Aren't we killing the market ourselves?

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Quote from: Dacosta Osei-Tutu on December 12, 2018, 12:04:27 AM

Most people are here complaining about the dip in crypto and asking when the market is going to recover, yet they are the same people busily dumping all their holdings hard on exchanges. Who should continue holding and stabilize the market for you? Don't be a selfish investor.

And why then the market. People sell their project assets and reinvest in the market by supporting other projects. The fall of the market is not connected with the fact that people sell their coins after entering the stock exchange.

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Quote from: Dacosta Osei-Tutu on December 12, 2018, 12:04:27 AM

Most people are here complaining about the dip in crypto and asking when the market is going to recover, yet they are the same people busily dumping all their holdings hard on exchanges. Who should continue holding and stabilize the market for you? Don't be a selfish investor.

You can not force a person to hold their assets when he urgently needs money. I am sure that now there are enough investors who hold a lot of coins and are waiting for the market to recover.

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Selling your coins with loss or dumping it is legit. It is the free choice of the market participants what they do with their coins.
The price is declining not because dumping but because lack of demand.

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Quote from: Dacosta Osei-Tutu on December 12, 2018, 12:04:27 AM

Most people are here complaining about the dip in crypto and asking when the market is going to recover, yet they are the same people busily dumping all their holdings hard on exchanges. Who should continue holding and stabilize the market for you? Don't be a selfish investor.

Well said! I agree with every word) If we want crypto market to stay alive, develop and prosper then we must help it! And all we can do is buy and hodl)) That's as simple as that. They say the market rewards those who are patient. So be patient, hold your crypto assets until the moon starts) And become rich when the new highs will be reached!))

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We are doing so by investing in fraud project. If every investor would very carefully check each project, there would not be any fraud ICO, because people would never invest in projects without a great whitepaper and a working product.

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we cannot blame those who throw away their coins when the market is broken like this because all have rights and that is their own choice, if indeed hold makes the market return good it does take a long time. it doesn't matter if they also want to secure their funds so they don't suffer fatal losses. we don't have to blame others as much as this.

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I am think my holding strategy dont killing market.
Market kill peoples who have big amount of moneys, they dumping price on centr exchanges and then rebuy it on otc

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Market of cryptocurrency is always depending on the people of the world.
If we will be having a bullrun or bearseason it is on the peoples hands.
Remember that the price in the market dictates by the demand of the people. if it fall then there are no demands!

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Quote from: nutildah on December 15, 2018, 05:57:45 AM

Quote from: Dacosta Osei-Tutu on December 15, 2018, 05:50:42 AM

Cryptocurrency works with the demand and supply principle so if we really want our tokens to have value, then the best thing to do is to hold and motivate others to also hold.

How does "holding" increase demand? It potentially only decreases supply. The fact is a lot of these coins and tokens, I'd say 90% of them, offer no real utility and only exist because from 2014-2017 crypto was the next big thing. They are ideas marketed to people looking to cash in on the whole crypto craze without any long-term goals or will to follow through with them.

Dumping has always been one of the key causes of drop in coin prices so if we all continue to hold and no one is dumping, I believe it is going to have a positive impact on the market.

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Quote from: Dacosta Osei-Tutu on December 12, 2018, 12:04:27 AM

Most people are here complaining about the dip in crypto and asking when the market is going to recover, yet they are the same people busily dumping all their holdings hard on exchanges. Who should continue holding and stabilize the market for you? Don't be a selfish investor.

Now all buy and sell with a small profit. No holders. That's why we don't see growth. People themselves to blame that there is no growth. Come back!

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Quote from: TrezorMade on December 15, 2018, 06:09:39 AM

We already killed this market, it will take a very long time to recover. Vitalik said that the 1000x days are over. I certainly disagree if bitcoin goes sub 1,000$ (unlikely) there will be more chances to have 1000x returns. The people who have bought massive amounts of bitcoin in the early days and are dumping, those are the people that are guilty. I believe that people who bought bitcoin in 2017-2018 are still holding.

Blame the fake holders from the early days. Most of the people in this forum have sold this year, the bitcointalk forum donation address has spend 8,000 BTC Cheesy

I thought that this forum was made for true holders? LOL

As for me, I am not sure that the usual guys like we are could kill the market. The whales are the biggest players. They have the largest part of the crypto, and they can affect the prices on the market.

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Quote from: Dacosta Osei-Tutu on December 12, 2018, 12:04:27 AM

Most people are here complaining about the dip in crypto and asking when the market is going to recover, yet they are the same people busily dumping all their holdings hard on exchanges. Who should continue holding and stabilize the market for you? Don't be a selfish investor.

In a sense, we are since we jsut dump the coins as long as the list exist. we just throw it out. resulting to cheaper price leaving the investors poorly judgement about the market with its ICO and result low investments level and I think ICO teams should strictly supervise the distribution by stricter KYC.

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I think patience is the key to investment. I have experienced a bearish market in 2014. Many investors are out and they buy back that coins at a fairly high price. So, you can see the market will be a recovery next year. But the current situation is not suitable for long-term investment, wait until the market confirms to bull run.

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First of all, coinmarketcap is killing crypto, as it lists and publishes every type of information, without elementary filter.
And afterwards, published infos are not relevant and therefore changes the real look of this/that project.

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Quote from: Dacosta Osei-Tutu on December 12, 2018, 12:04:27 AM

Most people are here complaining about the dip in crypto and asking when the market is going to recover, yet they are the same people busily dumping all their holdings hard on exchanges. Who should continue holding and stabilize the market for you? Don't be a selfish investor.

We are also keeping the market alive ourselves as well. Crypto markets are not something that is regulated or controlled by any one power. Which means there is nothing that backs up crypto prices neither. When bitcoin worth $20k at its height it was there because people believed the price should be like that and we valued each bitcoin that much.

When bitcoin drops to 3 thousand dollars it is not because outside affects, it is because people with bitcoin sold their bitcoins and there was not enough buyers which means we killed it ourselves. Whatever happens to any crypto currency price ever, it happens because the market (meaning us) decide to make that. There are no government regulations on the price, no one will go to jail for manipulation bitcoin prices. Hence we do kill the market but we also keep it alive at the same time.

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We already killed this market, it will take a very long time to recover. Vitalik said that the 1000x days are over. I certainly disagree if bitcoin goes sub 1,000$ (unlikely) there will be more chances to have 1000x returns. The people who have bought massive amounts of bitcoin in the early days and are dumping, those are the people that are guilty. I believe that people who bought bitcoin in 2017-2018 are still holding.

Blame the fake holders from the early days. Most of the people in this forum have sold this year, the bitcointalk forum donation address has spend 8,000 BTC Cheesy

I thought that this forum was made for true holders? LOL

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Quote from: jpnl0005 on December 13, 2018, 03:35:56 AM

That's a clear case of shooting yourself in the leg cause the complains are everywhere and they are same people saying the market is down yet they dump which is very bad

Do not assume that this is what the market ended. I think there are people who like the market going down like last time. From there they (probably the organizers) are slowly buying into the BTC and altcoin they see potential

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Quote from: Dacosta Osei-Tutu on December 15, 2018, 05:50:42 AM

Cryptocurrency works with the demand and supply principle so if we really want our tokens to have value, then the best thing to do is to hold and motivate others to also hold.

How does "holding" increase demand? It potentially only decreases supply. The fact is a lot of these coins and tokens, I'd say 90% of them, offer no real utility and only exist because from 2014-2017 crypto was the next big thing. They are ideas marketed to people looking to cash in on the whole crypto craze without any long-term goals or will to follow through with them.

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Quote from: Dacosta Osei-Tutu on December 12, 2018, 12:04:27 AM

Most people are here complaining about the dip in crypto and asking when the market is going to recover, yet they are the same people busily dumping all their holdings hard on exchanges. Who should continue holding and stabilize the market for you? Don't be a selfish investor.

And shouldn't the market be stable even in such a situation? It turns out that now there is a real value of coins, and not overvalued due to demand. Then what kind of ideal market can we talk about when no one is engaged in improving their product, and is only waiting for recognition and high prices.

Dacosta Osei-Tutu

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Cryptocurrency works with the demand and supply principle so if we really want our tokens to have value, then the best thing to do is to hold and motivate others to also hold.

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