Topic: Are you worried about the delta virus variant? - page 4. (Read 839 times)

I just posted on another thread to explain how evolution works: mutation plus natural selection.
The number of mutations is dependent on the amount of virus in circulation. This is a global pandemic, so there will be a great deal of different mutations. Some will be of little or no concern, some will be a great concern, if more transmissible or to some extent resistant to the vaccine.

So yes, we will likely all need annual booster shots to counter the latest variants. Once the pandemic is over, the virus will become simply endemic. It will be here all the time... but will become less of a concern due to rising immunity within the population, from people who've caught it, from the initial vaccines, and from annual boosters.

The main reason that CV19 has created such chaos is that it is a novel virus, i.e. no pre-existing immunity within the population to slow its progress.

The gamma variant has an increased mortality rate from what I've researched but it's definitely not 1 out of 4 people that get it die. Quite literally the Covid death rate across all age demographics combined is 1 percent. If you're young and healthy, it's something like .01 percent, whereas if you're above 70 and unhealthy (obesity, diabetes, heart disease, all the rest) than it's in the range of 20+ percent lethal. Definitely not 25 percent...

They simply didn't know to mega-dose with vitamin D, vitamin C, and take a little zinc. Standard good nutrition along with these would have saved almost everybody from Covid.

Gamma (Brazil) is 140% more transmissible and is responsible for many deaths here, and people who survived the early variant had it worse when they were hit by gamma.

Some people are simply not affected but many people will. Since the very beginning it was known 1 out of 4 died and 1 out of 4 did not even had symptoms, with about half having it bad and needing medical care even remaining with aftermath difficulties.

Its not good, and even vaccinated people can spread it to non vaccinated people, people should keep their distance and masks and avoid going out unless necessary, else the virus will never stop and keep mutating and returning to kick them back again.

I'm telling you there is people here who had the early variant, survived, and then gamma killed them. It seems that Delta and Kappa (India) are doing the same.

My only fear of these “variant” strains is that it will lead to more of my rights being infringed upon by my government. I won’t be getting a vaccine and I am not worried about catching the flu.

Here’s a crazy idea. Human beings could go about their business as normal and not let the flu ruin all of our lives.

Imagine all the psychological damage being done to people who will probably live the rest of their lives wearing masks in public.

Personally, I'm not worried about it at all. First of all, I'm vaccinated, but that's not the main reason. I'm still young, without any health problems. So, I don't see any reasons why I should be worried. Before I got vaccinated, I didn't took any precautions and I was only forced to wear mask when going to shop. I'm not saying that virus isn't dangerous at all, but. Eh, nevermind.
I'm more concerned that spread of Delta variant means another wave of lockdowns in autumn. It spreads much faster than other variants, so, if there will be low % number of vaccinated people, prepare for another lockdown. Though, UK, vaccination numbers is good there, but spread of virus is going up there every day.

That belief is what pushed this virus this far. People who refuse to get vaccinated are just making things worse. Not that your fear is invalid but what this does is help the virus reach more people with different body types and DNA. This only makes things more difficult for the frontliners since this just helps the virus find more bodies to get into, making it easier for the virus to find a suitable body to evolve in. Oh well, I guess people just naturally thinks differently from one another despite information awareness.

I've also been vaccinated but I'm still a little worried about the delta variant...

there is an issue that says that the delta variant virus is immune to the vaccines currently circulating, so to deal with it a new vaccine is needed. what bothers me is whether if this virus continues to evolution, we should all be vaccinated every year!

It does if you look at the data. It's not more dangerous than other variants, but does seem to spread more easily. I've linked to the various charts and datasets in the UK quite recently in another thread, so I won't post them all again. The variant now accounts for 99% of new cases in the UK, and case numbers are rising quite quickly... fortunately, because most older people have now been vaccinated, hospitalisations and deaths and not increasing as they did in previous Covid waves.

Cases are rising mostly amongst younger people (who have not yet been offered the vaccine), and as you'd expect the more severe cases seem to be mostly amongst older people who chose not to take the vaccine when offered.


If it was just some propaganda thing to scare people, then they'd say that death rates were rising - they're not saying that.
Although maybe you'll say it's a secret plan to encourage people to get vaccinated?

It (the 'delta', aka 'indian' variant) pretty demonstrably doesn't do shit:

  https://twitter.com/FatEmperor/status/1407029848107802630

It's only goal in the propagandasphere is to further terrorize the idjut class give political cover for 'leaders' to keep imposing face shields on their peeps.  And that it's done.

News channels are hyping this more than how bad actually it was or will be, anyway I am not worried and let's face if I get infected and you know even the completely vaccinated people are also can get affected so we are not alone.

Please stay safe, always wear a mask and keep yourself healthy everyone.

I hope you don't have any older family members around you that you could infect. My biggest fear is that I get the virus, don't have symptoms and then infect my 90 year old grandmother. I got the first shot of vaccination in May, but it seems that one dose is not enough to protect us from the delta variant. I will be more cautious until I get the second injection in 4 weeks.

Are you sure? Did you measure the levels of T- and B- cells in your blood? AFAIK, you are not a young man and with the age the  developing of those cells in the human body decreases dramatically. Unless you are alien from Alpha Centauri this processes  is steadily going inside  your body. Take care of yourself.

because its not an 'unleased bioweapon'

they have now analysed the virus genome soo many times that if it was a bioweapon there would be millions of reports showing the parts of the sequence that reveal crispa

however there was no crispa performed on it. thus it was not "man made"
so there are no reports.

there is however correlation to a strain that was found in wild pangolins. which shows the zoonotic transfer was natural
this information has been public for over a year

those wanting to point fingers at wuhan and chinese labs are doing it for political motivation. not the truth

The Elite are hyping the "Delta variant" so the governments of the world can control the masses further. They will demand more power and more control telling you to stay in your homes so they can regulate your food and pharma intake. You will be told that the current vaccine is not enough and will need another series of booster shots as I said in previous threads they will not stop pushing new vaccines to the variants or booster shots. Its not enough until they control you entirely or make you dead. The crazy part is everyone will talk about how the vaccines are good or bad on how we should not take or take them but what no one in this particular thread has mentioned is holding the people that unleashed this bioweapon accountable.

vaccines do not create a bubble proximity shield that prevents infection
vaccines do teach the body how to fight it fast and effectively so you dont get as bad symptoms


viruses are created at different sizes from 70nm to 150nm
the ones at 150nm dont hang around in the air as much, the 70nm do hang around in the air

the delta varient is more of the 75nm prefering size. meaning not only do particles hang around in the air. but each cell can produce more viruses before the cell cant take it anymore and pop

and so more particles that can survive floating in the air for longer means more chance to infect people.
more virals in the air means more replication
.. simple common sense

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now here is the important stuff
if you had 5 identical quintuplets all same health biology and age
meaning a 50% chance of lowgrade symptoms and 15% of severe based on age and health
now lets add in some variables
brother A - had MERS 8 years ago, but no vaccine
brother B - had MERS 1 year ago, but no vaccine
brother C - never had any corona. but did have both doses of vaccine
brother D - never had any corona. but did have both doses of vaccine
brother E - never had any corona. never had any vaccine


and so imagine they all had the wuhan strain
brother E - 50% lowgrade risk, 15% severe risk
brother A - 48% lowgrade risk, 14% severe risk
brother B - 40% lowgrade risk, 12% severe risk
brother CD - 2.5% lowgrade risk, 0.15% severe risk

now add more variables
brothers CD both had vaccines. but
brother C got the wuhan alpha virus - 2.5% low, 0.15% severe
brother D got the indian delta virus - 3% low, 0.17% severe

things to note. brothers A&B
having a previous corona helps, the more recently you had and the more closer the strains are
mers and covid are so divergent even having mers last year and covid this year is like a 20% differential benefit 50%->40% risk
but having it 8 years ago is only a 4% differential benefit 50%->48% risk as antibodies deplete over the years.
so someone getting a corona a year ago. even if its very divergent. wont get the same high protection they think they are getting compared to getting the vaccine

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anyone getting say the indian delta strain this year, and having the vaccine this year but then getting next years virus
1 doesnt get a booster for the newest strain then - 5% low 0.2% severe
1 does get the booster for the newest strain then - 2.5% low 0.1% severe

note
the effectiveness of 1 year since previous infection of the covid strains is better because they are on the same lineage
however mers vs covid even 1 year apart is less effective because covid is a novel/new completely different lineage only maps bac to mers a couple decade prior, which then diverged/branching off from a couple decades ago which then end up as mers on one side and covid on a completely different side

                              humans(mers Alpha)-mersB-mersC-...-mers Zulu
                                   /
             camelA-..-..-camelD
             /
batsA--batsF-..-..-..-..-..-..-..-..-..-batsT..
                                                    \
                                                  pangolin(batT.pangolin A)-..-pangolinD
                                                                                               \
                                                                                                humans(covid Alpha)-..covidDelta
..
and i hope some idiots can wrap their heads around this and learn from it. rather than just be ignorant deniers

Are you worried about the delta virus variant?


Of course I'm worried. Do you think I have no sympathy? All those little bits of virus, trying so hard, and being destroyed by our immune systems? It's just not fair that Fauci and Gates and their crew invented these little almost-lives in the first place. And I can easily understand, how once they realized what they did, that they would want to take down the world of people, just to protect their little creations from ultimate demise and destruction.

Concerns are growing about the delta plus version of the covid virus experts fear that the new wave of the virus could cause a third wave of corona to hit the country prematurely. If the government does not take the right steps yet the rate of infection will increase and it will be difficult to prevent depending on the resistance of the delta plus covid variant the people need to be aware of the government and make arrangements for its cure, but there will be no immediate cause for concern due to the low incidence of infection in the country.

Yes, I'm very concerned. I hope, UK will get it under control and don't spread it to neighbour contries.
If it spreads it to neighbour countries, UK corona deniers should pay damage, especially pay to EU and to scotland to help funding independant movement. Would be nice punishment for corona deniers.

Good luck to UK and stay safe!