Are there any chess sites that allow people to bet with Bitcoin?

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Quote from: hasmukhh on May 21, 2015, 04:00:02 AM

most of the people who use bitcoin are gamblers. not to be taken in a wrong sense , people who are good at gambling earn more than the rest of the people. gambling can make you rich as well as poor. once the money is lost it wont come back again. you have to earn well inorder to gamble.there are many sites which offer different type of games .one could play a dozen of games and earn bitcoins.

The one who always win is casino. Gambling should be only fun and everyone should gamble only with money that can lose without effort..

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Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on May 20, 2015, 03:53:52 PM

I hate chess, bores the hell out of me but I like to try & help where I can, put ideas forward etc.
If you find like minded bitcoiners who want to play chess for money can't you use a respected/trustworthy user to act as an escrow for you?
Play the chess game with your opponent & then inform the escrow who won (even better if the escrow is able to watch the game) & they can then send the funds to the winner?

It is no about escrow it is about programs analyzing moves and cheating in this way..

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most of the people who use bitcoin are gamblers. not to be taken in a wrong sense , people who are good at gambling earn more than the rest of the people. gambling can make you rich as well as poor. once the money is lost it wont come back again. you have to earn well inorder to gamble.there are many sites which offer different type of games .one could play a dozen of games and earn bitcoins.

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The thing is you don't even need a "full on bot". There are many free services that will give you moves and probabilities.

I wish people wouldn't cheat so this could be a thing. Undecided

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Quote from: thebenjamincode on May 21, 2015, 02:27:50 AM

don't loose hope because i believe that even though there are bots to cheat the game, humans are still better than bots
look at this, a person who beaten a computer in chess http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_Blue_versus_Garry_Kasparov

IBM supercomputer called Deep Blue
Result: Kasparov–Deep Blue (4–2)

He actually got beaten afterwards playing a game considered his quickest defeat ever and that was long ago, right now no human has any chances against better chess engines, you can play vs a computer yourself, its called computer impossible.

Its a shame that this wont happen but there could be other chess modes to prevent bots, i dont believe there are bots for all the chess different variations

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don't loose hope because i believe that even though there are bots to cheat the game, humans are still better than bots
look at this, a person who beaten a computer in chess http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_Blue_versus_Garry_Kasparov

IBM supercomputer called Deep Blue
Result: Kasparov–Deep Blue (4–2)

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Quote from: iram91445 on May 20, 2015, 04:11:20 PM

Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on May 20, 2015, 03:53:52 PM

I hate chess, bores the hell out of me but I like to try & help where I can, put ideas forward etc.
If you find like minded bitcoiners who want to play chess for money can't you use a respected/trustworthy user to act as an escrow for you?
Play the chess game with your opponent & then inform the escrow who won (even better if the escrow is able to watch the game) & they can then send the funds to the winner?

chess is one of the best games ever, also doing escrow would take way too much time and there would fees so its not useful i think

Fees could be pretty small, like 0.005 BTC or so, and that would still make it worth doing if the wager is 0.1+.

It's just such a small niche, I seriously doubt there will be any big sites taking it on or attempting to build a better way to handle it.

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Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on May 20, 2015, 03:53:52 PM

I hate chess, bores the hell out of me but I like to try & help where I can, put ideas forward etc.
If you find like minded bitcoiners who want to play chess for money can't you use a respected/trustworthy user to act as an escrow for you?
Play the chess game with your opponent & then inform the escrow who won (even better if the escrow is able to watch the game) & they can then send the funds to the winner?

chess is one of the best games ever, also doing escrow would take way too much time and there would fees so its not useful i think

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I hate chess, bores the hell out of me but I like to try & help where I can, put ideas forward etc.
If you find like minded bitcoiners who want to play chess for money can't you use a respected/trustworthy user to act as an escrow for you?
Play the chess game with your opponent & then inform the escrow who won (even better if the escrow is able to watch the game) & they can then send the funds to the winner?

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cant people just use computers to win against players and solve the captchas themselves? i think it would be impossible to win

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I think there aren't any chess sites & there won't be any sites which provide chess games because there are many smart chess bots out there Roll Eyes

If you have time, try search it on google & you'll find many chess bots

This is what I thought. I can't see any site willing to take wagers on chess because even regular chess sites can just be cheated with bots and this will just happen when money is on the line. It's a shame but that's just part of the real world.

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it would be annoying if got captcha every few turn

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Yea I guess cheating would probably be an issue. I don't think it will ever be possible to completely eradicate cheating, I mean even if somehow you could detect engine moves or chess programs installed on the player's computer, the guy could just have one of his grandmaster friend play the game for him. However one way of reducing cheating would be through pattern recognition - require that all new people play a large number of games, say 100, before they get a rating. You'd then have to have a specialized software analyze and keep track of every game they play to see if moves they make during tournament play are out of character or not. This of course will not prevent people from cheating but should make it a little easier to spot cheaters.
To help fight bots, some of the paid chess sites require people to download and install their chess software (which contains tech that can detect programs installed/running on the player's computer) instead of playing from the web.

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Quote from: sandy47bt on May 20, 2015, 10:34:34 AM

Quote from: sherbyspark on May 20, 2015, 10:30:14 AM

Quote from: kotwica666 on May 20, 2015, 10:24:32 AM

Nobody likes to play chess in Internet, and even more so with money, because there is a lot of bots. Sorry, but it's very discouraging.

Actually there are ways which people can use to avoid Bots in play. Captchas are one way that might be done after every few turns, but it does get really annoying then.

Smart bots can break through few captcha Roll Eyes

Even bots can't do it, it's very annoying especially if the round more than an hour

It doesnt matter if a bot can break through captchas or not, you could just use your phone and use a program to analize your moves and your opponent moves and there would be absolutly no way to stop that, only as said down there an engine that analizes both players moves and can more or less catch someone using a bot

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Quote from: sandy47bt on May 20, 2015, 10:34:34 AM

Smart bots can break through few captcha Roll Eyes

Are you talking also about ReCaptcha? I've heard that it is very difficult for bots .. Even that bots can't pass through ReCaptcha .. Roll Eyes

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Quote from: sherbyspark on May 20, 2015, 10:30:14 AM

Quote from: kotwica666 on May 20, 2015, 10:24:32 AM

Nobody likes to play chess in Internet, and even more so with money, because there is a lot of bots. Sorry, but it's very discouraging.

Actually there are ways which people can use to avoid Bots in play. Captchas are one way that might be done after every few turns, but it does get really annoying then.

Usually, chess engines analyze a player's moves and can flag suspected bots.
But in the end, there is no sure way of checking if a person is cheating or not.

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Quote from: sherbyspark on May 20, 2015, 10:30:14 AM

Quote from: kotwica666 on May 20, 2015, 10:24:32 AM

Nobody likes to play chess in Internet, and even more so with money, because there is a lot of bots. Sorry, but it's very discouraging.

Actually there are ways which people can use to avoid Bots in play. Captchas are one way that might be done after every few turns, but it does get really annoying then.

Smart bots can break through few captcha Roll Eyes

Even bots can't do it, it's very annoying especially if the round more than an hour

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Quote from: kotwica666 on May 20, 2015, 10:24:32 AM

Nobody likes to play chess in Internet, and even more so with money, because there is a lot of bots. Sorry, but it's very discouraging.

Actually there are ways which people can use to avoid Bots in play. Captchas are one way that might be done after every few turns, but it does get really annoying then.

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Nobody likes to play chess in Internet, and even more so with money, because there is a lot of bots. Sorry, but it's very discouraging.

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Well it could be done in a way to avoid some bots, make all the games be 2 min long max, 1 minute per player, i dont think there are many bots that can calculate fast enough in 1 minute to beat a human, there could also be like other chess modes, like the horde mode where white has only pawns and black has normal pieces.

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