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Quote from: robelneo on December 18, 2022, 06:24:14 AM

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Is there any fighting game like Mortal Kombat where you challenge gamers around the world taking a bet? I don't want to take bet on Mike Tyson or Joshua I want gaming by one self, I believe this is less dependant on Luck, this requires more skill than mere luck.

^ Here is https://greenwall.gg/mortal-kombat/.
I read a few casinos that support mortal combat games which is interesting game because you can increase your odds by believing in your skills.
But as we know those p2p games don't have to gain massive adoption because probably there are too many things to consider. First is that it should have a strong internet connection and hard-to-find match which is player don't have the same vacant time.
However, I like this idea and I want to support this, I hope someone here at a gambling casino support this kind of game.

If there's a big demand from gamblers casinos might add this, but we all know casinos are profit-driven, it should have demand, and it should be profitable for the casinos, I notice only small casinos are adding this kind of game but if one big and popular casino install this to their platforms other casinos will follow and adopt it a lot of requirements are needed to have this in a platform but like what I say if there's a market, the industry will give it to them.

I also think so because if the demand from gamblers for the casino to include one type of game that is on the computer to be added to the gambling game is not big, the casino probably won't add it, especially if the computer game doesn't really interest gamblers. Casinos also need to think about how much money they have to be prepared to add or add the game because this could be related to the licensing of the computer game developer. But this gambling business still has a long way to go and can develop even further than now so some computer games may be added to casinos in the future.

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Quote from: robelneo on December 18, 2022, 06:24:14 AM

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Quote from: Crypt0Gore on December 16, 2022, 12:26:16 PM

Is there any fighting game like Mortal Kombat where you challenge gamers around the world taking a bet? I don't want to take bet on Mike Tyson or Joshua I want gaming by one self, I believe this is less dependant on Luck, this requires more skill than mere luck.

^ Here is https://greenwall.gg/mortal-kombat/.
I read a few casinos that support mortal combat games which is interesting game because you can increase your odds by believing in your skills.
But as we know those p2p games don't have to gain massive adoption because probably there are too many things to consider. First is that it should have a strong internet connection and hard-to-find match which is player don't have the same vacant time.
However, I like this idea and I want to support this, I hope someone here at a gambling casino supports this kind of game.

If there's a big demand from gamblers casinos might add this, but we all know casinos are profit-driven, it should have demand, and it should be profitable for the casinos, I notice only small casinos are adding this kind of game but if one big and popular casino install this to their platforms other casinos will follow and adopt it a lot of requirements are needed to have this in a platform but like what I say if there's a market, the industry will give it to them.

Casinos usually listen to the demands and requests of their players so mortal combat could possibly be adopted in a casino if there will be a huge number of players who will demand for it. Maybe that's the reason why our personal favorite games aren't on casinos simply because casino developers always depend on the demand of the majority. There are still lots of potential games that deserve to be added to casinos but it needs fame and popularity to be considered.

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If i understand right, the OP wants to bet on himself? But in professional sports are rejected the bets on matches with yourself or your team. I understand that it is much more interesting to bet on yourself, but this restriction looks fair.
The same time i don`t think that someone in casino will check it until the player becomes really famous.

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Quote from: DoublerHunter on December 16, 2022, 04:59:22 PM

Quote from: Crypt0Gore on December 16, 2022, 12:26:16 PM

Is there any fighting game like Mortal Kombat where you challenge gamers around the world taking a bet? I don't want to take bet on Mike Tyson or Joshua I want gaming by one self, I believe this is less dependant on Luck, this requires more skill than mere luck.

^ Here is https://greenwall.gg/mortal-kombat/.
I read a few casinos that support mortal combat games which is interesting game because you can increase your odds by believing in your skills.
But as we know those p2p games don't have to gain massive adoption because probably there are too many things to consider. First is that it should have a strong internet connection and hard-to-find match which is player don't have the same vacant time.
However, I like this idea and I want to support this, I hope someone here at a gambling casino support this kind of game.

If there's a big demand from gamblers casinos might add this, but we all know casinos are profit-driven, it should have demand, and it should be profitable for the casinos, I notice only small casinos are adding this kind of game but if one big and popular casino install this to their platforms other casinos will follow and adopt it a lot of requirements are needed to have this in a platform but like what I say if there's a market, the industry will give it to them.

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Quote from: Crypt0Gore on December 16, 2022, 12:26:16 PM

Is there any fighting game like Mortal Kombat where you challenge gamers around the world taking a bet? I don't want to take bet on Mike Tyson or Joshua I want gaming by one self, I believe this is less dependant on Luck, this requires more skill than mere luck.

This is very interesting- I hope they do implement this kind of activity in some gambling websites to provide more action. I guess this e-sports somehow fill this role where a competitive scene can be seen and experienced.

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Quote from: Hispo on December 17, 2022, 10:31:10 PM

It is a valid example of Player versus player, but what I have said still stands, since unlike mortal kombat, dices are completely based on luck and OP specifically mentioned a game which is skill based. He wants to earn money by being good at playing.

Still, I feel curious on how Duelbits takes profit off those PvP dices, do you know what percentage they take from gamblers wager?

I am not sure how many percentage but I am sure that they do have profit from each PvP done on their gambling site. Was PvP gaming really that popular? I visited a month ago the Duelbits but I only see few rooms available and it would took you sometime before you would be able to find a match.

Oh interesting so duelbits actually implemented this kind of gameplay on their website. How did it garner traction among its users? I guess the difficulty lies on the number of people that are interested in playing the game.

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Quote from: ufaiz50 on December 18, 2022, 04:48:31 AM

Quote from: Hispo on December 17, 2022, 10:31:10 PM

It is a valid example of Player versus player, but what I have said still stands, since unlike mortal kombat, dices are completely based on luck and OP specifically mentioned a game which is skill based. He wants to earn money by being good at playing.

Still, I feel curious on how Duelbits takes profit off those PvP dices, do you know what percentage they take from gamblers wager?

I am not sure how many percentage but I am sure that they do have profit from each PvP done on their gambling site. Was PvP gaming really that popular? I visited a month ago the Duelbits but I only see few rooms available and it would took you sometime before you would be able to find a match.

Probably a fee for escrowing the funds users bet. Knowing how few people are engaging in PvP, it may not be worth it for developers.

Mortal Kombat isn't even very popular anymore. But there are esports that we can bet on right now where we are not involved but the team from other places. CSGO, PUBG or League of Legends type of games are more popular with esports, I think OP already knows all these but he is just more particular about Mortal Kombat.

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Quote from: Hispo on December 17, 2022, 10:31:10 PM

It is a valid example of Player versus player, but what I have said still stands, since unlike mortal kombat, dices are completely based on luck and OP specifically mentioned a game which is skill based. He wants to earn money by being good at playing.

Still, I feel curious on how Duelbits takes profit off those PvP dices, do you know what percentage they take from gamblers wager?

I am not sure how many percentage but I am sure that they do have profit from each PvP done on their gambling site. Was PvP gaming really that popular? I visited a month ago the Duelbits but I only see few rooms available and it would took you sometime before you would be able to find a match.

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Quote from: Crypt0Gore on December 16, 2022, 12:26:16 PM

Is there any fighting game like Mortal Kombat where you challenge gamers around the world taking a bet? I don't want to take bet on Mike Tyson or Joshua I want gaming by one self, I believe this is less dependant on Luck, this requires more skill than mere luck.

There should be varieties of games in this regard but they are life virtual games that can bring up a challenge on the opponents and it's mostly the actions games that comes with this kind even though it's a reality game we aren't yet fully into because it's a kinda 3D games that seemenly a reality type of games, there have nit been this as expected as work is still undergoing on the Metaverse kind of reality games which i believe we are close to very soon.

For an ordinary game that doesn't use money, it's been around for a long time and keeps getting updates from the developer. But to be brought into the gambling business, I think it may still take time for the developers to make it. It requires the subtleties of 3D games, which take more work. As for bringing it into the Metaverse, maybe it's still waiting for an update from the Metaverse project itself. So we are still waiting until one of the projects releases a game as intended that has been integrated into gambling.

It depends on the request from the house. Developers only work based on what they are been instructed to do. If Casinos can include them in their games it will be a nice idea at least players vs players could play online stake some coin, then who ever wins goes with the stake then the casino get their commission for using their site. It will become more popular than Casino games if implemented.

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Quote from: nakamura12 on December 17, 2022, 03:39:53 PM

Quote from: Hispo on December 17, 2022, 03:29:17 PM

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There are already some casino that implements PVP mode. Just like in Duelbits where pvp dice (Dice Duel is implemented. So I think it isn't impossible that casino will consider implementing PVP games like Mortal combat and alike in their platform. It just need time though, since metaverse is getting popular, the implementation of this kind of gambling games is becoming possible.

It is a valid example of Player versus player, but what I have said still stands, since unlike mortal kombat, dices are completely based on luck and OP specifically mentioned a game which is skill based. He wants to earn money by being good at playing.

Still, I feel curious on how Duelbits takes profit off those PvP dices, do you know what percentage they take from gamblers wager?

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Quote from: Crypt0Gore on December 16, 2022, 12:26:16 PM

Is there any fighting game like Mortal Kombat where you challenge gamers around the world taking a bet? I don't want to take bet on Mike Tyson or Joshua I want gaming by one self, I believe this is less dependant on Luck, this requires more skill than mere luck.

There should be varieties of games in this regard but they are life virtual games that can bring up a challenge on the opponents and it's mostly the actions games that comes with this kind even though it's a reality game we aren't yet fully into because it's a kinda 3D games that seemenly a reality type of games, there have nit been this as expected as work is still undergoing on the Metaverse kind of reality games which i believe we are close to very soon.

For an ordinary game that doesn't use money, it's been around for a long time and keeps getting updates from the developer. But to be brought into the gambling business, I think it may still take time for the developers to make it. It requires the subtleties of 3D games, which take more work. As for bringing it into the Metaverse, maybe it's still waiting for an update from the Metaverse project itself. So we are still waiting until one of the projects releases a game as intended that has been integrated into gambling.

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Quote from: goaldigger on December 17, 2022, 04:29:29 PM

Quote from: Crypt0Gore on December 16, 2022, 12:26:16 PM

Is there any fighting game like Mortal Kombat where you challenge gamers around the world taking a bet? I don't want to take bet on Mike Tyson or Joshua I want gaming by one self, I believe this is less dependant on Luck, this requires more skill than mere luck.

Some gamblers are not a gamer, and some gamer are not a gambler and maybe this is the reason why some casinos are not implementing this because there is a low market on this and they might lose more than to get profit. If you want to bet on eSport I guess its more possible but having this on the system of every casinos, this might not happen at all especially like a Mortal Kombat where many are no longer interested into this kind of game.

but if they will add this a regular gambler might turn into a gamer also , and aside from that ? mortal combat use to be a game of many adult now so much more fun having enjoying in Game while you are betting.
this is a multi tools of happiness for users and also a possible income for gambling operator.
Maybe there are a lack of calls for this but now we must start that call for addressing .

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Quote from: darkangel11 on December 17, 2022, 02:00:20 PM

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This is valid.

Casinos that will setup a PvP version of betting, there's a lot of work to be done. One can setup as what darkangel said or we can easily call it a bot.

It happens in most games and when there's money involved, many are too desperate to do that. There are tournaments that are covered by some bookies and that's the only thing that they rely on listing.

And that's also why imo it should stay as tournaments. Just the fact that games have a hundred bunch of loopholes that would require a lot of testing and checking if it was actually a "legit" play or not is enough to say how PVP betting would never work on skill-based games. If you were familiar with the Minecraft speedrunner scene, you can see an example where one dude who dominated the leaderboards was recently found out to be cheating, in what, after like a few years or so. It's not your usual games, but it's enough to show how games can and will have those loopholes that players will take advantage of.

Heck, even MMOs have a bunch of bots farming just to sell gold to in-game players, what more when betting is introduced.

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Quote from: Crypt0Gore on December 16, 2022, 12:26:16 PM

Is there any fighting game like Mortal Kombat where you challenge gamers around the world taking a bet? I don't want to take bet on Mike Tyson or Joshua I want gaming by one self, I believe this is less dependant on Luck, this requires more skill than mere luck.

I do think none as that kind of game is always subject to fairness. We don't know if we are battling against a real human.

If you want that kind of gambling, found a game related to that and opened a challenge here.

The same as what I did before on the game, Mobile Legends, where I found challenges here with staked money.

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Quote from: Crypt0Gore on December 16, 2022, 12:26:16 PM

Is there any fighting game like Mortal Kombat where you challenge gamers around the world taking a bet? I don't want to take bet on Mike Tyson or Joshua I want gaming by one self, I believe this is less dependant on Luck, this requires more skill than mere luck.

There should be varieties of games in this regard but they are life virtual games that can bring up a challenge on the opponents and it's mostly the actions games that comes with this kind even though it's a reality game we aren't yet fully into because it's a kinda 3D games that seemenly a reality type of games, there have nit been this as expected as work is still undergoing on the Metaverse kind of reality games which i believe we are close to very soon.

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Quote from: darkangel11 on December 17, 2022, 02:00:20 PM

I can tell you why it won't happen. The answer is macros.

With mortal kombat the most difficult combinations are almost impossible to stop but you need to be good at pressing buttons in a sequence. Sometimes a very long sequence like 6 buttons in a row and if you mess up one you won't do anything.

When you play from home it's easy to set up macros on your keyboard and have all the best moves executed with 1 button. That's why all serious game tournaments are live so they see you play.

This is valid.

Casinos that will setup a PvP version of betting, there's a lot of work to be done. One can setup as what darkangel said or we can easily call it a bot.

It happens in most games and when there's money involved, many are too desperate to do that. There are tournaments that are covered by some bookies and that's the only thing that they rely on listing.

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Quote from: Hispo on December 17, 2022, 03:51:40 PM

Quote from: nakamura12 on December 17, 2022, 03:39:53 PM

Quote from: Hispo on December 17, 2022, 03:29:17 PM

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You could be wrong and there might be a casino where they add skill-based games for additional games even though we know that casinos already have many games that gamblers can choose to play to gamble. It is possible that many casinos don't want to add more games like PVP games is because I think what you have said is true that even though there's no PVP games but they are already earning good profit.

Even if casinos tried to add PvP games in their platform, they still would need a way to profit off those games.
Let us assume, some big casino licensed a popular franchise, like Mortal Kombat and they offer an online PVP. in order to get some money back the casino would need to charge a cut or percentage of the money being bet.

this percentage would need to be low enough, so they can attract players to fight each other.

On the other hand, there are already games which are not PvP and do not require licensing or much maintenance, which can get the casino up to a 100% of profit from one single gambler who is having a bad streak and losing it all.

There are already some casino that implements PVP mode. Just like in Duelbits where pvp dice (Dice Duel is implemented. So I think it isn't impossible that casino will consider implementing PVP games like Mortal combat and alike in their platform. It just need time though, since metaverse is getting popular, the implementation of this kind of gambling games is becoming possible.

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Quote from: wiss19 on December 17, 2022, 06:36:54 AM

I know there's an E-Sports tournaments for fighting games like this including Tekken and Street fighter. They are available to watch online and we can always organize a betting event for this like for example on this forum if not locally.

I found a site that has lists^[1] of previous tournament of mortal kombat mostly the latest one MK11. But since this is considered as an esports probably there are platform who organized betting for this the same but not as big as in dota2, CSGO, LOL and MLBB, PUBG for mobile games.

[1] https://escharts.com/tournaments/mkx

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Quote from: Crypt0Gore on December 16, 2022, 12:26:16 PM

Is there any fighting game like Mortal Kombat where you challenge gamers around the world taking a bet? I don't want to take bet on Mike Tyson or Joshua I want gaming by one self, I believe this is less dependant on Luck, this requires more skill than mere luck.

Some gamblers are not a gamer, and some gamer are not a gambler and maybe this is the reason why some casinos are not implementing this because there is a low market on this and they might lose more than to get profit. If you want to bet on eSport I guess its more possible but having this on the system of every casinos, this might not happen at all especially like a Mortal Kombat where many are no longer interested into this kind of game.

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Quote from: darkangel11 on December 17, 2022, 02:00:20 PM

Quote from: Crypt0Gore on December 16, 2022, 12:26:16 PM

Is there any fighting game like Mortal Kombat where you challenge gamers around the world taking a bet? I don't want to take bet on Mike Tyson or Joshua I want gaming by one self, I believe this is less dependant on Luck, this requires more skill than mere luck.

I can tell you why it won't happen. The answer is macros.

With mortal kombat the most difficult combinations are almost impossible to stop but you need to be good at pressing buttons in a sequence. Sometimes a very long sequence like 6 buttons in a row and if you mess up one you won't do anything.

When you play from home it's easy to set up macros on your keyboard and have all the best moves executed with 1 button. That's why all serious game tournaments are live so they see you play.

Yes. That's the biggest challenge with this type of game, cheating. No matter what kind of online PvP game you're playing, there will always be people who try to gain an unfair advantage. Whether it's macros, scripts, bots - whatever. Ultimately, cheating may never be completely eliminated and there will always be people trying to find ways around the rules.

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Quote from: nakamura12 on December 17, 2022, 03:39:53 PM

Quote from: Hispo on December 17, 2022, 03:29:17 PM

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You could be wrong and there might be a casino where they add skill-based games for additional games even though we know that casinos already have many games that gamblers can choose to play to gamble. It is possible that many casinos don't want to add more games like PVP games is because I think what you have said is true that even though there's no PVP games but they are already earning good profit.

Even if casinos tried to add PvP games in their platform, they still would need a way to profit off those games.
Let us assume, some big casino licensed a popular franchise, like Mortal Kombat and they offer an online PVP. in order to get some money back the casino would need to charge a cut or percentage of the money being bet.

this percentage would need to be low enough, so they can attract players to fight each other.

On the other hand, there are already games which are not PvP and do not require licensing or much maintenance, which can get the casino up to a 100% of profit from one single gambler who is having a bad streak and losing it all.

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