Are there any successful and relatively new casinos? - page 7.

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Quote from: jademaxsuy on July 09, 2020, 07:25:13 AM

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Bonus, it is a program that gambling site owners must consider to attract the attention of gamblers. Deposit bonuses, welcome bonuses and also a number of other bonuses such as loyalty are what gamblers expect. I think some gambling sites that do promotion also do the same thing related to giving bonuses to players. Examples are FJ, Roobet, Wolf.bet and others.

The success of a site will depend on the activity and the players trust in the site. If the player feel comfortable, safe and doesnt feel disadvantaged for various reasons such as fairness then I think the number of site visit will increase gradually. Many gamblers want gambling sites not to implement KYC because they want to continue playing anonymously. This will also be the reason why the number of players and site revenue is difficult to increase (new sites).

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Quote from: TrevorS on July 09, 2020, 02:27:00 PM

The lack of promotions primarily indicates that the project is saving money.
Then the question arises whether the project will be able to pay rewards bonuses, and what happens if they don’t have enough volumes for payments on deposits.
Given that crypto casinos are not regulated, it is not difficult to imagine the classic situation when the conclusions are closed for an indefinite period, and various checks are introduced.

Each marketing step would really have lots of consideration first before on making it happen.They wont really just throw away up some promotion if they do know that they are attaining sufficient revenue.

Its just suicide for them to do so on launching out something that they arent capable to do so thats why we do see that new sites arent really that much active when it comes to bonuses and perks

I don't think this is how most small businesses operate in general

Especially when we are talking about startups. Put simply, it does in fact border on financial suicide in many cases, but the point is you don't know that for certain in advance. Moreover, you can't even know that beforehand at all. But seriously, how do you picture that in your mind's eye? I refer to "having lots of consideration first before on making it happen". What considerations do you think of? What is there to consider if most of the factors that you should base your considerations on are unknown to you and can only be learned in the process, i.e. any valid considerations can only be made in hindsight when they are already less than useless for the business in question?

All right. Most startups do not know exactly which paths will be most effective and will give the greatest result. You can find out only by doing something, checking one of the ways.
Therefore, it is always a double-edged sword, on the one hand decisions that are moderately risky, and on the other, a limited budget. Nevertheless, you have to make a choice, and often too careful steps lead to the death of the project.

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Quote from: minairia3 on July 09, 2020, 08:07:39 AM

I think yes and it will depend on the competitive package of that casino. Im not sure if roobet just release this year or maybe the year before that but they are definitely a new platform compared to other, we can see how users attracted to this casino because they always launching a very good promotional bonuses on their platform and even here on forum. If all casino can do that they can stay longer in the business.

Other casinos problem are lack of reputation or simply involved on some issues they are not accounted for ending up losing players on their platform.

It really becomes an essential part of new running businesses to maximize the use of marketing strategy and promotions because that's what they need to attract customers. Promotional bonuses can also be their investment if they really want to gain attention or get recognized by gamblers.

New casinos may find it hard to build a reputation and gain enough attention, but if they would really work hard and try their best, they can have an opportunity to do well in the market just like with other old and trusted casinos.

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Quote from: Timelord2067 on July 10, 2020, 05:17:19 AM

The only online Casinos that I get to hear about are quite literally the ones that have or have had signature campaigns. As to whether or not they are any good, the fact that they can continue to pay for Campaigns should in itself be an indicator of the Casino's success - unless of course they had a pre-launch budget they are committed to with a Campaign Manager/Escrow who is holding the funds for them, no matter what.

(I'm surprised you didn't give your own Signature a plug while you were at it)

I’m also depending on a signature campaign when it comes to new casinos because they always do it and most of them succeed on their first phase and some of them continue to grow up to this day. New casinos can compete with the old one, gamblers what to try something new and honestly, I love how the new gambling site compete with the others and they are really offering a great rewards and bounties when you play with them so I think that’s also a good marketing strategy.

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Quote from: Lanatsa on July 09, 2020, 04:08:02 PM

Quote from: TrevorS on July 09, 2020, 02:27:00 PM

The lack of promotions primarily indicates that the project is saving money.
Then the question arises whether the project will be able to pay rewards bonuses, and what happens if they don’t have enough volumes for payments on deposits.
Given that crypto casinos are not regulated, it is not difficult to imagine the classic situation when the conclusions are closed for an indefinite period, and various checks are introduced.

Each marketing step would really have lots of consideration first before on making it happen.They wont really just throw away up some promotion if they do know that they are attaining sufficient revenue.

Its just suicide for them to do so on launching out something that they arent capable to do so thats why we do see that new sites arent really that much active when it comes to bonuses and perks

I don't think this is how most small businesses operate in general

Especially when we are talking about startups. Put simply, it does in fact border on financial suicide in many cases, but the point is you don't know that for certain in advance. Moreover, you can't even know that beforehand at all. But seriously, how do you picture that in your mind's eye? I refer to "having lots of consideration first before on making it happen". What considerations do you think of? What is there to consider if most of the factors that you should base your considerations on are unknown to you and can only be learned in the process, i.e. any valid considerations can only be made in hindsight when they are already less than useless for the business in question?

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The only online Casinos that I get to hear about are quite literally the ones that have or have had signature campaigns. As to whether or not they are any good, the fact that they can continue to pay for Campaigns should in itself be an indicator of the Casino's success - unless of course they had a pre-launch budget they are committed to with a Campaign Manager/Escrow who is holding the funds for them, no matter what.

(I'm surprised you didn't give your own Signature a plug while you were at it)

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Quote from: kryptqnick on July 04, 2020, 11:41:35 AM

I've been on this forum long enough to see perhaps hundreds of casinos come and go. They keep appearing and dying shortly afterward all the time, and I wonder why people still take such a high risk of opening a casino when there is a close to 100% chance your casino will fail. This got me thinking about popular casinos. Of course, we all know the names. But they are usually years old, not anything from 2019-2020. The one exception is Stake.com, but I wouldn't count it as an example of a new casino appearing out of nowhere and attracting gamblers because it did not come out of nowhere (it's owned by Primedice). Is it just me or are there virtually no recent casinos that got popular? Or can you name some examples? And in general, do you think new casinos appearing in 2020 stand a chance against those with solid reputation and long time on the market?

Answer lies in your question. Stake is a new casino, you can't deny this fact but at the same time you mention that it's not new because there is primedice team behind it, so, primedice is the key here. Well established, experienced team launched new casino stake that achieved great success because of good management and proper strategies that includes marketing and everything.
New casinos fail because most of them don't have necessary budget to handle developers, marketing and winning costs, some of them want to run casino just by buying some scripts online, ie trolls. Serious people will never fail in this business. See the success of casinos like Bitsler, FJ, cryptogames, yolodice and similar ones, their success is not a secret and there isn't any secret formula except good capital and hard work for more creativity and progress.
Also newer and probably another successful crypto gambling website can become wolfbet. So, not everything fails.

It's never too late to run any business and achieve success. Not only business but humanity is using gold and paper money for centuries but Bitcoin achieved huge success in a very short time frame and you may know how it all started, without massive ads and etc run by satoshi.

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Quote from: TrevorS on July 09, 2020, 02:27:00 PM

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I think it is difficult if they do not do promotions because the old sites that have a good reputation still exist today, and thus of course for them or a relatively new gambling site will definitely be difficult to compete, but it all depends on how big and high their consistency to build and grow their reputation, because even if they do promotions but they are not consistent then in the end their project will die too and at least many things like that have happened.

The lack of promotions primarily indicates that the project is saving money.
Then the question arises whether the project will be able to pay rewards bonuses, and what happens if they don’t have enough volumes for payments on deposits.
Given that crypto casinos are not regulated, it is not difficult to imagine the classic situation when the conclusions are closed for an indefinite period, and various checks are introduced.

Each marketing step would really have lots of consideration first before on making it happen.They wont really just throw away up some promotion if they do know that they are attaining sufficient revenue.

Its just suicide for them to do so on launching out something that they arent capable to do so thats why we do see that new sites arent really that much active when it comes to bonuses and perks

specially to those who are just starting up on exact not so big capital.

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I think it is difficult if they do not do promotions because the old sites that have a good reputation still exist today, and thus of course for them or a relatively new gambling site will definitely be difficult to compete, but it all depends on how big and high their consistency to build and grow their reputation, because even if they do promotions but they are not consistent then in the end their project will die too and at least many things like that have happened.

The lack of promotions primarily indicates that the project is saving money.
Then the question arises whether the project will be able to pay rewards bonuses, and what happens if they don’t have enough volumes for payments on deposits.
Given that crypto casinos are not regulated, it is not difficult to imagine the classic situation when the conclusions are closed for an indefinite period, and various checks are introduced.

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Quote from: minairia3 on July 09, 2020, 08:07:39 AM

I think yes and it will depend on the competitive package of that casino. Im not sure if roobet just release this year or maybe the year before that but they are definitely a new platform compared to other, we can see how users attracted to this casino because they always launching a very good promotional bonuses on their platform and even here on forum. If all casino can do that they can stay longer in the business.

Other casinos problem are lack of reputation or simply involved on some issues they are not accounted for ending up losing players on their platform.

Definitely you are right. New casino should take advantage foe now due to pandemic and by this getting reputation from the users will be an advantage. It would be good also to get ratings from them and to get also their comments and suggestion to get the idea on how to serve them better.

Aside from that, ads also is very effective in promoting new casino. I had seen few online casino had been into promotion and giving good bonuses are now stable and establish with more users in their platform.

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Quote from: minairia3 on July 09, 2020, 08:07:39 AM

I think yes and it will depend on the competitive package of that casino. Im not sure if roobet just release this year or maybe the year before that but they are definitely a new platform compared to other,

Well Roobet seems to be start Business back in 2018 so Basically you are correct that they are one of the newest but they are the most popular now,running multiple event to Lure players is what they are doing now.

Quote from: minairia3 on July 09, 2020, 08:07:39 AM

we can see how users attracted to this casino because they always launching a very good promotional bonuses on their platform and even here on forum. If all casino can do that they can stay longer in the business.

Absolutely,Roober runs their Business very generously ,I remember that Once Yahoo made so complaints about this casino but eventually they come to an agreement .

Quote from: minairia3 on July 09, 2020, 08:07:39 AM

Other casinos problem are lack of reputation or simply involved on some issues they are not accounted for ending up losing players on their platform.

If you don't work carefully for your reputation then your company will end like a shit in this Community and even outside because gamblers are very particular on this.

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I think yes and it will depend on the competitive package of that casino. Im not sure if roobet just release this year or maybe the year before that but they are definitely a new platform compared to other, we can see how users attracted to this casino because they always launching a very good promotional bonuses on their platform and even here on forum. If all casino can do that they can stay longer in the business.

Other casinos problem are lack of reputation or simply involved on some issues they are not accounted for ending up losing players on their platform.

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Quote from: skarais on July 09, 2020, 06:48:26 AM

It is possible that the new casino will get gambler enthusiasm if they really look ideal for the needs of players. The more attractive a site is, the better it is to enjoy. KYC will also be considered by gambler and it is not uncommon for people to avoid this type of casino.

For me it would be easier to be successful if a gambling site like online casino will do giveaways and bonuses. This is what had been always done from the promising online casino to attract potential gamblers and to reach target number of gamers everyday.

Spending also for advertisement would be ideal to keep the integrity of the new casino. And then over a period of time may it be in the long run or short period of time to reach the ROI will definitely will going to happen.

Patience is just needed in every investment. Good maanagement will also make the new casino to be recognized as a strong establish online casino.

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Quote from: LogitechMouse on July 08, 2020, 07:33:54 PM

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Of course everything requires a process. Competition between casinos will also help them to grow better. Many new sites have to back down from competition because they lost to previous competitors and everything they did was in vain. Promotion is one of the efforts to get a lot of visitors to the site, and this promotion will be useful if the site can provide comfort, security, and attractiveness to the players.

It is possible that the new casino will get gambler enthusiasm if they really look ideal for the needs of players. The more attractive a site is, the better it is to enjoy. KYC will also be considered by gambler and it is not uncommon for people to avoid this type of casino.

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Quote from: adamistraybar on July 08, 2020, 02:25:48 PM

betearn is pretty knew and i think there pretty good and growing at a nice rate. There provable fair system is a little suspect but seems fine in genral

Can you please clarify what casino are you talking about specifically because after googling the name you gave I was able to find that some bet earn was actually a scam and they were busted as you can read here - http://tradinghorizon.com/tag/betearn-scam/

If you miss-typed the casino name I would request you to please give us the correct name since I cannot even find a thread at bitcointalk with any similar names. In my opinion there are very few casinos that are created in recent past and have been successful. Last casino I remember I used to play which was new was dicebitco.in and they ran away with their dirty scam and since then I stopped betting on new ones.

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Lets take note that building new casinos is a business and we know the risks of building a new business already.
Competitors, Reputation, Money, Traffic (customer satisfaction), Location, etc. These are the things that you may want to see before building a casino.

Also take note that building a business in general takes time to be a successful one. New casinos will not be successful in weeks or months. It will take years for it to be a successful one. Those new casinos knew that they are up against the old casinos that is why they are building a trademark (something like a feature in their site that can only be seen on their site).

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Quote from: kryptqnick on July 04, 2020, 11:41:35 AM

And in general, do you think new casinos appearing in 2020 stand a chance against those with solid reputation and long time on the market?

Yes. That's the challenge.

With good promotion and features, surely they can attract users on their site. It's a matter of hard work and effort. Just because there are reputable around doesn't mean they don't stand a chance. Gamblers also want a different taste and if somehow that new site able to think of the best features that should be implemented, chances are there that they will catch the attention of the gamblers.

I admire those casinos that joined the wave even there are now big and reputable casinos.

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betearn is pretty knew and i think there pretty good and growing at a nice rate. There provable fair system is a little suspect but seems fine in genral

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Quote from: BitcoinTurk on July 08, 2020, 12:56:09 PM

We can see that most of the new services started recently have been successful. The main reason for this is not the quality of the services, but the high demand for the gambling games due to the process we are in. Of course, it is difficult to predict this, but if you want to comment for the last period, it is possible to say that a few casino services have achieved great success after they started operating.

I agree with this, This season is sure the season of an online casino because of our current situation. The physical casinos are going close or they are just accepting a limited number of players in their facility and some players just want to stay away from crowded places and just want's to play into an online casino that's why the demand of online casino today is on its peak. But I think the quality of the casino is still needed because there are too many options there and the quality of the casino can make the online casino go successful or closed in this opportunity.

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As far as I've seen, most new casinos end up growing to a modest size, and then they stagnate around that size.

A few of them try to advertise here on the forum for a few weeks (seemingly thinking Bitcointalk is the only place to advertise), and then they stop their campaign and remain a small size.

I think the issue is most of these places simply think that a good game or two is enough to build a player base. While this is true in some rare cases, most of these also lack a proper marketing team or budget.

What good is having a great game, if you don't have the resources needed to tell people about it?

This is why the most popular casinos today spend a good fraction of their income on marketing, since they know that's what it takes to both acquire new players, retrieve old ones, and maintain current players.

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