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Topic: Are you prepared for the $5 wrench attack ? (1000 ETH stolen) (Read 642 times)

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I would not personally choose one for self / home defense due to the size, weight, and power of the weapon system and projectile.  Wink

A couple problems that come to my mind right away:
Cost of the gun - probably $10k+
Cost of the ammo. Expensive ammo = you won't be able to practise much.
This is a sniper rifle - useless for self defense, unless someone announces they're going to assault you and you'll set up in a window waiting for them to go through the gate. Even in such situation, a simple SMG like MP7 or Scorpion would suffice. Most people don't own properties large enough to effectively defend with a sniper rifle and small automatic weapons easily reach targets that are 100m away.


tbh, for 10k, it would probably be better to just put bars on your windows/doors, have a gate. And a security system. Or the best preventive measure, not be telling everyone what you have.

The world is so insane that you're just as likely to go to jail defending yourself while the intruder's family sues you.  Esp with a sniper riffle, if they're not close enough to be an immediate threat you're screwed.

And esp with most home invasions having multiple intruders, unless you're Rambo it's best to prevent it from happening or to not piss them off. Anyone talking about a sniper riffle for home defense is going to get themselves killed, lol.

I see so many problems with this, i also think a smg would be overkill and less effective for home defense. they're not going to be wearing armor, there's probably going to be multiple, and odds are the homeowner won't have expert aim., and not more than a few feet away. 4+ shot, shotgun is all that is needed.
legendary
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If I'm wrong, and the story is true, then it's not hard to conclude how the attackers knew he had such wealth in the house - he probably bragged online and practically invited them to visit him.

And that is a problem with people nowadays, they have become stupid and have started flaunting their money online, bragging about how much they make in a year, thinking that will get them more money, but unless they used some of that money to pay for a security detail, it's actually just going to get them robbers and other sorts of assorted criminals.

People really need to stop being so careless about their personal safety and keep their mouths shut.
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I stand with Ukraine.
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When it comes to that famous hard drive, there is definitely doubt because there is no evidence that it ever existed, nor that James ever mined BTC. The question is how far a person is really willing to go when it comes to a lie, but some eventually convince themselves that something is true even though they knew it was a lie at the beginning.

However, in this particular case, it is not only about the lost BTC, but James claims that the disk also contains the real IP address of Satoshi.

To me it looks like he's trying to draw as much attention as he can to this case. (And maybe there's no case at all either.) Idk, the whole thing looks fishy to me. I think now the question is for what does need that attention, rather than what happened to him.

No posts on X from him since June 18. Is he trying to create a buzz around all this? Maybe. But for what? Only time will tell.
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Being your own bank has it's downsides, one of which is physical attack.

Are you prepared for such event ?



EDIT: It was not me, I just posted it.  Wink

This ugly incident is one of the reason we have to be careful about the level information we release to the public about our cryptocurrency holding. I have always known that it is safer that people do not know about our activities in cryptocurrency than making it public. The case described in this post is most possible because the victim let them know about his assets. If not of sabotage from friends and family, it is possible he has been posting about his portfolio on social media without knowing that he was being monitored. I just hope we all are able to learn from the incidence and approach our portfolio building with utmost confidentiality. 
legendary
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I would not personally choose one for self / home defense due to the size, weight, and power of the weapon system and projectile.  Wink

A couple problems that come to my mind right away:
Cost of the gun - probably $10k+
Cost of the ammo. Expensive ammo = you won't be able to practise much.
This is a sniper rifle - useless for self defense, unless someone announces they're going to assault you and you'll set up in a window waiting for them to go through the gate. Even in such situation, a simple SMG like MP7 or Scorpion would suffice. Most people don't own properties large enough to effectively defend with a sniper rifle and small automatic weapons easily reach targets that are 100m away.
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$5 wrench attack has a 8$ per round solution
https://www.luckygunner.com/50-cal-bmg-750-grain-a-max-match-hornady-100-rounds

Expect in pussy states where only rapist and drug dealers are allowed to smuggle guns.

Haha a bit overkill but I like it  Cool

And this ammunition is for which gun exactly?

Plenty of sexy rifles for it, but if you want to take it to house combat then eliminate threat outside  I would recommend you go with a bullpup anti materiel style like the lynx
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hseWOv2fvF4

Makes sense, you can't fit a suppressor on the 82A1 either so it's going to take out your ears too.

You can fit it on any version even before the 107a1 but the recoil would hammer you into the wall, that cast aside can't stop wondering why would you want a suppressor for  self defense situation, one live round and you have triggered all ShotSpotter in the neighborhood and any assailant would instalearn how precious life is even with a failed heist.
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Another good option to have against such attacks are alarm systems connected to security company.

This systems can be set to have a silent alarm activated if you enter special PIN that was set for it so good in case you're already at gun point and forced to disable it.

You can also activate the silent alarm with a remote.

So criminals won't have hours to torture you or your family.

Good also for having more time to grab your gun in case you're asleep and someone breaks into your home.

Combine this with good front doors, a good lock on them, camera system and anti-burglary window blinds and you're pretty safe.
All of this is only to give you a bit more time to grab your gun, otherwise you're at the mercy of police which usually comes too late.

If you are one of this "guns are bad" people, then sooner or later someone will rob you anyway and you'll be lucky to stay alive  Wink

Someone might not need a gun if they have enough security, however, it's always better to have one available at your house just in case you need it and the person should get trained to be able to use that gun because it's useless if you are not able to use it either out of fear or not having enough knowledge or understanding about it.

It's important to have all your doors locked at all times when you know you have the possibility of getting robbed because such things happen around the place where you live. One should know their surrounding very well, so it's not difficult to understand or realize that there are crimes happening around or not so that a person can take necessary precautions before something bad happens.
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Another good option to have against such attacks are alarm systems connected to security company.

This systems can be set to have a silent alarm activated if you enter special PIN that was set for it so good in case you're already at gun point and forced to disable it.

You can also activate the silent alarm with a remote.

So criminals won't have hours to torture you or your family.

Good also for having more time to grab your gun in case you're asleep and someone breaks into your home.

Combine this with good front doors, a good lock on them, camera system and anti-burglary window blinds and you're pretty safe.
All of this is only to give you a bit more time to grab your gun, otherwise you're at the mercy of police which usually comes too late.

If you are one of this "guns are bad" people, then sooner or later someone will rob you anyway and you'll be lucky to stay alive  Wink
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Makes sense, you can't fit a suppressor on the 82A1 either so it's going to take out your ears too.

Yep. even if you missed, the sound alone would hurt them (and you).
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And this ammunition is for which gun exactly?

50 BMG ? it's for long heavy rifles like Barrett 82A1.

There's no point of having one other than fun on the range.

Makes sense, you can't fit a suppressor on the 82A1 either so it's going to take out your ears too.
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This bullets are so sharp and weight so much even throwing them by hand at the adversary would hurt them Grin
legendary
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You could split in half all three of this thieves with one bullet shot from this rifle  Cheesy

...and completely remove an entire wall from your home. 😂🤣😅
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You could split in half all three of this thieves with one bullet shot from this rifle  Cheesy
legendary
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$5 wrench attack has a 8$ per round solution
https://www.luckygunner.com/50-cal-bmg-750-grain-a-max-match-hornady-100-rounds

Expect in pussy states where only rapist and drug dealers are allowed to smuggle guns.

Haha a bit overkill but I like it  Cool

And this ammunition is for which gun exactly?

Any number of very large rifles made by several manufactures.  Grin

I would not personally choose one for self / home defense due to the size, weight, and power of the weapon system and projectile.  Wink

jr. member
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And this ammunition is for which gun exactly?

50 BMG ? it's for long heavy rifles like Barrett 82A1.

There's no point of having one other than fun on the range.
legendary
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$5 wrench attack has a 8$ per round solution
https://www.luckygunner.com/50-cal-bmg-750-grain-a-max-match-hornady-100-rounds

Expect in pussy states where only rapist and drug dealers are allowed to smuggle guns.

Haha a bit overkill but I like it  Cool

And this ammunition is for which gun exactly?
jr. member
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When you extend your seed phrase with a passphrase, you get a new wallet that can only be opened with your seed phrase + passphrase, and just the seed phrase will open only the base wallet. If you have funds in the base wallet, you can make the criminals believe that is all the BTC you have, so they take it and go away, that is what is plausible deniability. It is certainly risky, but it is something that could work.

This is good idea, except for the situations where criminals know how much you have.

You've been talking about guns so much in this topic, what's your point. You can get a gun to protect yourself if you want, that is fine, but i thought the discussion was about non-violent ways of protecting yourself, i.e using solutions relating to the BTC network.

It's about all solutions, violent and non-violent - whatever it takes.
As for guns, well - it is the best tool against physical attack that man has invented so maybe that's why as this topic is about physical attack.
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This is why it's better to not post in social media anything about your crypto. I don't have any ideas how to be prepared for that kind of attack
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Obviously I've prepared if something bad happen.

I've create two wallets, one is without passphrase and one is with passphrase, I hold most of my coins in a wallet with passphrase and small amount in my wallet without passphrase. Since most Average Joe only know seed phrase is either 12 words or 24 words, I would give my 12 words or 24 words and say if it's all I have, they will believe and they might not force me more.

Stay lowkey is the best choice here.
legendary
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Very strong passphrase ? it doesn't matter in this case. I don't know what you mean by "plausible deniability" but criminals will torture you (or your love ones) until you break and it can take hours or even days if they kidnap you.
When you extend your seed phrase with a passphrase, you get a new wallet that can only be opened with your seed phrase + passphrase, and just the seed phrase will open only the base wallet. If you have funds in the base wallet, you can make the criminals believe that is all the BTC you have, so they take it and go away, that is what is plausible deniability. It is certainly risky, but it is something that could work.
If you have large amounts of money, why not invest ~500-700 bucks (depending where you live) to buy a Glock ?
You've been talking about guns so much in this topic, what's your point. You can get a gun to protect yourself if you want, that is fine, but i thought the discussion was about non-violent ways of protecting yourself, i.e using solutions relating to the BTC network.
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