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legendary
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April 25, 2019, 07:44:46 PM
#31
Why are USA players banned from participating in Bitcoin casinos? Are there any prohibitions or reasons that prevent you from participating? Cryptocurrency is always one of the decentralized and anonymous platforms so you can use VPN, SSH and some other options to use Gambling platforms.
Mostly regulations if I remember correctly, though you are correct that American gamblers can always use VPNs like Tunnelbear, NordVPN or ExpressVPN to name a few to access restricted sites. A number of people I know use VPNs to gamble in the US and even to trade on platforms like Bitmex, though if you do choose to go this route it's a good idea to have your VPN set to cut off traffic when the connection to the VPN server is lost so your cover isn't blown.

If you do choose to circumvent the rules, though, keep in mind there is a good chance you will not get your money back if you are caught and whatever site you're using takes your coins.
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April 25, 2019, 06:28:49 PM
#30
If you can play in the USA isn't the bitcoin gambling site unfair since every single "big" "good" "fair" casinos do not let USA players play?

It's not the casinos to decide so I won't say casinos are being unfair! It's the local legislative structure due to which US online casinos are not allowing US players.  So it's no unfairness from the casino's part! I believe every US online casinos will be happy to welcone US players because they are considered as the "big pocket' customers!

Also in the era of VPN, who really cares till the time online casinos don't ask for KYC!



Great points sir and Thatis one of the question why US player are prohibited to play online casino gambling taht is unfair for them because they want also to enjoy.
hero member
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April 25, 2019, 06:14:08 PM
#29
If you can play in the USA isn't the bitcoin gambling site unfair since every single "big" "good" "fair" casinos do not let USA players play?
Well, with that logic casinos arent' fair in anyway because even if they block for example usa, you can easily purchase VPN and gamble as you wish. Btw I agree you at some point, when country blocks casinos overally, you should respect their rules but you can't judge whether casino is fair or not by that way, it depends on service they provide, how trustworthy game is and etc.
legendary
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April 25, 2019, 03:21:02 PM
#28
Why are you too worried about such a situation? that's not unfair because maybe the procedure or whatever and there are many other crypto gambling sites that still support all walks of life and countries, VPN is not the main way to solve it because I'm sure it will make you uncomfortable playing, how vague the VPN is it will always be tracked, and like making viruses on all computers and following it with anti-virus itself, so don't expect to use VPN will always be safe, keep calm and find what makes you comfortable on other gambling sites.
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April 25, 2019, 11:43:07 AM
#27
Why are USA players banned from participating in Bitcoin casinos? Are there any prohibitions or reasons that prevent you from participating? Cryptocurrency is always one of the decentralized and anonymous platforms so you can use VPN, SSH and some other options to use Gambling platforms.
legendary
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April 25, 2019, 11:37:48 AM
#26
Blame your government. All US citizens are barred from gambling or playing cards for money online outside the mainland jurisdiction. I think the gambling tycoons of Las Vegas lobbied this to happen. They don't want you to lose your money to foreigners.
sr. member
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April 25, 2019, 11:32:23 AM
#25
If you can play in the USA isn't the bitcoin gambling site unfair since every single "big" "good" "fair" casinos do not let USA players play?

Ive read some posts about this one but im not sure if the US players are banned on crypto casinos or casinos are banned on the US. Either way there is no good about it. One thing is for sure that there is some tention with US and crypto casinos. I am also curioused about this one.

US is aware of crypto and they are serious with regulation, so if you are a citizen, you might be ban from gambling.
Gambling sites are not ban as they can operate in any location, the US government only protect their citizen that is under their jurisdiction, my opinion.
Thank you for the explanation because that is what many of us especially those that are not from USA doesn't understand.  Gambling industry is growing during this crypto era and since USA governments are against it they are trying to protect their citizens from possible loses.
hero member
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April 25, 2019, 07:58:43 AM
#24
If you can play in the USA isn't the bitcoin gambling site unfair since every single "big" "good" "fair" casinos do not let USA players play?

Ive read some posts about this one but im not sure if the US players are banned on crypto casinos or casinos are banned on the US. Either way there is no good about it. One thing is for sure that there is some tention with US and crypto casinos. I am also curioused about this one.

US is aware of crypto and they are serious with regulation, so if you are a citizen, you might be ban from gambling.
Gambling sites are not ban as they can operate in any location, the US government only protect their citizen that is under their jurisdiction, my opinion.
sr. member
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April 25, 2019, 06:58:04 AM
#23
If you can play in the USA isn't the bitcoin gambling site unfair since every single "big" "good" "fair" casinos do not let USA players play?

Ive read some posts about this one but im not sure if the US players are banned on crypto casinos or casinos are banned on the US. Either way there is no good about it. One thing is for sure that there is some tention with US and crypto casinos. I am also curioused about this one.
legendary
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April 11, 2019, 08:21:22 AM
#22
I think people can solve the problem if their country doesn't allow them to play gambling. People will search the way to access the gambling site, and they will find that using a VPN can solve that.
Maybe the USA governments have good things for their people, and they don't want to see people will become addicted to gambling. But with internet on everywhere, people of the USA could still play gambling because if they choose to play online gambling, then that will easy for them to visit on every gambling site with VPN.
There would be always a way on how you would able to play gambling online and with VPN alone which it do really breaks out that wall for you not to play.USA do really have concern into its citizens but they cant completely stop for them to play if they wanted too.Lots of ways on how to jump into their jurisdiction but be careful because if you have been traced that you are violating their
laws then it will really be a headache.
sr. member
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April 11, 2019, 07:38:05 AM
#21
If you can play in the USA isn't the bitcoin gambling site unfair since every single "big" "good" "fair" casinos do not let USA players play?
I think it is the USA laws that prohibite such activities. It is not fair but we can not really blame the casino or gambling sites. I think in future our governments are going to make thinks easy for the citizens in future. 
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April 11, 2019, 07:04:11 AM
#20
Everyone that says to use a VPN doesn't realize using a VPN voids the TOS of every gaming site that blocks USA residents. They do not have to process your withdrawal if you are caugyt?. That is not worth the risk
Yeah, it will be more risky if you are caught in action while your big money was already place on the casinos. I don't know why there's a big restriction on so many gambling sites for the US Citizen but you can still find a good site where you can play well. Not sure if bitvest, bustadice, 777 are free for US citizen you can just try and try until you found a good gambling site where you can play and have fun.
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April 11, 2019, 06:37:59 AM
#19
From the time that the casino tells you that US citizens are not allowed to play, it is up to the gambler if he gambles or not.
Gamblers can use VPN to do so or they can also gamble via DApps that do not require KYC, thus gamblers cannot be identified if they are from the US or not.
legendary
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April 11, 2019, 06:09:11 AM
#18
Everyone that says to use a VPN doesn't realize using a VPN voids the TOS of every gaming site that blocks USA residents. They do not have to process your withdrawal if you are caugyt?. That is not worth the risk
When a certain country been blocked then if you do really eager on playing gambling online then you would really be forced on using it up.You know the risk on the first place.So, once caught then expect on what would possible happen.
hero member
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April 11, 2019, 04:53:13 AM
#17
I think people can solve the problem if their country doesn't allow them to play gambling. People will search the way to access the gambling site, and they will find that using a VPN can solve that.
Maybe the USA governments have good things for their people, and they don't want to see people will become addicted to gambling. But with internet on everywhere, people of the USA could still play gambling because if they choose to play online gambling, then that will easy for them to visit on every gambling site with VPN.
hero member
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April 11, 2019, 02:32:08 AM
#16
Everyone that says to use a VPN doesn't realize using a VPN voids the TOS of every gaming site that blocks USA residents. They do not have to process your withdrawal if you are caugyt?. That is not worth the risk
So that's the risk of it. I don't know I'm sorry I haven't done that, I just think that as a solution to your problem. If so, then it's really unfair to US residents because they can't play bitcoin casinos. Is bitcoin casino banned in US? Or is there any floating reason for this?
No, it isn't what you think. Online crypto casinos or any gambling sites are banned in the US due to its jurisdiction. However, if you're American and not living in US you can technically use the online casinos without worrying that you will be caught. Likewise, afaik, there's still no specific law that make bitcoin gambling illegal, they just simply banned it.

Their are online crypto casinos which are allowing US citizens by following the rules and regulations stated by US Laws, so if any US citizens want to play they have to follow all rules and then play if not when withdrawal is asked they will get all problems. This has been done for the benefit of the US Citizens so that they can be saved by the gambling addiction so that they dont spoil their life and surrounding them life also.
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April 11, 2019, 02:05:04 AM
#15
I don't see why would that be unfair at least to people. It's probably unfair for governments who are trying to stop people from gambling but that's a different discussion. Big and trusted casinos don't accept USA users because they don't want to get into trouble if anything happens, while for new casinos this is not a problem because if something happens and their casino gets closed they don't lose much.
sr. member
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April 11, 2019, 01:52:09 AM
#14
Everyone that says to use a VPN doesn't realize using a VPN voids the TOS of every gaming site that blocks USA residents. They do not have to process your withdrawal if you are caugyt?. That is not worth the risk
So that's the risk of it. I don't know I'm sorry I haven't done that, I just think that as a solution to your problem. If so, then it's really unfair to US residents because they can't play bitcoin casinos. Is bitcoin casino banned in US? Or is there any floating reason for this?
No, it isn't what you think. Online crypto casinos or any gambling sites are banned in the US due to its jurisdiction. However, if you're American and not living in US you can technically use the online casinos without worrying that you will be caught. Likewise, afaik, there's still no specific law that make bitcoin gambling illegal, they just simply banned it.
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April 11, 2019, 01:47:14 AM
#13
Exactly, so every online bitcoin casino that lets USA players play, is breaking the law, so if they are okay with breaking that law, why wouldn't that not be "fair" or pay out jackpots, etc.

The casino is not breaking the law its the player who is breaking their ToS. If a player uses a VPN that player can bypass the casinos IP restriction and casino operator wouldn't know that. Don't blame the casino, bitcoin gamblers know a lot of steps to bypass any restriction that a casino gave them.
hero member
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April 11, 2019, 01:22:34 AM
#12
VPN can be use to bypass restriction, but there's also a risk on that.
It's only the IP that you bypass but in reality you are not allowed to gamble.
I'm just lucky I am not from US and I can gamble in majority of the crypto sites, that makes it more satisfying to me since
with the advent of crypto and the big competition in created in the market, I can gamble anytime at any sites I like.
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