocurrency has its own private use cases
While a number of possible methods exist to increase privacy for Bitcoin, including peer-to-peer transactions, though many crypto assets focus on privacy more directly through their technology. Some familiar security assets in the crypto space include Monero (XMR), Zcash (ZEC, Verge (XVG), Beam, and Grin. Dash is also on the list because it allows for additional anonymity by default. Although technically, the coin is not classified as a security asset.
Right now people don't care about privacy coins like Monero, Zcash, Dash, Verge, Beam, Horizen. They want to make money, not to regain their stolen rights.
There will come a time when privacy will be taken care of. It's all about timing - trends change and, unfortunately, privacy is at an all-time low on a global scale.
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