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Cubs are ready


WOOT! go cubs go, go cubs go, hey chicago what do you say, they just won the whole fukin thang.
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...you're giving the most outrageous bonus for using Lisk
...you never gave any good reason for that disproportionate advantage over BTC investors apart from liking Dpos...

I think the reasoning is clear-as to anyone who is prepared to spend a few minutes understanding the situation & applying a little reason.
The ARK Team consists of approx 30 members, mostly from the original Lisk testnet delegates from day 1.
Like the other Lisk testnet delegates, they are (still) waiting for Lisk to enable DPOS for delegates voted in to the top 101 positions.
Acquiring extra Lisk during this ARK ICO would provide greater voting power in voting for their Lisk delegates.

This is my take on it. While I may be wrong, this scenario makes sense to me.
Knowing first-hand what the Lisk testnet went through during the first 3 months, and the amount of work potential delegates put in, I have no problem with this.
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Ready for joined ARK ICO with lisk Smiley
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DDing is Due Diligence, which any wise shopper will do before making a purchase.

As stated previously, the 120% bonus reflects the fact that we believe Lisk to be undervalued right now, so we want to accumulate a significant stake for very long term holding. This is very much in line with the twice market value of XCR 2 weeks prior to Lisk ANN offered for Lisk when it they had their sale. As with Crypti, the premium on Lisk reflects the additional value which has been created by the very hard work on code improvements which has gone into it. Valuation can be a subjective evaluation, so, obviously, not everyone is going to agree with it. That is up to each individual to decide when exchanging Lisk for Ark, along with what portion of their holdings.

Looks more like Vega & bitseedmike are doing the communications to the community in a more professional & objective way. Lol.

So will you just hold the LISK you collect as long term investment? Is there any budget on what projects you will fund and how much will be spent? For example with 2000 BTC equivalent (all BTC + LISK + alt coins), which is minimum amount to consider the ICO a success and not refund, what projects can you fund with it?

Also since the team is fairly large, will each get a salary from the collected ICO funds or each one one will get it from the 15% (of 125 million) ARK tokens set aside for the Founder's team?

And will you consider the funds you collect as "donations" or as "investments"?
I can chime in on this. All lisk collected will be held long term. As for budgets, that is an internal number currently as we are working out final numbers. Minimum TEC required amount is 2000BTC total. The team is very large and will receive the 15%. As for salaries, core devs and strategic members will receive a salary. These numbers fall upon the budget and are still being discussed, but at 2000BTC total we are quite confident this project will have enough funding for years to come. Also, investments and donations seem like the same thing when you break them down don't they?
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DDing is Due Diligence, which any wise shopper will do before making a purchase.

As stated previously, the 120% bonus reflects the fact that we believe Lisk to be undervalued right now, so we want to accumulate a significant stake for very long term holding. This is very much in line with the twice market value of XCR 2 weeks prior to Lisk ANN offered for Lisk when it they had their sale. As with Crypti, the premium on Lisk reflects the additional value which has been created by the very hard work on code improvements which has gone into it. Valuation can be a subjective evaluation, so, obviously, not everyone is going to agree with it. That is up to each individual to decide when exchanging Lisk for Ark, along with what portion of their holdings.

Looks more like Vega & bitseedmike are doing the communications to the community in a more professional & objective way. Lol.

So will you just hold the LISK you collect as long term investment? Is there any budget on what projects you will fund and how much will be spent? For example with 2000 BTC equivalent (all BTC + LISK + alt coins), which is minimum amount to consider the ICO a success and not refund, what projects can you fund with it?

Also since the team is fairly large, will each get a salary from the collected ICO funds or each one one will get it from the 15% (of 125 million) ARK tokens set aside for the Founder's team?

And will you consider the funds you collect as "donations" or as "investments"?

Meh, they do it ok.  

They don't have that "Pizzaz" like me but yeah, they're pretty good.  Wink
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Everything you want, is everything you need.
DDing is Due Diligence, which any wise shopper will do before making a purchase.

As stated previously, the 120% bonus reflects the fact that we believe Lisk to be undervalued right now, so we want to accumulate a significant stake for very long term holding. This is very much in line with the twice market value of XCR 2 weeks prior to Lisk ANN offered for Lisk when it they had their sale. As with Crypti, the premium on Lisk reflects the additional value which has been created by the very hard work on code improvements which has gone into it. Valuation can be a subjective evaluation, so, obviously, not everyone is going to agree with it. That is up to each individual to decide when exchanging Lisk for Ark, along with what portion of their holdings.

Looks more like Vega & bitseedmike are doing the communications to the community in a more professional & objective way. Lol.

So will you just hold the LISK you collect as long term investment? Is there any budget on what projects you will fund and how much will be spent? For example with 2000 BTC equivalent (all BTC + LISK + alt coins), which is minimum amount to consider the ICO a success and not refund, what projects can you fund with it?

Also since the team is fairly large, will each get a salary from the collected ICO funds or each one one will get it from the 15% (of 125 million) ARK tokens set aside for the Founder's team?

And will you consider the funds you collect as "donations" or as "investments"?
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two days! woohoo i got my lisk ready!!
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Ready and waith for start , my btc is ready Wink

my lisk is ready too....
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Ready and waith for start , my btc is ready Wink
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DDing is Due Diligence, which any wise shopper will do before making a purchase.

As stated previously, the 120% bonus reflects the fact that we believe Lisk to be undervalued right now, so we want to accumulate a significant stake for very long term holding. This is very much in line with the twice market value of XCR 2 weeks prior to Lisk ANN offered for Lisk when it they had their sale. As with Crypti, the premium on Lisk reflects the additional value which has been created by the very hard work on code improvements which has gone into it. Valuation can be a subjective evaluation, so, obviously, not everyone is going to agree with it. That is up to each individual to decide when exchanging Lisk for Ark, along with what portion of their holdings.
lol, yeah that makes sense Grin
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DDing is Due Diligence, which any wise shopper will do before making a purchase.

As stated previously, the 120% bonus reflects the fact that we believe Lisk to be undervalued right now, so we want to accumulate a significant stake for very long term holding. This is very much in line with the twice market value of XCR 2 weeks prior to Lisk ANN offered for Lisk when it they had their sale. As with Crypti, the premium on Lisk reflects the additional value which has been created by the very hard work on code improvements which has gone into it. Valuation can be a subjective evaluation, so, obviously, not everyone is going to agree with it. That is up to each individual to decide when exchanging Lisk for Ark, along with what portion of their holdings.
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WOW...this project is striking me.....seeing here people such as Vega and Cannabanana gives me De Ja Vu.....Crypti will never die!!..its spirit will continue on and on digesting the following project. soon enough there will be a project that will do an ICO with 200% bonus for ARK.
As a Crypti ICO participant myself I was amazed by the 30% bounty at Lisk, now its 120% for Lisk investors...making guys like Vega and Canna' with *286% on their historical XCR holding.......

Putting sarcasm aside for a minute please explain why this spoused to be a productive coin and not just another XCR inflation? what is there to prevent you guys to invest your funds in your own project and dump it all the second you have a chance?

Dunno, never owned any Crypti tbh.  Don't plan on it either as I don't think there is ongoing development.



Sure you did...even if it was just in order to invest in Lisk...but Vega is a different story i'll tell you that...

Anyway, please refer to my question

If you look in my history, even in lisk thread early on I said I never invested in Crypti.

You can argue with the truth all day long but it just makes you look like crap.



I was hinting you invested in Lisk using Crypti...It doesn't change the fact that your chosen ICO method inflate the same holders over and over...

I saw your previous posts, you can keep on been nasty with those asking hard questions, couldn't care less, but please stick with the question so we can evaluate the potential here

hard questions are one thing but when they are strewn in with obvious FUD remarks, how can anyone take you seriously?  You think I'm mean to people with tough questions but Actually I'm being mean to people who like to think they are being sly and sneak in a suckerpunch with their question.

Read again, I answered all your damn questions.

Actually you didn't.
The OP states you have Crypti founders in your team and you're giving the most outrageous bonus for using Lisk (which is well known as XCR 2.0)
you never gave any good reason for that disproportionate advantage over BTC investors apart from liking Dpos...

A word to the wise is enough. Now you must discern which means wise for you.

Hakuna Matata to you too

That is what I meant, I have to know who I'm talking and with whom I waste my time.

I'm not fuding I'm DDing...
Not questioning 120% bonus is pure stupidity

what is DDing?  Drunk Dialing?

get over yourself, nobody cares about your opinion here, especially an opinion all constructed as FUD. 
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WOW...this project is striking me.....seeing here people such as Vega and Cannabanana gives me De Ja Vu.....Crypti will never die!!..its spirit will continue on and on digesting the following project. soon enough there will be a project that will do an ICO with 200% bonus for ARK.
As a Crypti ICO participant myself I was amazed by the 30% bounty at Lisk, now its 120% for Lisk investors...making guys like Vega and Canna' with *286% on their historical XCR holding.......

Putting sarcasm aside for a minute please explain why this spoused to be a productive coin and not just another XCR inflation? what is there to prevent you guys to invest your funds in your own project and dump it all the second you have a chance?

Dunno, never owned any Crypti tbh.  Don't plan on it either as I don't think there is ongoing development.



Sure you did...even if it was just in order to invest in Lisk...but Vega is a different story i'll tell you that...

Anyway, please refer to my question

If you look in my history, even in lisk thread early on I said I never invested in Crypti.

You can argue with the truth all day long but it just makes you look like crap.



I was hinting you invested in Lisk using Crypti...It doesn't change the fact that your chosen ICO method inflate the same holders over and over...

I saw your previous posts, you can keep on been nasty with those asking hard questions, couldn't care less, but please stick with the question so we can evaluate the potential here

hard questions are one thing but when they are strewn in with obvious FUD remarks, how can anyone take you seriously?  You think I'm mean to people with tough questions but Actually I'm being mean to people who like to think they are being sly and sneak in a suckerpunch with their question.

Read again, I answered all your damn questions.

Actually you didn't.
The OP states you have Crypti founders in your team and you're giving the most outrageous bonus for using Lisk (which is well known as XCR 2.0)
you never gave any good reason for that disproportionate advantage over BTC investors apart from liking Dpos...

A word to the wise is enough. Now you must discern which means wise for you.

Hakuna Matata to you too

That is what I meant, I have to know who I'm talking and with whom I waste my time.

I'm not fuding I'm DDing...
Not questioning 120% bonus is pure stupidity
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