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Topic: Are They One And The Same: Get-Paid.com and Game-Protect ? (Read 512 times)

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This sounds extremely absurd.

It's not absurd, I know it's hard for you to see things from my perspective but you just have to realize this is the truth.



You can find out who the lawyer is already from the payment slip provided earlier, and I'm trying not to disclose any further information because I cannot disclose who the casino is, and I still have some respect for Game Protect for helping me with it - I am only posting this here so you could see, appreciate, and understand he really helped me, and there is no lie about it.

Other than that we have no business/personal/family relations whatsoever, none none none.
legendary
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So this Get-Paid.com user claims he had dealings with game-protect but will not provide the name of the lawyer that game-protect pointed him towards?

Is there any evidence that there was even any real dealing between Get-Paid.com and game-protect? All we have is their word for it? And all we have is just one person across the whole forum that can vouch for game-protect and say they received some money from a casino thanks to their intervention?

This sounds extremely absurd.

There are probably more chances of this whole scenario being a fabricated incident where they mutually scratched each others back for the sake of getting some publicity. If anybody has any other comments or alternative views please post them especially if they have actual evidence of a real deal between Get-Paid.com, game-protect and the elusive alleged lawyer.


The total amount was $10k
You said it was around $10500 (take a look again https://archive.is/sHtI7#selection-6355.186-6355.209), why would you say it was around $10500 the day after you received payment while it was $10K? Makes no sense. Ok, lets say you lost memory in a day so it was $10K. 70% is 7000$, so $1432 are missing.

Hm, lawyer got ~45% but the deal was 30%-70% and case never reached court of law (https://archive.is/sHtI7#selection-7482.3-7482.4):
and GameProtect also got his fees deducted hence the amount you see is what I got after all fees were taken.
Nop, that's not what you said. I specifically asked you about that and you said that you donated in advance, take another look:

Quote from: Get-Paid
Quote from: marlboroza
Quote from: Get-Paid
GP helped me to get a lawyer to take this case on a 30-70 basis (30% for the lawyer, 70% for myself, whilst GP received a very small Bitcoin donation out of this).
Did you pay game-protect before or after you received your money?
3) I donated in advance
(https://archive.is/sHtI7#selection-7541.0-7541.23)

This story and story from 2 years ago are 2 different stories.
sr. member
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One simple doesn't "mind their own business" when someone says":
Quote from: get-paid
Game Protect from Get-Paid.com's point of view is an excellent source to help people to make legal claims against legal issues they had with gambling operators

I am no longer in favor of this opinion, I used to say it back then because Game Protect helped me but since the last incidents he had including one that involved me personally - then my opinion of Game Protect is neutral and I'd rather not have any business with him or related to him and I'd like this forum to stop pestering me with this once and for all.

5% of $10000 is $500 (https://archive.is/cZQdr#selection-884.0-884.5). So it is $2000?

Please don't use what you saw on his site, I honestly don't remember what we agreed back then and everything was recorded on his site which is no longer available, so honestly I can't tell you what was back then, I'm trying to remember as best as I could - it was quite a while ago and if you don't "buy" my story then don't, take it or leave it the way it is, everyone has skeletons and nobody's perfect, so sorry if I'm not being 100% consistent here, I honestly can't be more than what I've been doing here and I'd like to put it behind me and please don't ask me anymore questions about Game Protect, you're free to ask me questions about my own businesses - by all means!

Oh, ok then, you "donated" in advance but you didn't because you insisted on "no-win-no-fee" but you actually "donated" twice. How many times are you going to change story?

See above, sorry if you don't like what I'm telling you, I'm pretty close to describe what happened more or less. Try to grab the rest from Game Protect or alternatively just forget about him and move on.[/quote]


The part that I focused on was that Get-Paid.com found game-protect trustworthy and that speaks volumes about Get-Paid.com.

You need to move forward, this part is already dead by now, since Jenni's case.
Please quote some new quotes from that thread instead of going several years backwards.
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Thank you for the clarity. The part that I focused on was that Get-Paid.com found game-protect trustworthy and that speaks volumes about Get-Paid.com.

I concede they are not the same person but their acquaintance earlier on seems highly questionable. Did that event actually take place or was it a complete fabrication in order to buy game-protect some legitimacy?


it has been stated Get-Paid.com has been connected with game-protect in the past

Here's the connection:

Get-Paid.com is the only known person that Game-Protect successfully 'helped'.  (I think Game-Protect basically got lucky and harassed the right casino)

Thinking game-protect was legit, Get-Paid then went on to loan money (about 1k euro I think) to another casino victim in order to pay game-protect to recover their money from another site.  Obviously that money vanished.

So, for a while Get-Paid left the only positive feedback game-protect had, and game-protect used that as proof he was legitimate for a while.  In the end though, get-paid realized he was a scammer and changed the feedback accordingly.

Them being the same person just doesn't make sense.
legendary
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"Mind your own business"
One simple doesn't "mind their own business" when someone says":
I don't remember the amount I paid beforehand but I don't think it was a large amount.
5% of $10000 is $500 (https://archive.is/cZQdr#selection-884.0-884.5). So it is $2000?
$1432 to GameProtect (payable after winning the case, not before, I insisted on a no-win-no-fee).
https://loyce.club/archive/posts/5497/54970839.html
$1432 to GameProtect (payable after winning the case, not before, I insisted on a no-win-no-fee after paying some amount beforehand).
He got paid in advance before the claim and he got paid afterwards as well.
Oh, ok then, you "donated" in advance but you didn't because you insisted on "no-win-no-fee" but you actually "donated" twice. How many times are you going to change story?

edited couple of times  Roll Eyes
sr. member
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You said it was around $10500 (take a look again https://archive.is/sHtI7#selection-6355.186-6355.209), why would you say it was around $10500 the day after you received payment while it was $10K? Makes no sense. Ok, lets say you lost memory in a day so it was $10K. 70% is 7000$, so $1432 are missing.

The lawyer got 30%, not 45% - it doesn't matter if it reached court or not, the lawyer did his job and got his own share, which is fair in my opinion.
GameProtect got 15%
I got 55%-ish (see below)
The total claim was around $10,000 - 10,500 - I am not 100% sure and honestly I don't really care what was the exact amount back then, to the dollar/cent - am I under an investigation in a police station now or what? Seriously, the easiest answer is "Mind your own business" but I've been trying to play it fair and nice and provide whatever you asked for but there is a limit to how much you can annoy someone over this.


Nop, that's not what you said. I specifically asked you about that and you said that you donated in advance, take another look:

He got paid in advance before the claim and he got paid afterwards as well. I don't remember the amount I paid beforehand but I don't think it was a large amount.

...so what 1432$ fees are you exactly talking about?

30% to the lawyer, correct.
$1432 to GameProtect (payable after winning the case, not before, I insisted on a no-win-no-fee after paying some amount beforehand). It should be $1500 and not $1432 btw but I am not going to go down into these details.

You're making a fuss about it much more than it should be, and I totally understand you guys are over and super suspicious with some people here but honestly I'm doing you a favor of sharing those things with you and getting nothing/zero in return (don't need you to trust me, don't need any favors from you) - anyway throw the book one more time and you won't get any further answers as I really don't owe you anything, in addition to the despicable attitude from some members here.
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Yes the general consensus here seems to be they are two different people but initially things seemed a lot more deeper than them just having a fleeting aquiantence.

BS.
Would you bet 1 BTC on it? I would.
If you dare - please place your bet.
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Yes the general consensus here seems to be they are two different people but initially things seemed a lot more deeper than them just having a fleeting aquiantence.


Haven't had time to read through details, but I highly doubt they (game-protect and get-paid.com) are the same person and I think anyone with any history with both of them would probably agree. 
legendary
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The total amount was $10k
You said it was around $10500 (take a look again https://archive.is/sHtI7#selection-6355.186-6355.209), why would you say it was around $10500 the day after you received payment while it was $10K? Makes no sense. Ok, lets say you lost memory in a day so it was $10K. 70% is 7000$, so $1432 are missing.

Hm, lawyer got ~45% but the deal was 30%-70% and case never reached court of law (https://archive.is/sHtI7#selection-7482.3-7482.4):
and GameProtect also got his fees deducted hence the amount you see is what I got after all fees were taken.
Nop, that's not what you said. I specifically asked you about that and you said that you donated in advance, take another look:

Quote from: Get-Paid
Quote from: marlboroza
Quote from: Get-Paid
GP helped me to get a lawyer to take this case on a 30-70 basis (30% for the lawyer, 70% for myself, whilst GP received a very small Bitcoin donation out of this).
Did you pay game-protect before or after you received your money?
3) I donated in advance
(https://archive.is/sHtI7#selection-7541.0-7541.23)

This story and story from 2 years ago are 2 different stories.
sr. member
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And to be honest, date on that paper is just one day older than your post in game-protect's topic, while 70% of $10500 is $7350, I find very strange that you were very happy with missing $1782, unless you didn't notice that it is missing? Something just doesn't sound right here.

The total amount was $10k, from this the lawyer got some fees taken, and GameProtect also got his fees deducted hence the amount you see is what I got after all fees were taken.
legendary
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I don't think Get-Paid is the same person as Game-Protect, but this account is, as is drexlas.
I don't think that is game-protect, I have some other circumstantial proofs that this account belongs to one gambler who had problem with another gambling site, unless that other account is alt of game-protect as well and as I don't think they are I won't say anything more about this account.

They could also be:

1) pissed gambler who lost money
2) competition
3) "extremely mentally ill bitcointalk account"
4) random troll who is bored


Now hold on a second, Get-Paid.

I can disclose the lawyer he put me in touch with got me paid - this is a payment confirmation from back then:



Game Protect helped me to get paid

That settlement amount is much smaller than you said it was:

Quote from: Get-Paid
I'm here to tell you that GP assisted me with this case from the beginning until the end - the lawyer made that company pay me back my losses (around $10,500 in total)

[...]

30% for the lawyer, 70% for myself, whilst GP received a very small Bitcoin donation out of this
(https://archive.is/sHtI7#selection-6304.0-6312.1)

And to be honest, date on that paper is just one day older than your post in game-protect's topic, while 70% of $10500 is $7350, I find very strange that you were very happy with missing $1782, unless you didn't notice that it is missing? Something just doesn't sound right here.
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it has been stated Get-Paid.com has been connected with game-protect in the past

Here's the connection:

Get-Paid.com is the only known person that Game-Protect successfully 'helped'.  (I think Game-Protect basically got lucky and harassed the right casino)

Thinking game-protect was legit, Get-Paid then went on to loan money (about 1k euro I think) to another casino victim in order to pay game-protect to recover their money from another site.  Obviously that money vanished.

So, for a while Get-Paid left the only positive feedback game-protect had, and game-protect used that as proof he was legitimate for a while.  In the end though, get-paid realized he was a scammer and changed the feedback accordingly.

Them being the same person just doesn't make sense.
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As posted by members, it seems there is an an acceptance they are not the same person but it has been stated Get-Paid.com has been connected with game-protect in the past

Interesting question and topic.

If get-paid is not game-protect, then we are sure that they worked together for some time (and who knows maybe they still do)
and we can see that get-paid is following his old partner footsteps in 'protecting' people from evil casino and betting websites.
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What a sadist.
He does enjoy talking with his old buddy and partner...
haha great words Get-paid  Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
this is an easy bet, I want to bet 100000000 btc on this bet, as it is an guaranteed win that they are a crooked operation with many scams
what can we do to give them the red warning permamently, because now they are just paying people to make sure it disappears again
legendary
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It is clear and obvious that you make false and misleading claims towards Game Protect, a criminal offense in most countries!

I don't think Get-Paid is the same person as Game-Protect, but this account is, as is drexlas.

false and misleading claims

false and misleading claims

false and misleading claims

false and misleading claims

false and misleading claims!

What a sadist.
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Haven't had time to read through details, but I highly doubt they (game-protect and get-paid.com) are the same person and I think anyone with any history with both of them would probably agree. 
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Interesting question and topic.

If get-paid is not game-protect, then we are sure that they worked together for some time (and who knows maybe they still do)
and we can see that get-paid is following his old partner footsteps in 'protecting' people from evil casino and betting websites.
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I see like minded people tend to find one another  Roll Eyes




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You publicly claim that Game Protect is an idiot because you pay him a certain $ and he never managed to complete the case for Jenny:

But,

Game Protect was also an idiot for instance with Jenny's case, I did pay him a certain $ and he never managed to complete the case for Jenny,

Now you inform that the lawyer never announced that the case is lost and closed and you also inform that a lawyer is handling the case.

It is clear and obvious that you make false and misleading claims towards Game Protect, a criminal offense in most countries!

Breaching the confidentiality obligation is also a criminal offense in many countries:

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CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: The information sent in and enclosed with this e-mail message is exclusively destined for the addressee(s). Use of this information by others than the addressee(s) is strictly prohibited. Disclosure, multiplication, distribution and/or provisions of this information to third parties is not permitted.
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The lawyer informed you that the case is lost and closed?
And this was caused by the idiocy of Game Protect?

How?

Game Protect, I understand you're upset I called you an idiot and you sent me an email about it yesterday to which I don't wish to reply via email.
Here is what Jenni (I previously said Jenny, apologies, spelled with 'i') - this is what she informed me:

Tuesday, October 8, 2019 9:57:58 AM
Did you happen to hear back from the casino at all?

October 11, 2019 1:58 PM
Have you had any response?

Oct 23, 2019, 1:18 PM
Hi Get Paid
Sorry for the delay - I am working away from home at the moment.
I have asked ****** and am waiting for a response at the moment. As soon as I hear back i'll let you know.

Nov 25, 2019, 6:30 PM
Hi Get Paid
Please see below.
I have been chasing but am unable to get a response. Have you heard anything more your end?

Nov 26, 2019, 10:36 PM
Hi Get Paid
See below.
I don’t suppose you know of anyone else with a claim against this casino? Should I just move on from this?

On November the lawyer said:

The casino cannot be reached by email, the operator is not registered anymore at the Chamber of Commerce and the operator lost its license.
What we can do is file for bankruptcy but then I would need at least one more creditor.
A bankruptcy trustee has far more possibilities than a lawyer has to look for assets and/or relevant info.
If you can find one more creditor willing to participate we can consider filing for bankruptcy.
I will await your reply.

Jenni was looking for another victim of casinovenetian.info but she couldn't find any.

No, the lawyer never said it's all lost but it took you a long time to respond to her (a month and a half).

Again - I don't complain, I don't criticize any side here too much, but I used the term "idiot" because a proper business provides proper customer service.
If we won't respond to our users within hours if not days at most (!!) then we would be criticized as well.
So yes, the term is in place - it's an idiotic thing not to provide proper customer support and it's an idiotic thing not to respond on time.

Did I say I trust you? No.
Did I say I don't trust you? No.

I'm unbiased and please leave me this way, you handle your own business and I'll handle mine, we don't have to continue being in touch so please keep it that way, thank you!
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