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So who is to be blamed? I would say the system, inflation, that's what is the basic cause of all this. If there was no inflation, buying land and building a house wouldn't cost as much as it does today, and the rental properties wouldn't be so high. So, we should blame the system for this.
I won't blame anyone particularly. If you look at it, we can blame everyone also not blame anyone. For instance, those who are paying high to stay you can blame them. On the other hand, even blame the owner for increasing the price. Also, you can blame those who can't pay high because they are not earning high.
The system has been broken for years. People had the chance before inflation to improve their situation. But they didn't. You can blame them too. As long as the system exist, inflation will keep on happening. In order to get out of this situation we need to improve ourselves. Before we reach the success that we are looking for we need to adjust according to the situation.
As human beings we have learned to evolve and adjust to our surroundings. I mean look around us. Those who are paying high they are somehow earning that right? They have adjusted their selves to their surroundings and has evolved.

We can blame the system for this as they are in charge of controlling the economy and inflation. But if we don't contribute and keep on blaming the system then nothing will improve. If you improve your own economy you can improve your country's economy by contributing to it. In order to live in the society we need to have a system. And it is up to us to fix the mistakes that is going on in the system. I think this is how we can improve the whole situation.
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The Airbnb is a concern for the locals for sure, but only the property owners are making the big bucks. With the provided information I think you work on a company or something and for that you can't move out from that city. If the demand is high then the property owners to make significant changes and rent out the house to people who are willing to live for a long time. Higher payer are always welcomed by them. In a situation like this, people will only focus on those higher paying people.
And who is to be blamed in such a situation? The owners or the tenants? I would say none, talking about owners of the rentals, who wouldn't want to get more money for something they earned and own? Every person doing any sort of business in any part of the world would want customers who would pay them more for what they are offering, so you can't blame the owners. And if we talk about the tenants, those who are ready to pay a higher rent to get the houses, you can't blame them either, because someone who can afford to pay enough to get a good place will always do, they don't need to hesitate because they can afford to rent the place for the demanded amount by the owner.

So who is to be blamed? I would say the system, inflation, that's what is the basic cause of all this. If there was no inflation, buying land and building a house wouldn't cost as much as it does today, and the rental properties wouldn't be so high. So, we should blame the system for this.
For people who run businesses in any field, of course they look for profits from what they have invested.
You are right, for renters they cannot blame the high rental prices because they have invested their money in the house so it is natural that they set the rental price according to their wishes and if the renters have the desire to live in that area of course they will still pay whatever the price is. the rent. During inflation it will certainly be very difficult for anyone because it is very difficult to buy a plot of land because the income they have is only enough for their own needs.
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Rentals like any valid revenue should increase the ability for landlords or housing builders to increase their activity.  Usually the shortage of housing is from planning restrictions and just lack of land that can easily be built on.  Supply is restricted by government regulations, sometimes labor and materials.
Dude, it's easy to say to build new houses on properties or lands but you have to consider the expenses of cement and other building materials, cement is a difficult export and if everyone continues to upgrade their properties then there's bound to be a construction material shortage in that certain area.

Regarding short-term rentals, I don't think it's their fault because they're more lucrative to property owners to do that rather than doing a conventional renting property. I don't know if this is a real problem but there are a lot of abandoned towns and ghost towns around the world that could easily house a population the size of a typical city but the government bureaucracy makes it difficult for those ghost towns to become habitable again so in short, I would probably say that improper land utilization of the government is a problem. Another problem I can think of is the image of landlords being greedy freeloading motherfuckers who just happens to own a property and was able to rent it out, removing that said image by being a better person will definitely be a big help in housing problem.
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The Airbnb is a concern for the locals for sure, but only the property owners are making the big bucks. With the provided information I think you work on a company or something and for that you can't move out from that city. If the demand is high then the property owners to make significant changes and rent out the house to people who are willing to live for a long time. Higher payer are always welcomed by them. In a situation like this, people will only focus on those higher paying people.
And who is to be blamed in such a situation? The owners or the tenants? I would say none, talking about owners of the rentals, who wouldn't want to get more money for something they earned and own? Every person doing any sort of business in any part of the world would want customers who would pay them more for what they are offering, so you can't blame the owners. And if we talk about the tenants, those who are ready to pay a higher rent to get the houses, you can't blame them either, because someone who can afford to pay enough to get a good place will always do, they don't need to hesitate because they can afford to rent the place for the demanded amount by the owner.

So who is to be blamed? I would say the system, inflation, that's what is the basic cause of all this. If there was no inflation, buying land and building a house wouldn't cost as much as it does today, and the rental properties wouldn't be so high. So, we should blame the system for this.
honestly having too much property just for the sake of raising income would be detrimental towards the housing prices, the people with weaker economy will hardly own any house while these so called landlord will keep accumulating property, but this honestly can be solved easily by progressive taxation towards the housing ownership.
by then people would think twice whether having property really worth the income or even might instead become liability.
the newer generation does indeed having difficulty nowadays to own a house due to the ratio of their salary to the price of housing in general, therefore they need help.
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Rentals like any valid revenue should increase the ability for landlords or housing builders to increase their activity.  Usually the shortage of housing is from planning restrictions and just lack of land that can easily be built on.  Supply is restricted by government regulations, sometimes labor and materials.
  Airbnb is business activity, usage of personal housing for private industry to compete vs hotel bills.  That might be why its disruptive to normal housing but I assume with airbnb the housing is used for normal residential purposes sometimes.
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The Airbnb is a concern for the locals for sure, but only the property owners are making the big bucks. With the provided information I think you work on a company or something and for that you can't move out from that city. If the demand is high then the property owners to make significant changes and rent out the house to people who are willing to live for a long time. Higher payer are always welcomed by them. In a situation like this, people will only focus on those higher paying people.
And who is to be blamed in such a situation? The owners or the tenants? I would say none, talking about owners of the rentals, who wouldn't want to get more money for something they earned and own? Every person doing any sort of business in any part of the world would want customers who would pay them more for what they are offering, so you can't blame the owners. And if we talk about the tenants, those who are ready to pay a higher rent to get the houses, you can't blame them either, because someone who can afford to pay enough to get a good place will always do, they don't need to hesitate because they can afford to rent the place for the demanded amount by the owner.

So who is to be blamed? I would say the system, inflation, that's what is the basic cause of all this. If there was no inflation, buying land and building a house wouldn't cost as much as it does today, and the rental properties wouldn't be so high. So, we should blame the system for this.
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I apologize - why don’t the city authorities build student dormitories and rent them out to students, solving 2 problems - settling students + getting an additional income channel?! Or why don't private investors do this? This is a “treasure2” for investment - there is a constant, growing, unmet demand! Plus, a bunch of services will be added there - from laundry to cafes/pizzerias and pharmacies, for students. Such projects provide good development where there were problems... It’s not right to take the problem , isolate yourself in it, and just complain... Many problems can actually be turned into positive events!
There already are a few student dormitories, but unfortunately, they're not enough to accommodate everyone; secondly, they have strict economic requirements to enter, although I believe they're usually full; and lastly, I've read rumors during Covid-19 regarding their unpleasant condition—not all of them, of course, but you get my point. The article I read was from 2021, and I'm hoping the situation has improved. Another new block of apartments was recently opened, but as I've mentioned earlier, it doesn't solve the issue; they need to facilitate more students, and the current accommodation is not enough.
In a digital world we live in, you expect technologies like Airbnb to be a must have and this is good for tourists if it works and a plus for home owners as they make more money on it, besides we have very little business ventures left for people to try out which is why many are venturing into it for easy profits.
Airbnbs' certainly provide options that either cannot be found in hotels or may ultimately be cheaper, and price is one of the most important factors. Definitely, they also play a vital role in the tourism industry; however, I believe that it has gone out of hand.
The last thing you want is regulation, let the free market economy do it's thing , besides you mentioned that you live in a tourist city which is a benefit for the locals that own property but a disadvantage for locals looking for nice affordable housing...

If I were in your shoes, I would be thinking of moving to a different city if the option is available as will be cost cutting in both accomodation and all other necessities(school, education, health, utilities etc)
I'm not against regulation; in Spain, in Barcelona, if I remember correctly, they banned short-term rentals in the town center. I understand that short-term rentals are both a solution and a problem. Homeowners found a way to boost their income, while renters, on the other hand, are forced to pay extravagant amounts in rent to cover their needs. However, there needs to be some balance between the two.
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...My hometown barely has any houses available for rent, and every year it's met with the challenge of housing new university students....

I apologize - why don’t the city authorities build student dormitories and rent them out to students, solving 2 problems - settling students + getting an additional income channel?! Or why don't private investors do this? This is a “treasure2” for investment - there is a constant, growing, unmet demand! Plus, a bunch of services will be added there - from laundry to cafes/pizzerias and pharmacies, for students. Such projects provide good development where there were problems... It’s not right to take the problem , isolate yourself in it, and just complain... Many problems can actually be turned into positive events!
Speaking about personal inputs or situations then the main reason why they didnt make out such move? Its because of having no capital or fund that would really be allocated to it.Knowing that having this kind of properties or business isnt something that comes cheap from building a dorm or an apartment then it would really be that something costly. We know that land becomes scarce and population is really that keeps bloating or increasing on which means that people would really be trying out their best to place themselves on the capital on which it would really be just that a common sense for those real estate investors or businessman that they would really be placing in near capital yet this would really be the sweet spot.

If popular comes bigger then houses are in demand or those kind of properties on which people do really need up that shelter.This is why it is really that becoming a profitable business and this
industry keeps getting bigger due to demand. Lots and building a house is never been cheap and since a certain individual do lacks budget then this is why they would really
ending up on having rental on which those business owners or investors would really be taking advantage out of that.
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I've been inactive for quite a while because I'm in the process of renting a house. I don't know how easy it is in other countries, but here, it's an extremely time-consuming and nerve-racking process. I spent more than a week in the streets without any success.
House hunting has always been like this in most parts of the world, and the fact that everyone wants to live in a neighborhood that has the convenience stores , hospitals, schools etc that are nearer to them...this translates to a case of high demand & low supply which also pushes renting a house upwards. Otherwise don't give up just yet if you still house hunting and you will definitely find something of your liking.

I know for a fact that many tourist-oriented cities across Europe are facing similar issues due to the increasing supply of Airbnbs and the increase in digital nomads over the years. This is rendering the situation uninhabitable for local residents, who have to face the constantly increasing rents because homeowners prefer to rent to tourists and digital nomads, who have a much higher spending capability.
In a digital world we live in, you expect technologies like Airbnb to be a must have and this is good for tourists if it works and a plus for home owners as they make more money on it, besides we have very little business ventures left for people to try out which is why many are venturing into it for easy profits.

In my opinion, it's doubtful that this situation is going to improve anytime soon. Touristic cities are bound to suffer from a lack of available housing for long-term rental, and Airbnb can no longer be regulated in order to create a balance between locals and tourists. What do you think can be done in such cases, and what would you do on a personal level? Move out, stick to paying an extreme amount for housing, or live in a substandard apartment hoping to find something better in the future?
The last thing you want is regulation, let the free market economy do it's thing , besides you mentioned that you live in a tourist city which is a benefit for the locals that own property but a disadvantage for locals looking for nice affordable housing...

If I were in your shoes, I would be thinking of moving to a different city if the option is available as will be cost cutting in both accomodation and all other necessities(school, education, health, utilities etc)
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The Airbnb is a concern for the locals for sure, but only the property owners are making the big bucks. With the provided information I think you work on a company or something and for that you can't move out from that city. If the demand is high then the property owners to make significant changes and rent out the house to people who are willing to live for a long time. Higher payer are always welcomed by them. In a situation like this, people will only focus on those higher paying people.

In a situation like this, you can live in substandard house for a while and that should be a wise decision. It is hard to find a good place with decent rental but not impossible. So for the time being you can manage the situation that way. On the other hand there are people willing to live together by sharing the rent. If you are okay with living other people then you can choose that option. That way you can get a decent living space also sharing the rent which will help even if the rent is high.

I don't know if this will help or you are willing to go with this plan. But I have faced the same situation. Finding a house for rental is a stretch. I have lived for 2 years with one of my friend sharing an apartment and the rent. Help the lot and later on I found a good place with cheaper rent.
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These are the usual laws of the rental housing market. If the demand is high and a lot of people want to move into rental housing, then there are fewer and fewer offers and each of them is growing in price, because they are becoming very important and valuable. This is an indicator that an excellent investment would be to start your own hotel business, or an apartment rental business.

I advise to OP to find a friend or girlfriend together with whom it would be possible to rent an apartment, pay for it together. I rented an apartment with a friend when I was a student.
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...My hometown barely has any houses available for rent, and every year it's met with the challenge of housing new university students....

I apologize - why don’t the city authorities build student dormitories and rent them out to students, solving 2 problems - settling students + getting an additional income channel?! Or why don't private investors do this? This is a “treasure2” for investment - there is a constant, growing, unmet demand! Plus, a bunch of services will be added there - from laundry to cafes/pizzerias and pharmacies, for students. Such projects provide good development where there were problems... It’s not right to take the problem , isolate yourself in it, and just complain... Many problems can actually be turned into positive events!
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Okay, it's been a while since I've updated this thread, but I'm seeing that other users kept it going. The housing market in Greece, especially in touristy areas, is quite awful. My hometown barely has any houses available for rent, and every year it's met with the challenge of housing new university students. The available properties are often old, expensive, too small, or generally a combination of these unpleasant characteristics. I've moved to a different city now, which is considerably larger and also touristy but not solely dependent on tourism. Last year, the housing market wasn't that bad, at least not as terrible as it currently is. This year, there's been a great surge of Airbnbs', with whole blocks of flats aiming for short-term rentals. The average rent has increased by over 20% compared to 2022.

I recently rented a house that was quite new and in decent condition; however, this property wouldn't be worth its money if I found it in 2022. The whole city center is filled with Airbnbs', I believed that the bubble would eventually burst, but new ones just keep on coming.
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In most countries these days, it's like your entire salary is being consumed by the rent for your apartment. That's sad truth that many areas are suffering these days.
Can't stop the increase because these owners are also needing to adjust their rates and if there's not that much housing program in areas where you guys are located, it's not only you that does experience it.
We may not see this situation improving soon but it's not also going to be at top for most times.
I have little doubts that at some point on the future we may see another global crisis caused by real estate, since every single person needs a place to be and yet real estate prices have become increasingly high during the past decades, however I really think this is a bubble which could explode soon, as even if everyone needs a place to live, it is not as if people cannot find a way to make do without renting or buying their own property, and this could collapse the demand and the prices of real estate as well.
I am also believing that this bubble will pop soon and it's just a matter of time. I thought that after the pandemic and with all of these wars, everything will stabilized.
But it seems not and everyone is just coping to recover and that's why most of the properties are too expensive. I'm just waiting for that moment for it to explode and I am sure that time will come.
And those hoarders that have been doing that and bought those properties on a high price, won't be able to sell it higher.
And that is in fact the perfect moment to buy and we saw this during the 2008 real estate crisis at the US, in which everyone panicked and wanted to sell at the same time, this drove up the supply and the demand plummeted, so anyone that had cash in hand could buy for a 50% discount or more, the only issue is that under those circumstances you cannot buy with credit as banks do not want to extend credits to anyone, even to those that could actually pay it, so you will need to buy your dream property exclusively with cash.
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The presence of many room rental applications is certainly the best way for those who want to rent out a room or house. It is natural that many people feel helped by these applications because they can choose the place they want. On the other hand, of course this is a problem for hotel owners which makes the occupancy rate become quiet.
There is no doubt that the existence of Airbnbs and other short rental applications has significantly made it easier for people to get a place for a quick vacation or stay; not only does it make things more convenient as everything they need is on one application, but it also gives the convenience of making a reservation and booking with just a few clicks, unlike the traditional way of either personally going to the place or making a call (a task many of us do not really enjoy). However, in contrast with the convenience it brings us these applications also bring bad sales for hotels and other similar establishments as fewer and fewer guests are interested in staying in their places.
reservation in hotel still has its perks, airbnb is just home sharing, you can expect significantly lesser satisfactory service, its as if you are just some random temporary roomates renting room and thats it.
meanwhile hotel are full fledged good services, from the very first time you reserved until you checked out.
it has its own market honestly.
airbnb usually are being taken advantage of by those relatively young people seeking for affordable rents, meanwhile hotel are for those vacation with much money.
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I've been inactive for quite a while because I'm in the process of renting a house. I don't know how easy it is in other countries, but here, it's an extremely time-consuming and nerve-racking process. I spent more than a week in the streets without any success.

I know for a fact that many tourist-oriented cities across Europe are facing similar issues due to the increasing supply of Airbnbs and the increase in digital nomads over the years. This is rendering the situation uninhabitable for local residents, who have to face the constantly increasing rents because homeowners prefer to rent to tourists and digital nomads, who have a much higher spending capability. On the one hand, from homeowners' points of view, it's understandable; they want to make the most out of their property, but on the other hand, locals will ultimately be forced to leave the city or live in poor conditions.

For instance, a typical example of how much remote working has spread in Europe and Greece specifically is the following: The official digital nomads Facebook group used to have less than 5,000 users approximately a year ago; now it has over 34,000, which doesn't necessarily mean that all these people live in Greece and work remotely, but I'm trying to emphasize how broader the issue is for locals because there's an increasing interest in short-term rentals. I remember a few years ago, the local newspaper was filled with housing listings, but after the introduction of Airbnb and short-term rentals, this has changed. Not only is there a lack of housing due to the increasing demand and the constantly decreasing supply, but those that are available are too expensive and, in some cases, unsuitable to live in due to how small and improvised they are. My previous apartment was in the basement and suffered from serious humidity and mold issues.

The average rent for a one-bedroom apartment in my area is about €400, which is still far from being perfect or ideal, often lacking basic utilities such as proper heating or a solar water heater, which is a must for the 300 days a year of sunshine we have. I know that compared to other European cities, this amount of money sounds insignificant, but when the average salary is approximately €700, you can wish yourself good luck living alone. No wonder almost half of the population aged between 18 and 25 still lives with their parents.

In my opinion, it's doubtful that this situation is going to improve anytime soon. Touristic cities are bound to suffer from a lack of available housing for long-term rental, and Airbnb can no longer be regulated in order to create a balance between locals and tourists. What do you think can be done in such cases, and what would you do on a personal level? Move out, stick to paying an extreme amount for housing, or live in a substandard apartment hoping to find something better in the future?

Ultimately the balance of short term rentals vs long term rentals vs home ownership is heavily dictated by government policies which can vary wildly by country, so it's a hard answer to pin down. In some European countries they give renters strong protection from eviction, but you could argue that this disincentivizes new potential landlords from entering the market and incentivizes short term holiday lets instead. There should be a sustainable balance found for each, but demand can also vary by region and city, so it is a tough job to create laws to benefit everyone. Ultimately home owners will have the easiest ride, but getting on to the property ladder can be very tough these days.
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The problem is not Airbnb and digital nomads, the problem is the mentality of European people. You can't give me a single valid reason of why you should leave your parents basement and rent a 15sqm apartment. Just why? Why should you leave your parents? What's wrong with parents and sons and daughters living with them till they get married? I love this part of Asian mentality, they live with their parents, even after the marriage.
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In my personal opinion, I emphasize this, such a long term care of parents, leads to the development of "adult infantilism". in simple words - adult children can not become independent, and then, when they are forced to start living independently - for them it is a shock !
I am not against kinship relations, showing respect and love to parents.... But it is often behind it that children are not independent and are afraid to be responsible for their own lives.... 

If we look at what happens in the US, the age at which children become emancipated is even lower than in Europe, and for better or worse, it is the richest and most powerful country on earth for the last century or so. We could criticise the USA for many things that I'm not going to go into here, but it depends on what you say about Asian culture being better because they live together until they emancipate. Neither yes nor no. And in southern European countries the age of emancipation is higher. In Spain it is around 30 years old, so the problem of rising prices does not lie in the fact that they emancipate at 18, generating a need for housing.

I can only add that such processes can also be the result of cultural traditions, local habits and other reasons. Whether this is bad or good is the main question. My personal opinion is that it is bad, because I am in favor of early independence and responsibility, and I would add men in the first place. For example, in our country (Ukraine), a "boy" 25-30 years old living with his parents causes a smirk and real incomprehension. Even in big cities where life and accordingly real estate/rent is higher - most people try to earn more to meet their needs. 
legendary
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I agree with you that there is not going to be many changes anytime soon. Here in Europe, we have some Mediterranean cities that are getting visitors all around the year, it just doesn't make any sense for the landlord to get long term tenants when he can rent out his apartment short term with a premium to tourist. Tourist have much more money to spend on housing and don't care about paying higher prices as long as they are close to the city centre. The location is key here, as tourist are looking for ways to save as much time as possible in getting around the city. Which leads to the only real solution for the people living in the city, moving outside of the city centre. The time tourist will save to get around, the residents have to make up by commuting more to work. Some cities try to increase the regulation and make it harder for landlords to turn their apartment into Airbnb flats, but this is not going stop the change it will only slow it down a bit.

Short-term rental will always be more profitable for those who rent out their home, even in cities where there is not a large flow of tourists.

There are even business models where the tenant rents an apartment for a long time, and then tenant, rents it out on a daily basis and thus earns money. If the owner of the property does not want to do this, does not want to spend time on it, then he will look for a long-term lease, if he wants to rent it out on a daily basis, then he can try to do this himself. But for this it is important that the apartment is located close to the center (or business center), or not far from the station.
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The presence of many room rental applications is certainly the best way for those who want to rent out a room or house. It is natural that many people feel helped by these applications because they can choose the place they want. On the other hand, of course this is a problem for hotel owners which makes the occupancy rate become quiet.
There is no doubt that the existence of Airbnbs and other short rental applications has significantly made it easier for people to get a place for a quick vacation or stay; not only does it make things more convenient as everything they need is on one application, but it also gives the convenience of making a reservation and booking with just a few clicks, unlike the traditional way of either personally going to the place or making a call (a task many of us do not really enjoy). However, in contrast with the convenience it brings us these applications also bring bad sales for hotels and other similar establishments as fewer and fewer guests are interested in staying in their places.
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In my opinion, it's doubtful that this situation is going to improve anytime soon. Touristic cities are bound to suffer from a lack of available housing for long-term rental, and Airbnb can no longer be regulated in order to create a balance between locals and tourists.

In my own opinion, its only going to get worse as more tourists might visit in the future, thereby increasing the rental fees of those houses. There might even be a time that this cities are occupied by tourists alone. Government might do little or nothing about this because those tourists are instrumental to the growth of the economy and it means good business for them, they might have imposed high tax to house owners in that region leading to a very good increase in rental fee.

House owners too have the right to rent their property to anyone they wish  and you know my friend that the highest bidder goes home with the item. They're focused on making more money than embarking on humanitarian projects of considering those locals that have less to offer. Government can subsidize rental fee and build low cost comfortable housing, but are they willing to spend that money?.

In conclusion, this is a general issue plaguing most countries and the only effective solution I've seen is for you to move to where you can afford. Settle down there and manage it until you're  buoyant enough to move back to the more comfortable, high rental cities.
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