I don't think this is going to change.
it's just a fact. The threat of death reduces the criminality rate in the US.
It should be implemented in EU to.
Topic: Arizona killer Joseph Wood dies almost two hours after execution begins - page 2. (Read 1920 times)
July 24, 2014, 11:16:27 AM
July 24, 2014, 09:55:04 AM
No state has the right to kill its citizens, having said that, think I'd prefer the firing squad than choking to death slowly for 2 hours.
Almost seems like they're putting down an animal
Almost seems like they're putting down an animal
July 24, 2014, 08:46:29 AM
For me this is really horrible things to hear, really shocked.
I'm from Europe and here we don't have death penalty already half century and consider this as civilization progress.
I guess in America is different mentality and culture but still I really hope they will also stop with this and change their low.
I am not pro death penalty myself, but Europe shares some of the blame in this. If they continued to export the proper drugs for executions they wouldn't have to mix their own experimental cocktails to execute people in the US, possibly resulting in incidents like this. If you notice this kind of incident is increasingly common since the drug export ban from Europe. I'm from Europe and here we don't have death penalty already half century and consider this as civilization progress.
I guess in America is different mentality and culture but still I really hope they will also stop with this and change their low.
EU imposes strict controls on 'execution drug' exports www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-16281016
July 24, 2014, 08:26:22 AM
It's crazy to think that in this day and age, science has still not come up with an efficient (and humane?) way to kill a human being 
I think instead of using experimental drugs, it would be better to go back to old but reliable ways like beheading. It's messy on the outside but at least death is almost instantaneous.
I think instead of using experimental drugs, it would be better to go back to old but reliable ways like beheading. It's messy on the outside but at least death is almost instantaneous.
July 24, 2014, 07:30:31 AM
I assumed most bitcoiners held libertarian beliefs so it's interesting to see the responses in this thread.
And here you go!
Personally, I would strongly insist on death penalty abolition. And the primary reason is not the possibility of executing an innocent one (but this would suffice to ban this form of "punishment"), but the guilt of society in raising a villain. Humans are social beings, and murderers don't come to us from outer space. Putting to death even a proven serial killer means avoiding responsibility on the society part.
July 24, 2014, 06:59:44 AM
For me this is really horrible things to hear, really shocked.
I'm from Europe and here we don't have death penalty already half century and consider this as civilization progress.
I guess in America is different mentality and culture but still I really hope they will also stop with this and change their low.
I'm from Europe and here we don't have death penalty already half century and consider this as civilization progress.
I guess in America is different mentality and culture but still I really hope they will also stop with this and change their low.
July 24, 2014, 06:47:44 AM
As a physician I've spent time trying to undue the damage that assholes like this cause. The only cruel and unusual punishment is the agonizing wait the victim's families have to endure. I say run him over with a car a couple times for good measure.
July 24, 2014, 06:43:01 AM
Witness to a 2-hour Arizona execution: Joseph Wood gasped before he died
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/jul/24/witness-arizona-execution-joseph-wood-died
<< Inside the chamber, I counted 660 gulps. The priest's watch counted 117 minutes. The death penalty was not supposed to go like this. >>
July 24, 2014, 04:16:23 AM
I assumed most bitcoiners held libertarian beliefs so it's interesting to see the responses in this thread.
July 24, 2014, 03:05:53 AM
Fuck him.. He murdered two people. Who cares if he suffered!
July 24, 2014, 03:05:28 AM
Whether they're guilty or not, if they've given up or been captured then you're just an asshole for wanting to kill them.
July 24, 2014, 03:04:26 AM
July 24, 2014, 03:01:07 AM
To me it doesn't matter.
July 24, 2014, 03:00:24 AM
Those where then and notice how I said
In just the last 5 years criminal science has made a drastic leap. There are very few convictions of innocent men now a days. It would have made more sense if this debate had happened 10 years ago.
I think executions are perfectly OK I do not understand why people are so against them. If there is sufficient evidence for their conviction and the crime is deserving out it. They should die and who gives AF if they suffer for 10 minutes did there victims not suffer, are their family members still not suffering. Humans have been executing people since the beginning of time why did we just start beginning to think that we should no longer do it. 
In just the last 5 years criminal science has made a drastic leap. There are very few convictions of innocent men now a days. It would have made more sense if this debate had happened 10 years ago.
July 24, 2014, 02:49:26 AM
I think executions are perfectly OK I do not understand why people are so against them. If there is sufficient evidence for their conviction and the crime is deserving out it. They should die and who gives AF if they suffer for 10 minutes did there victims not suffer, are their family members still not suffering. Humans have been executing people since the beginning of time why did we just start beginning to think that we should no longer do it.
It's quite simple why people are against it petestheman, what if you're wrong? There have been a number of cases I can probably just google and find on the first page of people being executed and then it turns out years later after their deaths they were innocent.
You don't fuck around with someones life just because you're angry and want to take revenge, it's the height of arrogance and a crime in itself.
July 24, 2014, 02:44:30 AM
I think executions are perfectly OK I do not understand why people are so against them. If there is sufficient evidence for their conviction and the crime is deserving out it. They should die and who gives AF if they suffer for 10 minutes did there victims not suffer, are their family members still not suffering. Humans have been executing people since the beginning of time why did we just start beginning to think that we should no longer do it.
July 24, 2014, 01:52:19 AM
The article fails to mention that he was sedated the whole time. Aka sleeping. He was snoring. Not gasping for air.
Either way, the dude murdered two people in cold blood. I would give zero shits if he spent the last minutes of his life suffering. Deserves every bit of it.
Either way, the dude murdered two people in cold blood. I would give zero shits if he spent the last minutes of his life suffering. Deserves every bit of it.
July 24, 2014, 01:14:45 AM
Too bad it only took two hours. He should have suffered more for what he did.
Happy now?
Happy now?
You're a monster!
There ya go.
July 24, 2014, 01:03:50 AM
Too bad it only took two hours. He should have suffered more for what he did.
Happy now?
Happy now?
July 24, 2014, 01:02:43 AM
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Wood and his 29-year-old ex-girlfriend, Debbie Dietz, had been involved in a turbulent relationship for 5 years, which had been marred by numerous breakups and several domestic violent incidents. Debbie was working at a local body shop owned by her family.
On August 7, 1989, Wood walked into the shop and shot Gene Dietz, age 55, in the chest with a .38 calibre revolver, killing him. Gene Dietz's 70-year-old brother was present and tried to stop Wood, but Wood pushed him away and proceeded into another section of the body shop.
Wood went up to Debbie, placed her in some type of hold, and shot her once in the abdomen and once in the chest, killing her.
Wood then fled the building. Two police officers approached Wood and ordered him to drop his weapon. After Wood placed the weapon on the ground, he reached down and picked it up, and pointed it at the officers. The officers fired, striking Wood several times. Wood was transported to a local hospital where he underwent extensive surgery.
On August 7, 1989, Wood walked into the shop and shot Gene Dietz, age 55, in the chest with a .38 calibre revolver, killing him. Gene Dietz's 70-year-old brother was present and tried to stop Wood, but Wood pushed him away and proceeded into another section of the body shop.
Wood went up to Debbie, placed her in some type of hold, and shot her once in the abdomen and once in the chest, killing her.
Wood then fled the building. Two police officers approached Wood and ordered him to drop his weapon. After Wood placed the weapon on the ground, he reached down and picked it up, and pointed it at the officers. The officers fired, striking Wood several times. Wood was transported to a local hospital where he underwent extensive surgery.
There is the mistake. If they would have just let him die from the gunshot wounds it would have been much quicker. Also that cop should have been told he needed to spend more time at the range, very sloppy shooting.
Well done on editing your original reply before anyone called you a monster.
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