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Topic: Are you comfortable with putting your ID online? - page 3. (Read 2702 times)

hero member
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for some websites and services you have to provide your ID. so if there is no alternitive for it, you will have to do so or forget about using this services. if I trust the site and it is well-known company. then there is no problem for me to do so
legendary
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When it comes to bitcoin, we are here for anonymity, so obviously not a good idea.
But I think we should verify at some places in order to get everything going smoothly, where it is needed at a greater extent.
hero member
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It will depend where are you giving your identity and to whom? For example if you are giving to the reputed exchange then it will be safe enough to consider that it will not be misused. But if you feel its a new exchange/person then obviously it will be a risk to say.

Also why does localbitcoin require the identity?
hero member
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No because its identity theft.more people use it in scam so that im not comfotable use my id in online.
legendary
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Identity theft for men is not a matter of concern if you do not have enough to ose but if you have got enough to lose yes it become a problem . I think there should be a special key for login and not those shits like ID and passswords .
Why is money a concern here ? Its basically your reputation on the line. If a guy uses your ID to do something illegal online and is able to social engineer your email or a service you use and do something illegal, then you are likely going to be held responsible for it. Its not only about losing money.
sr. member
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Identity theft for men is not a matter of concern if you do not have enough to ose but if you have got enough to lose yes it become a problem . I think there should be a special key for login and not those shits like ID and passswords .
full member
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As much as possible i won't give any personal documents or ID online especially on today's world. But for trusted sites or company, i don't mind giving especially if it's needed to confirm your identity (still bother me though). One example is on our bitcoin local exchange, you need to take a selfie with your ID to increase the amount of money you can cash out. (i still don't trust anybody)
Identity theft is the most common cases here in our country or maybe in some other countries too. People just need to be careful.
hero member
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I've never been comfortable with putting documents like that online. Social security number, license ID, passport ID, it all feels very unsafe when putting it online. Unfortunately in today's world nearly all job applications are online so you just have to go with it basically. LifeLock isn't looking so bad now is it lol.
sr. member
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If the site has a license and is legit like Perfect Money and PayPal, I don't mind to upload my ID proof. Identity theft can be an issue even in the case of bank accounts wherein online bank accounts get hacked and even email IDs. If I need a payment processor/exchange website to sell my bitcoins or store money online, I have to get my account verified then. There's no option.
I agree bit I still have the feeling even when they are legit and have a license for it its pretty risky because if this will leak your details will lay on the streets waiting for big trouble..
legendary
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If the site has a license and is legit like Perfect Money and PayPal, I don't mind to upload my ID proof. Identity theft can be an issue even in the case of bank accounts wherein online bank accounts get hacked and even email IDs. If I need a payment processor/exchange website to sell my bitcoins or store money online, I have to get my account verified then. There's no option.
hero member
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I try not to give away any personal details.
Nobody knows what other people do to you with that information.
Better trust nobody..
legendary
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The revolution will be monetized!

Oh watermarking. Sure why not. In fact going to full "sego" (steganography) likely would not even be noticed. I like it!
If by steganography, you mean just a small mark so you know which site it went to , then it sort of is pointless, as a reuse won't be noticed, and you cant prove a leak. A watermark will basically not allow a different business to accept the ID.
I'm trying to honeypot that F#@^er !  Cheesy

Or maybe do both in case he/she has any photoshop skilz?

EDIT: Here is an explanation for Linux users. Every user should at least know how.
https://www.unixmen.com/steganography-in-ubuntu-hide-your-files-inside-an-image/
legendary
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Oh watermarking. Sure why not. In fact going to full "sego" (steganography) likely would not even be noticed. I like it!
If by steganography, you mean just a small mark so you know which site it went to , then it sort of is pointless, as a reuse won't be noticed, and you cant prove a leak. A watermark will basically not allow a different business to accept the ID.
legendary
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The revolution will be monetized!
NO, no I am not.
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But I believe a few exchanges would require your ID's because...

But surely we need to do some research if ...
Good points both!
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Actually here is a great solution suggested by some one on my other thread. https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.15253358  . This way you can prevent your ID to be misused, but it would still compromise your personal information.
Oh watermarking. Sure why not. In fact going to full "sego" (steganography) likely would not even be noticed. I like it!
legendary
Activity: 840
Merit: 1000
NO, no I am not.
One of the reasons bitcoin is superior to other systems is the decoupling of identity and wealth. If you were to break into a typical Amazon account you could steal from that person. You would have their personal information and more importantly their credit card number, exp date and CSV number. That is all an attacker needs. If instead you broke into my Overstock.com account you could see some personal information and what I bought, but that is it. Because I only use bitcoin, there is no information that will allow you to take a Satoshi from me.
As far as I'm concerned the days of putting financial and personal information online are over forever.
But I believe a few exchanges would require your ID's because if they want to operate legally(which I am not sure of how many do), then they will need your ID to ensure there is no case of money laundering. This is actually the same for a lot of other online sites involving money(exchanges/ cards/gambling sites etc). How do you register for them without providing your ID if they block your account ?

But surely we need to do some research if that exchanges is legit and registered in government so by that we cam really trust them but if the site that we dont know their credentials and asking for my id? Well big no to that i dont want tp have big problem in the future and better we stay away and lets be more carefull for our self in online world
Good points both!
It is true that I am exposed at an exchange because they must receive and hold fiat until I buy. And there is the paradox of having to give your identity to meet the legal requirements for obtaining *anonymous money.  You could go with a shady exchange that does not do AML/KYC. However then you are putting your trust in criminals. I don't have a great solution for this. I try minimizing the time I keep a balance at an exchange. I send fiat, buy coins, then withdraw ASAP. When it comes to purchases I simply would not patronize most businesses that require my identity to buy something. Sometimes I have had to, for example when buying firearms, but most places I have bought from don't care who you are when paying with cash or bitcoin. I mean, they have been paid. What difference does it make who paid?

*I know, I know.

Actually here is a great solution suggested by some one on my other thread. https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.15253358  . This way you can prevent your ID to be misused, but it would still compromise your personal information.
legendary
Activity: 3066
Merit: 1147
The revolution will be monetized!
NO, no I am not.
One of the reasons bitcoin is superior to other systems is the decoupling of identity and wealth. If you were to break into a typical Amazon account you could steal from that person. You would have their personal information and more importantly their credit card number, exp date and CSV number. That is all an attacker needs. If instead you broke into my Overstock.com account you could see some personal information and what I bought, but that is it. Because I only use bitcoin, there is no information that will allow you to take a Satoshi from me.
As far as I'm concerned the days of putting financial and personal information online are over forever.
But I believe a few exchanges would require your ID's because if they want to operate legally(which I am not sure of how many do), then they will need your ID to ensure there is no case of money laundering. This is actually the same for a lot of other online sites involving money(exchanges/ cards/gambling sites etc). How do you register for them without providing your ID if they block your account ?

But surely we need to do some research if that exchanges is legit and registered in government so by that we cam really trust them but if the site that we dont know their credentials and asking for my id? Well big no to that i dont want tp have big problem in the future and better we stay away and lets be more carefull for our self in online world
Good points both!
It is true that I am exposed at an exchange because they must receive and hold fiat until I buy. And there is the paradox of having to give your identity to meet the legal requirements for obtaining *anonymous money.  You could go with a shady exchange that does not do AML/KYC. However then you are putting your trust in criminals. I don't have a great solution for this. I try minimizing the time I keep a balance at an exchange. I send fiat, buy coins, then withdraw ASAP. When it comes to purchases I simply would not patronize most businesses that require my identity to buy something. Sometimes I have had to, for example when buying firearms, but most places I have bought from don't care who you are when paying with cash or bitcoin. I mean, they have been paid. What difference does it make who paid?

*I know, I know.
sr. member
Activity: 406
Merit: 250
My small answer is no , what if the site you put identity in was hacked ? The hackers can use your identity for their special purposes , we know how they sell identities on the dark internet . I feel  my identity is very special thing and  I won't upload it to any site even they give me a lot of money for that .

The most do not like it but we cannot help it, in some country's its also a must because of the governments..
I also do not like it because I think if it will be put in the wrong hands they have all our details.
hero member
Activity: 1358
Merit: 582
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My small answer is no , what if the site you put identity in was hacked ? The hackers can use your identity for their special purposes , we know how they sell identities on the dark internet . I feel  my identity is very special thing and  I won't upload it to any site even they give me a lot of money for that .
copper member
Activity: 1386
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100% No, I read above that we can put our ids in big companies. Ill say No to them too because these big companies one day will scam you too and take your Ids too. Probably few site came into the market only for this purpose, to get the identities of people who are working in some field, and they invest alot alot for this purpose. At the backend they are probably started by survey companies or may be intelligence companies.
legendary
Activity: 980
Merit: 1000
i'm not comfortable to do so but if it necessary i would did it however i was already did it once for verify my account on local exchange because this is the main terms if i want to use my account for withdraw or deposit my money and after that i was never use my personal identity for any sites on internet
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