Topic: Are there any bitcoin Sportsbook without KYC procedure? (Read 676 times)

Quote from: Degens on September 16, 2020, 12:49:56 AM

Hi!

Are there any besides Nitrogen? It is so hard to find trustworthy sportsbook who accepts bitcoin(or BCH would be best) and has eSports in theirs offer. I have been using Betcoin and mBitcasino but they seem bit fishy. Even site like fairlay which is crypto only has KYC procedure... and i don't get it.

You can find the List of the best Cryptocurrency Sportsbooks here: http://sportstatist.com/cryptocurrency-sportsbooks-eng/

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Degens.com is a betting exchange that uses the stablecoin DAI. It requires no KYC and is non custodial.

If you want to spread the word about your site, don't bump an old thread here. It's a necrobumping.

There's a notice while you are typing your reply and you ignored it.

Basically, don't be worried about KYC. It's not a mandatory requirement on most gambling sites. We are not yet on the period wherein the centralization of most crypto gambling sites will be forcibly implemented.

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Everything is completely relative. It will just depend on how much you win. If you win little, I don't think they'll ask for a KYC anytime soon. If you hit the jackpot, or have a lot of winnings, then the trouble may well start. This will differ per bookmaker / casino and I don't think there is a fixed guideline for this. It's a matter of reputation and experience indeed to see which casinos use a KYC for which amount. Maybe nice to set up a table with the help of user experiences.

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KYC is surely a problem to most of the gamblers out there as we like to play without submitting any credential as it is just a hassle in our side where we want to gamble only. I haven't use Nitrogen yet but I see that they are trustworthy as you have experienced already in using it.

You can try, cloudbet. I've been using it for quite a while already and I was able to use it without submitting any KYC, I am no so sure whether it will work also to big bettors.

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It is also important what kind of reputation a site has. You can write whatever you want in the terms about kyc procedure, but as long as the bookmaker has a good reputation (stories can checked easily on the internet) then that should be a better gauge to decide which site you are going to play on. For me, I also look how a site is looking, if the software is decent and professional, all important points.

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There are many options. Check these links out.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bitcoin-sportsbook-with-instant-withdraw-and-no-kyc-5195221

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/recommand-some-trusted-bet-site-without-kyc-but-secured-5107005

https://amp.reddit.com/r/sportsbook/comments/amz2g5/bitcoin_sportsbook_without_id_verification/

Most crypto sportsbooks only ask for KYC if they observe something shady which is usually specified in their T&C.

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My favorites are Cloudbet & FortuneJack but there's a nice list of crypto casinos

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Most of the bitcoin focused casino doesn't required users to undergo KYC however when you look at some of their terms and services they can still ask KYC if they found you suspicious. You can try visit some Sportsbook one by one and look their terms and conditions to verify it.

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Hi!

Are there any besides Nitrogen? It is so hard to find trustworthy sportsbook who accepts bitcoin(or BCH would be best) and has eSports in theirs offer. I have been using Betcoin and mBitcasino but they seem bit fishy. Even site like fairlay which is crypto only has KYC procedure... and i don't get it.

I played on sportbet.io , they accept BTC and as far as i played last time( more than 8 months ago) they didn't take KYC for Payouts.
So you can give it a check and can ask their live support about their any changes in the withdrawal process or not.

You can moreover bet on stake.com which also has sports betting options. They too do not take KYC for processing the winnings.

But it's always better to ask the support team at a particular site and enquire about all the details before depositing a single penny.

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Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform

Cloudbet earlier had the KYC free access on sports betting. It also had the live betting access once after the closing of directbet, which is the most trusted gambling platform without KYC in the earlier days. Now almost every gambling website has got KYC to be fulfilled. In recent days I find casineos to be close to be anonymous, because everything is integrated with blockchain.

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I am on Bitsler for a week, and it's very nice casino! From recently they have sport book! So it's one of the good places for people who like to gamble and bet on sports using crypto, the list of coins they accept is long.
Check this nice review: https://www.btcgosu.com/review/bitsler/. For orientation purposes you can check their page about sports, direct link: https://www.btcgosu.com/bitcoin-casino-games/sports-betting/. Before you start betting in any crypto casinos make a quick research about the casino, BTCGOSU is a perfect place to start!

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Hi!

Are there any besides Nitrogen? It is so hard to find trustworthy sportsbook who accepts bitcoin(or BCH would be best) and has eSports in theirs offer. I have been using Betcoin and mBitcasino but they seem bit fishy. Even site like fairlay which is crypto only has KYC procedure... and i don't get it.

fairlay.com
best btc book as far as odds go, been using for at least 5 years no problems ever

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Degens.com is a betting exchange that uses the stablecoin DAI. It requires no KYC and is non custodial.

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Quote from: stomachgrowls on June 12, 2018, 05:16:16 PM

Hi!

Are there any besides Nitrogen? It is so hard to find trustworthy sportsbook who accepts bitcoin(or BCH would be best) and has eSports in theirs offer. I have been using Betcoin and mBitcasino but they seem bit fishy. Even site like fairlay which is crypto only has KYC procedure... and i don't get it.

Yes Vegascasino accepts BTC and no KYC is required unless it's necessary according to their Terms and condition. You can check them out https://vegascasino.io/promotions?utm_source=cc-vg-1

All the best

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Yes, https://www.betbit.com does not have a KYC procedure. All funds can be withdrawn instantly with no human intervention.

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Despite of this, he asks for a sportsbook without KYC!

Then you are in clear violation almost everyday Roll Eyes

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Quote from: Joel_Jantsen on June 12, 2018, 04:54:08 PM

Quote from: mirandastings on June 12, 2018, 09:38:29 AM

Quote from: Joel_Jantsen on June 12, 2018, 04:54:08 PM

What is the main issue with KYC ? Why is it so bad and frowned upon by people ? Can't it prevent misbehavior by users and be a positive thing in some of the cases ?

My guess is that its often a trust issue. Not everybody is keen on sending their personal information to strangers, especially unlicensed ones. If the platform is "trusted" and licensed, users would be less apprehensive about sending in their IDs. Crypto-currency gambling exploded with the promise of keeping their users anonymous. but that is no longer the case, some of them use KYC as an excuse to keep deposits. Nitrogen has been the best non-kyc book so far,with fair odds. coinbet24.com has been great in that regard, but their odds are horrible.

Exactly it's a trust issue. Bitcoin allowed us to take this out of the equation, and centralized crypto exchanges, centralized BTC sports books, etc etc etc, have spent years trying to bring it back in.

But BookiePro is built ON a blockchain... so it is decentralized all the way through. That's why there is no KYC...

That's just wrong.Building on blockchain doesn't mean the service won't ask for the KYC documents. They games, provable fair mechanism would be on the chain but I'm sure they will imply rules since humans would be playing behind the screen.A simple example would be allowing multiple accounts.If they don't keep a track,a lot of players would create multiple accounts and cheat.This is just a mere instance where rules need to be applied explicitly even if the casino is based on the blockchain.

Its good if they are already aware on such possible scenario to happen but it is really prone to abuse and multi-accounting and i agree that there should be an immediate rules for this one if none then we do know the possible situations might happen ahead. There are still some Sportsbook who arent asking out for KYC unless on some circumstances which you do really need to comply if been asked.

A lot can be said in both ways. KYC prevents some cases of misuse and cheating, but in the same way you should ask for it from the very start (the registration) and not wait for people to gamble and IF they win and want to withdraw ask them for KYC. With all the new regulations all over the world, everything a company does should be completely transparent because trust goes both ways.

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Quote from: mirandastings on June 12, 2018, 09:38:29 AM

Quote from: mirandastings on June 12, 2018, 09:38:29 AM

What is the main issue with KYC ? Why is it so bad and frowned upon by people ? Can't it prevent misbehavior by users and be a positive thing in some of the cases ?

My guess is that its often a trust issue. Not everybody is keen on sending their personal information to strangers, especially unlicensed ones. If the platform is "trusted" and licensed, users would be less apprehensive about sending in their IDs. Crypto-currency gambling exploded with the promise of keeping their users anonymous. but that is no longer the case, some of them use KYC as an excuse to keep deposits. Nitrogen has been the best non-kyc book so far,with fair odds. coinbet24.com has been great in that regard, but their odds are horrible.

Exactly it's a trust issue. Bitcoin allowed us to take this out of the equation, and centralized crypto exchanges, centralized BTC sports books, etc etc etc, have spent years trying to bring it back in.

But BookiePro is built ON a blockchain... so it is decentralized all the way through. That's why there is no KYC...

That's just wrong.Building on blockchain doesn't mean the service won't ask for the KYC documents. They games, provable fair mechanism would be on the chain but I'm sure they will imply rules since humans would be playing behind the screen.A simple example would be allowing multiple accounts.If they don't keep a track,a lot of players would create multiple accounts and cheat.This is just a mere instance where rules need to be applied explicitly even if the casino is based on the blockchain.

Its good if they are already aware on such possible scenario to happen but it is really prone to abuse and multi-accounting and i agree that there should be an immediate rules for this one if none then we do know the possible situations might happen ahead. There are still some Sportsbook who arent asking out for KYC unless on some circumstances which you do really need to comply if been asked.

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Get your game girl

What is the main issue with KYC ? Why is it so bad and frowned upon by people ? Can't it prevent misbehavior by users and be a positive thing in some of the cases ?

My guess is that its often a trust issue. Not everybody is keen on sending their personal information to strangers, especially unlicensed ones. If the platform is "trusted" and licensed, users would be less apprehensive about sending in their IDs. Crypto-currency gambling exploded with the promise of keeping their users anonymous. but that is no longer the case, some of them use KYC as an excuse to keep deposits. Nitrogen has been the best non-kyc book so far,with fair odds. coinbet24.com has been great in that regard, but their odds are horrible.

Exactly it's a trust issue. Bitcoin allowed us to take this out of the equation, and centralized crypto exchanges, centralized BTC sports books, etc etc etc, have spent years trying to bring it back in.

But BookiePro is built ON a blockchain... so it is decentralized all the way through. That's why there is no KYC...

That's just wrong.Building on blockchain doesn't mean the service won't ask for the KYC documents. They games, provable fair mechanism would be on the chain but I'm sure they will imply rules since humans would be playing behind the screen.A simple example would be allowing multiple accounts.If they don't keep a track,a lot of players would create multiple accounts and cheat.This is just a mere instance where rules need to be applied explicitly even if the casino is based on the blockchain.

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Quote from: betting.co on June 12, 2018, 04:02:22 AM

What is the main issue with KYC ? Why is it so bad and frowned upon by people ? Can't it prevent misbehavior by users and be a positive thing in some of the cases ?

My guess is that its often a trust issue. Not everybody is keen on sending their personal information to strangers, especially unlicensed ones. If the platform is "trusted" and licensed, users would be less apprehensive about sending in their IDs. Crypto-currency gambling exploded with the promise of keeping their users anonymous. but that is no longer the case, some of them use KYC as an excuse to keep deposits. Nitrogen has been the best non-kyc book so far,with fair odds. coinbet24.com has been great in that regard, but their odds are horrible.

Exactly it's a trust issue. Bitcoin allowed us to take this out of the equation, and centralized crypto exchanges, centralized BTC sports books, etc etc etc, have spent years trying to bring it back in.

But BookiePro is built ON a blockchain... so it is decentralized all the way through. That's why there is no KYC...

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Pure Bitcoin Sportsbooks in general don't have KYC.

The use of “pure” bitcoin sportsbooks is on the rise. A pure bitcoin sportsbook is one that does not have a fiat currency symbol on the site at all. Your funds are always in bitcoin and the bets are all taken in bitcoin. For example at the offshore sportsbook you would bet 100$ on Mc Gregor to win but at the pure bitcoin sportsbook you would bet 0.04 BTC on Mc Gregor to win.

no not really , there are some pure bitcoin sites that may ask for KYC at any moment ( not always but there is a possibility )
just like sportsbet.io and Betcoin , there are some reported cases where the site asked for ID verification

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Quote from: mirandastings on June 12, 2018, 09:08:58 AM

BookiePro is a product I am very keen on. It's a betting exchange (the pro choice , x10 better than sportsbook)

Right now they just launched beta - play money but 5 BTC (!!!) in FIFA World Cup 2018 giveaways.

Zero KYC (now or for full launch) - no email, no NOTHING. 20 second sign-up
You have to download an app (cos the back-end is fully decentralized).

5 BTC giveaway thread is here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bookieprofundecentralized-sports-betting2018-nfl-competitionwin-btc-4434686

Seriously, this product is like NOTHING ELSE in sports betting. Can't wait for full autumn launch with BTC betting.

I'm so stoked about this. About as no-KYC as you can get.

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What is the main issue with KYC ? Why is it so bad and frowned upon by people ? Can't it prevent misbehavior by users and be a positive thing in some of the cases ?

My guess is that its often a trust issue. Not everybody is keen on sending their personal information to strangers, especially unlicensed ones. If the platform is "trusted" and licensed, users would be less apprehensive about sending in their IDs. Crypto-currency gambling exploded with the promise of keeping their users anonymous. but that is no longer the case, some of them use KYC as an excuse to keep deposits. Nitrogen has been the best non-kyc book so far,with fair odds. coinbet24.com has been great in that regard, but their odds are horrible.

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BookiePro is a product I am very keen on. It's a betting exchange (the pro choice , x10 better than sportsbook)

Right now they just launched beta - play money but 5 BTC (!!!) in FIFA World Cup 2018 giveaways.

Zero KYC (now or for full launch) - no email, no NOTHING. 20 second sign-up
You have to download an app (cos the back-end is fully decentralized).

5 BTC giveaway thread is here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bookieprofundecentralized-sports-betting2018-nfl-competitionwin-btc-4434686

Seriously, this product is like NOTHING ELSE in sports betting. Can't wait for full autumn launch with BTC betting.

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Quote from: throwawayaccount2293823 on May 20, 2018, 09:54:57 PM

What is the main issue with KYC ? Why is it so bad and frowned upon by people ? Can't it prevent misbehavior by users and be a positive thing in some of the cases ?

We're talking about Bitcoin sportsbooks here. Promoting the use of Bitcoin and then requiring KYC are ideologically at odds with each other. There are other ways of preventing fraud without compromising personal data and privacy.

Dig deeper and you understand that a lot of the frustration with KYC actually stems from those that request KYC only when customers want withdrawals. In most cases, the requirement is not apparent, not imposed at deposits, and in fact not rightly theirs to ask, when they're not actually regulated.

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What is the main issue with KYC ? Why is it so bad and frowned upon by people ? Can't it prevent misbehavior by users and be a positive thing in some of the cases ?

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try betking.io they just released sports betting as far as i know.

You know good, they opened their sports book and they have some promotion, some free bets, I received a mail from them but I didn't check them out yet.
Nitrogen is the beat bitcoin sportsbook, you don't need kyc, you don't even need a mail if you don't wish to give them, you can make "satoshi" account and you will protect your privacy if that's the goal.
Nitrogen have a lot of sports in their sportsbook, nice odds, nitrogen also have promotions from time to time, if you subscribe you will receive offers from them on your mail. Good luck with betting on sports, for couple days world cup starts and it will be interesting.

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Please check wbet7.com, and our announcement thread here https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/wbet7com-sport-bet-accept-eth-etc-btc-bch-doge-ltc-dash-vtc-pm-2607019

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Pure Bitcoin Sportsbooks in general don't have KYC.

The use of “pure” bitcoin sportsbooks is on the rise. A pure bitcoin sportsbook is one that does not have a fiat currency symbol on the site at all. Your funds are always in bitcoin and the bets are all taken in bitcoin. For example at the offshore sportsbook you would bet 100$ on Mc Gregor to win but at the pure bitcoin sportsbook you would bet 0.04 BTC on Mc Gregor to win.

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Quote from: Flagship11 on May 21, 2018, 07:00:48 PM

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Betcoin is a publicly proven scam!

mBitcasino is operated by criminal SoftSwiss and is on the Curacao licensing scam casinos list !

So my recommendation is Crypto gambling with consumer protection service inclusive

No one cares what you think buddy.

Please publicise the poll?

Quote from: Flagship11 on May 21, 2018, 07:00:48 PM

If anything, you are only tarnishing the reputations of the sportsbooks you mention.

How do I tarnish the reputations?

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Quote from: Avantu on May 21, 2018, 02:33:13 AM

I have seen bitcoinrush, it seems ok but esports offer is mediocre at best and minimal withdrawal is 0.01BTC which is pretty high for me.

Hey Avantu, I know Nitrogen has a good selection of eSports. Might want to check them out.

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Betcoin is a publicly proven scam!

mBitcasino is operated by criminal SoftSwiss and is on the Curacao licensing scam casinos list !

So my recommendation is BetKing with currently lowest odds.

And BitcoinRush also has anonymous accounts.

No one cares what you think buddy.
If anything, you are only tarnishing the reputations of the sportsbooks you mention.

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Quote from: buwaytress on May 21, 2018, 02:15:14 AM

With SyGambler on one of the oldest bitcoin Sportsbook is Bitcoinrush.io. No KYC ever asked across any of their games, in fact, even an email isn't required, just user and pass is the bare minimum you need there.

The options may not always be as extensive as fiat sportsbooks, but I anyway am quite picky with props. And they still have a lot of improvement to complete, but their recent relaunch has resulted in the best offerings in terms of odds. Always at least 1% better than NitrogenSports, or any other sportsbook I've seen, for that matter. Be happy to be proven wrong as I'm always on the hunt for great sportsbook odds!

Thanks for the positive feedback; good that https://www.BitcoinRush.io is getting its 'due' in this forum lately.

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I have seen bitcoinrush, it seems ok but esports offer is mediocre at best and minimal withdrawal is 0.01BTC which is pretty high for me.

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Join the world-leading crypto sportsbook NOW!

With SyGambler on one of the oldest bitcoin Sportsbook is Bitcoinrush.io. No KYC ever asked across any of their games, in fact, even an email isn't required, just user and pass is the bare minimum you need there.

The options may not always be as extensive as fiat sportsbooks, but I anyway am quite picky with props. And they still have a lot of improvement to complete, but their recent relaunch has resulted in the best offerings in terms of odds. Always at least 1% better than NitrogenSports, or any other sportsbook I've seen, for that matter. Be happy to be proven wrong as I'm always on the hunt for great sportsbook odds!

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Both this sites doesnt offer esports...

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