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January 02, 2024, 03:26:23 AM
That's one of my top list that I set for myself, I will never gamble with the money I owed to others or I won't gamble until I have extra money because I have seen or met many different people who experienced bad things in life because they were made to gamble using other people's money. for me, it is one of the things that should not be done to avoid the destruction of life, being in debt is a big damage especially if you don't have the ability to pay after gambling that's why I don't think play and pay later casino will be a norm in gambling world as we know that there's no guarantee of winning in doing gambling.

That's a very thoughtful approach towards gambling. Your commitment to not gambling with money owed to others and having extra funds before participating is commendable. Can you share more about the experiences you've witnessed that led you to make such a decision, and how do you think this mindset can contribute to a responsible gambling culture?
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January 02, 2024, 02:21:08 AM
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Yes, a gambler will be engrossed in his own world without paying attention to what is happening around him. Maybe he also wouldn't know anything about his surroundings because he was more focused on what he was doing. But they may have also taken out loans and borrowed money to gamble, so that's what makes them focus on gambling. If they take out a loan, they will try to make money from gambling and focus on winning more so they can repay the loan as soon as possible. Yes, the results of gambling cannot be predicted and we can only keep trying to gamble, but this must be done with limits so that we don't experience serious problems later. Many people have lost self-control and boundaries while gambling so they only experience serious problems and are confused about how to solve them.
Borrowing money to gamble is not recommended and anyone who gambles with borrowed money will have series of real problems before them.
They borrow money and have to pay it back, of course they will also try to make win for certain amount of profit that can be used to pay the loan, but they forget that the sure guarantee in gambling is not victory but defeat.
When they lose and have to pay back loan, all they do is borrow again from other people to cover the previous loan and this will continue to happen until they are really in debt and unable to pay it.
Apart from that, he has also become gambling addict because the excessive activity he does in gambling has become habit that cannot be left behind.
Isn't this very worrying because more and more people are experiencing problems from gambling and they will always have problems that never stop.

That's one of my top list that I set for myself, I will never gamble with the money I owed to others or I won't gamble until I have extra money because I have seen or met many different people who experienced bad things in life because they were made to gamble using other people's money. for me, it is one of the things that should not be done to avoid the destruction of life, being in debt is a big damage especially if you don't have the ability to pay after gambling that's why I don't think play and pay later casino will be a norm in gambling world as we know that there's no guarantee of winning in doing gambling.
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January 02, 2024, 12:57:06 AM
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Yes, a gambler will be engrossed in his own world without paying attention to what is happening around him. Maybe he also wouldn't know anything about his surroundings because he was more focused on what he was doing. But they may have also taken out loans and borrowed money to gamble, so that's what makes them focus on gambling. If they take out a loan, they will try to make money from gambling and focus on winning more so they can repay the loan as soon as possible. Yes, the results of gambling cannot be predicted and we can only keep trying to gamble, but this must be done with limits so that we don't experience serious problems later. Many people have lost self-control and boundaries while gambling so they only experience serious problems and are confused about how to solve them.
Borrowing money to gamble is not recommended and anyone who gambles with borrowed money will have series of real problems before them.
They borrow money and have to pay it back, of course they will also try to make win for certain amount of profit that can be used to pay the loan, but they forget that the sure guarantee in gambling is not victory but defeat.
When they lose and have to pay back loan, all they do is borrow again from other people to cover the previous loan and this will continue to happen until they are really in debt and unable to pay it.
Apart from that, he has also become gambling addict because the excessive activity he does in gambling has become habit that cannot be left behind.
Isn't this very worrying because more and more people are experiencing problems from gambling and they will always have problems that never stop.
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January 01, 2024, 11:03:30 PM
Taking credit to back is never an acceptable response to gambling; a gambler will become engrossed in his own world. One tends to become more frustrated when things don't turn out as expected, and at that time, a lot of thoughts swirl it in his head; he needs time to relax, else he will make some drastic actions that he will come to regret later. Taking out loans and borrowing money to gamble is never an excellent concept since things always go wrong along the route. We all know how gaming proceeds are unpredictable, despite our strong technique, and losses are documented.
Yes, a gambler will be engrossed in his own world without paying attention to what is happening around him. Maybe he also wouldn't know anything about his surroundings because he was more focused on what he was doing. But they may have also taken out loans and borrowed money to gamble, so that's what makes them focus on gambling. If they take out a loan, they will try to make money from gambling and focus on winning more so they can repay the loan as soon as possible. Yes, the results of gambling cannot be predicted and we can only keep trying to gamble, but this must be done with limits so that we don't experience serious problems later. Many people have lost self-control and boundaries while gambling so they only experience serious problems and are confused about how to solve them.
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December 31, 2023, 06:45:00 AM
So is gambling debt one way or other possible without the person taking loan or borrowing money?
What??? I am just seeing this for the first time and I must say that it is surprising. Well, Paylater is not a new thing in business and the loaning world, it only seems you are just rebranding it here to make it look different. But the actual truth is that you still collected a loan for gambling. I see this as a further means of business for casinos if they can make it possible but the risk is high. The person must submit viable collateral for them to make it possible. One difficulty they will face is that many of their customers might be offshore, so evaluating and validating the collateral is an issue that can't be cost-effective. Still, within their domain, they might make it possible if they so desire, but it will be an extra stress and risk for them. However, instead of going through this, you can apply for a loan through other means and use it to bet if so desired. Irrespective of the context, my advice to every gambler is that they should never gamble with the money they can't afford to lose.

Frankly, borrowing money to gamble is insane, stay off it.
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December 31, 2023, 05:37:38 AM
To play in any casino you have to come with your money or asset, or are there any casinos that allow play and pay later?
No, isn't that a visible risk without having to implement it first? One of them only makes the business stop growing because the casino is hampered from increasing its bankroll.
Unless the casino works with a funding partner, that can happen. But again, it's too risky to agree. Gamblers can bet more than they can afford if they have a previous plan to escape debt.
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December 31, 2023, 05:34:10 AM
I think this is very unique. If there is, it will probably be the first platform to have this unique feature in a casino, it will definitely have a lot of fans. The problem is that it will definitely be complicated to set it up. What if it doesn't pay the debt? and what is the guarantee? If you have to hire a debt collector again to take care of the debt, it will be complicated. It would be better if you didn't have this feature. this is my point of view if I were a casino owner. In fact, there is no such competition yet on casino gambling platforms. but as a player I think this feature is very interesting if it exists.
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December 31, 2023, 05:23:19 AM
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July 16, 2023, 03:07:36 PM

They are in most cases being too overconfidenced in gambling that they will certainly win, forgetting that gambling is all about taking a risk on winning or loosing whereby the chances of loosing is higher than that of winning if we are to be frank about it, s for the greedy ones who also thinks they cwn be smart enough to use casinos money to gamble and later run away if they don't win, I wonder how many gamblers the casinoe will be chasing after for repayment of gambling loan, lol.
it is foolish for gamblers to have thoughts or do things like that when they are too confident to bet thinking they will win and take the risk of betting pay later or debt to the casino and when they lose the gambler runs away to refuse to pay the loan. actions like this are very inappropriate to emulate because the casino has the power or has the power to find where they go and greedy gamblers like this can be used by physical casinos to encourage gamblers to always bet and are offered a certain amount of money, in other words the casino lends money and must be repaid when win.
unknowingly it was a big deal he had to get while accepting such an offer was like killing himself.

A casino can do many things to have many clients, among them they can generate money with different programs, among them some programs to offer money in the form of loans can be highlighted, but I think that this is something very risky, it is a very reckless, personally I would never choose to have a loan and spend it playing, it is more I think not even to trade, but of course things can be seen in different ways here, if a player is very addicted and requests a loan I think it is something more delicate, you must have the ability to pay, otherwise you should not take it.

I don't think I have seen an online casino in the forum that has that option, but as I say, it is something very reckless, it is not worth taking because it is autolosing in a very ugly way.

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July 02, 2023, 05:28:17 PM

They are in most cases being too overconfidenced in gambling that they will certainly win, forgetting that gambling is all about taking a risk on winning or loosing whereby the chances of loosing is higher than that of winning if we are to be frank about it, s for the greedy ones who also thinks they cwn be smart enough to use casinos money to gamble and later run away if they don't win, I wonder how many gamblers the casinoe will be chasing after for repayment of gambling loan, lol.
it is foolish for gamblers to have thoughts or do things like that when they are too confident to bet thinking they will win and take the risk of betting pay later or debt to the casino and when they lose the gambler runs away to refuse to pay the loan. actions like this are very inappropriate to emulate because the casino has the power or has the power to find where they go and greedy gamblers like this can be used by physical casinos to encourage gamblers to always bet and are offered a certain amount of money, in other words the casino lends money and must be repaid when win.
unknowingly it was a big deal he had to get while accepting such an offer was like killing himself.
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July 02, 2023, 04:50:45 PM
No casino would survive with that kind of system. While they may attract a lot of borrowers, the question remains: can they ensure that they will receive the payment? We are discussing online casinos, where most of us gamble anonymously, so the risk for the operator is very high.

I am aware that some land-based casinos have lenders, but they would not easily lend money without collateral. This collateral serves as assurance since its value is higher than the loan, and the interest rates are typically high. These lenders are often referred to as loan sharks.
Just like in our small store business before. We also allow people to shop for goods and they can pay it later on. Some pays longer like after two weeks while some pays after a month. The outcome is not great and our business fails later on. We have no choice but to have that kind of system because our business location is not good enough.

It wasn't placed in a really crowded area but it was only placed in our own backyard where the customers are mostly the people that we already know the most. The same thing could happen to a casino if they implement such scheme. An active flow of money is important because we will also use it to maintain our service.

This is the consequence of letting someone borrow from your business. In my opinion, small business such as this don't have to add this feature because given that you only have a backyard store, you have a limited capital and source of fund. With that being said, the profit of your small business is what you use to buy products again to make the income flow continuous. Hence, you can't really afford to let your goods be borrowed to be paid later since the money will be stagnant, there will be no profit on your end for a specific time frame. Additionally, you don't even know if they will pay you as soon as possible or if they will only pay if they remembered or want to, since there's no written agreement on this, I assume.

The same way with gambling casinos. They shouldn't really put credit or pay later features to deter those who don't really have money in the first place to gamble. If they don't have enough fund as spare, then do not play or bet. It's not about being greedy or putting up discrimination. Rather it is a form of concern and setting boundaries to keep your business operating and to keep them away from having so much debt they can't even afford to pay.
It deeply baffles me that many people knows very little about the consequences of becoming a habitual gambler which casinos aren't excluded.
It is better not to be involved in the gambling than to know about how it works if a young man truly wants to succeed  by every
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July 02, 2023, 03:00:10 PM
No casino would survive with that kind of system. While they may attract a lot of borrowers, the question remains: can they ensure that they will receive the payment? We are discussing online casinos, where most of us gamble anonymously, so the risk for the operator is very high.

I am aware that some land-based casinos have lenders, but they would not easily lend money without collateral. This collateral serves as assurance since its value is higher than the loan, and the interest rates are typically high. These lenders are often referred to as loan sharks.
Maybe a traditional ones can survive. Because they can make their house as collateral or even their cars or anything that will have a value or increasing value in the future but when it comes to online casino I doubt they will have that because as what you have said there is no assurance that it could be paid on time.
Here I agree with you that only land or traditional casinos can survive because they can receive several guarantees in case gamblers don't do things they don't want such as running away from responsibility.
So far I have never come across a casino online with such a service and I am sure that no online casino does because it is very risky.

I myself, as a gambler, have never wanted a service like that and don't want to exceed my limits by forcing a loan.

I am not capable of measuring myself to a loan, because in a casino game things can get out of control, it is very easy to lose and many things can be achieved, just as you can win, you can lose everything, and have a debt in a casino or even anywhere is not the idea, we should always be Responsible, if a casino offers a loan just to play, I really would not take it, I would feel very tempted, but if there is no ability to pay, I would not, these These are the things that we should always take into consideration, it can be very good and come out with a good profit, but if not? as it would be done , and sometimes it is better to avoid it.

Gambling when you hqve no money is not advisable, it's never a must to gamble when the conditions attached to gambling as at that moment we are interested aren't favourable enough for us to have an itch free gambling experience by not going into debts, I've seen some gamblers having nothing to fall back on die to the fact that they have spent all they have, borrow money as well to gamble and have accumulated enough debts through gambling and now they have to be running helter and scelter in finding a means of achieving peace of mind.
I don't see any reason why someone will believe that he can win the next bet that will lead him into borrowing money,when he doesn't have. Though,this might have worked for few gamblers but it is rare for you to see it. Greed of winning back their loss and not letting go of their loss. This is what will make a gambler borrow money to gamble. Gambling is fun when you do it the right way but when it is done the wrong way it can lead to frustration and depression. Only gamble when you have the money to do so and don't try to chase your loss due to greed. Don't be indebted to gambling.

They are in most cases being too overconfidenced in gambling that they will certainly win, forgetting that gambling is all about taking a risk on winning or loosing whereby the chances of loosing is higher than that of winning if we are to be frank about it, s for the greedy ones who also thinks they cwn be smart enough to use casinos money to gamble and later run away if they don't win, I wonder how many gamblers the casinoe will be chasing after for repayment of gambling loan, lol.
I think that under no circumstances can you play in a casino with borrowed money, if there is not enough money to play in a casino, the best and most responsible thing is not to play in a casino, because that money is much more committed to play , so it is not good to risk the capital that is not ours just having a hunch, it is very different to play with our money, because it is ours and it is not someone else's money, it is not subject to any stress that if it is lost, it must still be paid, the only stress that should exist in a person is with their own money.

HJay players who are risky, who do not mind lending to have the option of playing and winning, generally when playing under pressure, they do not play well, the bets are not correct and on many occasions things can go very wrong Because you play with fear and take care of money that little by little can go very quickly, it is not smart to bet with borrowed money and I do not recommend it.
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June 22, 2023, 04:39:26 AM
Gambling when you hqve no money is not advisable, it's never a must to gamble when the conditions attached to gambling as at that moment we are interested aren't favourable enough for us to have an itch free gambling experience by not going into debts, I've seen some gamblers having nothing to fall back on die to the fact that they have spent all they have, borrow money as well to gamble and have accumulated enough debts through gambling and now they have to be running helter and scelter in finding a means of achieving peace of mind.
I don't see any reason why someone will believe that he can win the next bet that will lead him into borrowing money,when he doesn't have. Though,this might have worked for few gamblers but it is rare for you to see it. Greed of winning back their loss and not letting go of their loss. This is what will make a gambler borrow money to gamble. Gambling is fun when you do it the right way but when it is done the wrong way it can lead to frustration and depression. Only gamble when you have the money to do so and don't try to chase your loss due to greed. Don't be indebted to gambling.

They are in most cases being too overconfidenced in gambling that they will certainly win, forgetting that gambling is all about taking a risk on winning or loosing whereby the chances of loosing is higher than that of winning if we are to be frank about it, s for the greedy ones who also thinks they cwn be smart enough to use casinos money to gamble and later run away if they don't win, I wonder how many gamblers the casinoe will be chasing after for repayment of gambling loan, lol.
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June 22, 2023, 03:54:07 AM
The habit of gamblers when they lose they feel confident that by playing again they will win and return the money they have lost, but the fact is that they still lose because they play with emotion and also play without a controlled strategy, that's why many gamblers are in debt because assets have been sold out and also money that has been used up so there is no other way but to owe.

I think gamblers who are in debt never live in peace because they are chased by debt and are also always in the shadows of the defeat they feel, that's why almost most gamblers who have a lot of debt always end up committing suicide because they don't pay their debts. even though gambling should be played with money, because without money you should never play gambling.
For those who like to chase previous losses, it is quite a big addiction to the emotions they have, even though it is very clear that if they have lost, then with subsequent wins there is no guarantee to win or restore previous losses, the fact is that all of us who have experienced this experience actually it will get worse because the bet continues to increase and in the end all the capital runs out so they make loans everywhere to play again.

Yeah, living with debt is full of peace, especially if they only spend it in gambling, that's too imposing when things are no longer possible, whoever never makes a loan just for the sake of gambling, unless it's for an urgent need other than gambling, then that won't be a problem.

Maybe we have heard the common words, "gamble happily" in the sense that if you have extra money then you can go to gambling.
Your post underscores the grim cycle of gambling addiction, a spiral where the drive to recover past losses incurs more debt. This is steered by the gambler's fallacy, which fosters a false sense of power over randomness. The concept of 'gambling happily' suggests a typically elusive fiscal comfort. The thrill of gambling often conceals its potential for substantial financial setback. The ambiguity of 'extra money' can also invite financial instability. Problem gambling's repercussions can be drastic, but it's a nuanced disorder with diverse triggers. To state all gamblers will face debt or resort to desperate acts would be an oversimplification.
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June 21, 2023, 09:49:51 PM
If one decided to borrow money to gamble, it would be a big mistake. Even though he believes he can win, it can't always come true because defeat is always next to victory and ready to take our money. Instead of later getting frustrated when you have to pay off the money owed after losing at gambling, it's better for you to play gambling with the money you have so that it will be safer even if he loses.

Casinos will not allow a person to play without money but casinos give permission to a person to play in demo or free mode. But it will not give pleasure because we do not feel the real loss or win.
Taking credit to back is never an acceptable response to gambling; a gambler will become engrossed in his own world. One tends to become more frustrated when things don't turn out as expected, and at that time, a lot of thoughts swirl it in his head; he needs time to relax, else he will make some drastic actions that he will come to regret later. Taking out loans and borrowing money to gamble is never an excellent concept since things always go wrong along the route. We all know how gaming proceeds are unpredictable, despite our strong technique, and losses are documented.
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June 21, 2023, 10:03:35 AM
Gambling when you hqve no money is not advisable, it's never a must to gamble when the conditions attached to gambling as at that moment we are interested aren't favourable enough for us to have an itch free gambling experience by not going into debts, I've seen some gamblers having nothing to fall back on die to the fact that they have spent all they have, borrow money as well to gamble and have accumulated enough debts through gambling and now they have to be running helter and scelter in finding a means of achieving peace of mind.
I don't see any reason why someone will believe that he can win the next bet that will lead him into borrowing money,when he doesn't have. Though,this might have worked for few gamblers but it is rare for you to see it. Greed of winning back their loss and not letting go of their loss. This is what will make a gambler borrow money to gamble. Gambling is fun when you do it the right way but when it is done the wrong way it can lead to frustration and depression. Only gamble when you have the money to do so and don't try to chase your loss due to greed. Don't be indebted to gambling.
If one decided to borrow money to gamble, it would be a big mistake. Even though he believes he can win, it can't always come true because defeat is always next to victory and ready to take our money. Instead of later getting frustrated when you have to pay off the money owed after losing at gambling, it's better for you to play gambling with the money you have so that it will be safer even if he loses.

Casinos will not allow a person to play without money but casinos give permission to a person to play in demo or free mode. But it will not give pleasure because we do not feel the real loss or win.
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June 21, 2023, 09:38:30 AM
Indeed, they will not allow that to be easy though chances might be done if you are really having a good credit stand or you already develop good trust from the owner, though if offshore maybe yes but if online, where things is very different, trust thing is something that really hard to earn, especially if you are dealing with casinos, the facilitator would be more willing to continue without giving any special privileges to anyone as business will be protected to any kind of scamming activities from the users.
No matter how much an online casino trusts you, they will never give you a loan to gamble without getting any valid collateral from you because that will be against their business model and it can be threat to their business because a lot of people will start taking loans and default them and that will bankrupt the casino in no time and they would obviously never be ready to accept that.

That is why, if such a thing was possible, casinos would have already implemented it by now and if there is nothing like that available in online casinos, it simply means that this is not viable solution for them and it won't make them any profits at all.
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The habit of gamblers when they lose they feel confident that by playing again they will win and return the money they have lost, but the fact is that they still lose because they play with emotion and also play without a controlled strategy, that's why many gamblers are in debt because assets have been sold out and also money that has been used up so there is no other way but to owe.

I think gamblers who are in debt never live in peace because they are chased by debt and are also always in the shadows of the defeat they feel, that's why almost most gamblers who have a lot of debt always end up committing suicide because they don't pay their debts. even though gambling should be played with money, because without money you should never play gambling.
For those who like to chase previous losses, it is quite a big addiction to the emotions they have, even though it is very clear that if they have lost, then with subsequent wins there is no guarantee to win or restore previous losses, the fact is that all of us who have experienced this experience actually it will get worse because the bet continues to increase and in the end all the capital runs out so they make loans everywhere to play again.

Yeah, living with debt is full of peace, especially if they only spend it in gambling, that's too imposing when things are no longer possible, whoever never makes a loan just for the sake of gambling, unless it's for an urgent need other than gambling, then that won't be a problem.

Maybe we have heard the common words, "gamble happily" in the sense that if you have extra money then you can go to gambling.
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June 21, 2023, 08:42:05 AM
Gambling when you hqve no money is not advisable, it's never a must to gamble when the conditions attached to gambling as at that moment we are interested aren't favourable enough for us to have an itch free gambling experience by not going into debts, I've seen some gamblers having nothing to fall back on die to the fact that they have spent all they have, borrow money as well to gamble and have accumulated enough debts through gambling and now they have to be running helter and scelter in finding a means of achieving peace of mind.
I don't see any reason why someone will believe that he can win the next bet that will lead him into borrowing money,when he doesn't have. Though,this might have worked for few gamblers but it is rare for you to see it. Greed of winning back their loss and not letting go of their loss. This is what will make a gambler borrow money to gamble. Gambling is fun when you do it the right way but when it is done the wrong way it can lead to frustration and depression. Only gamble when you have the money to do so and don't try to chase your loss due to greed. Don't be indebted to gambling.
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Gambling when you hqve no money is not advisable, it's never a must to gamble when the conditions attached to gambling as at that moment we are interested aren't favourable enough for us to have an itch free gambling experience by not going into debts, I've seen some gamblers having nothing to fall back on die to the fact that they have spent all they have, borrow money as well to gamble and have accumulated enough debts through gambling and now they have to be running helter and scelter in finding a means of achieving peace of mind.
The habit of gamblers when they lose they feel confident that by playing again they will win and return the money they have lost, but the fact is that they still lose because they play with emotion and also play without a controlled strategy, that's why many gamblers are in debt because assets have been sold out and also money that has been used up so there is no other way but to owe.

I think gamblers who are in debt never live in peace because they are chased by debt and are also always in the shadows of the defeat they feel, that's why almost most gamblers who have a lot of debt always end up committing suicide because they don't pay their debts. even though gambling should be played with money, because without money you should never play gambling.
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