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sr. member
Activity: 252
Merit: 250
March 04, 2014, 07:11:23 PM
Hi,

After doing further research I have discovered that my transaction size was too large for the 0.0001 transaction fee paid. This was a standard transaction fee set by Armory (My bit coin Client) my Transaction size is 9615 (bytes) so that's nearly 10 Kilobytes which means my Fee should have been 10 x the amount I paid.

I am really annoyed that I wasn't automatically prompted to pay this amount when I did the transaction, and now my money is just stuck in the network trying hard to find some miner (or mining pool) that is generous enough to include my cheap transaction instead of other transactions that pay a higher fee per kilobyte.

As such is there anyway to cancel this transaction so that the Bit Coins are returned to my Wallet? I want to be able to re-send this again without double spending, but this time with a higher transaction fee so it will confirm through the network more quickly.

I have been told that it may still confirm but I could be waiting upto 10 days, the merchant cant wait that long to receive his money.
If I had know I would have increased the fee to 0.001 without hesitation... this is really frustrating.

I have been told that there may be a way to remove the transaction from the wallet and the block chain, or Eventually (usually within 2 to 4 days) if the transaction isn't confirmed, it will be dropped from the memory pool of the peers and the coins returned?

I've had this happen with other clients and after 3 days got the coins back.  



Thanks, this is a great relief to know, what happens to the transaction in the block chain, does it just disappear?
sr. member
Activity: 252
Merit: 250
March 04, 2014, 07:09:54 PM
Hi,

After doing further research I have discovered that my transaction size was too large for the 0.0001 transaction fee paid. This was a standard transaction fee set by Armory (My bit coin Client) my Transaction size is 9615 (bytes) so that's nearly 10 Kilobytes which means my Fee should have been 10 x the amount I paid.

I am really annoyed that I wasn't automatically prompted to pay this amount when I did the transaction, and now my money is just stuck in the network trying hard to find some miner (or mining pool) that is generous enough to include my cheap transaction instead of other transactions that pay a higher fee per kilobyte.

As such is there anyway to cancel this transaction so that the Bit Coins are returned to my Wallet? I want to be able to re-send this again without double spending, but this time with a higher transaction fee so it will confirm through the network more quickly.

I have been told that it may still confirm but I could be waiting upto 10 days, the merchant cant wait that long to receive his money.
If I had know I would have increased the fee to 0.001 without hesitation... this is really frustrating.

I have been told that there may be a way to remove the transaction from the wallet and the block chain, or Eventually (usually within 2 to 4 days) if the transaction isn't confirmed, it will be dropped from the memory pool of the peers and the coins returned?


Okay, so you fell into a dead spot in the fee logic.  We recently discovered a bug that causes Armory to under-calculate the fee for certain kinds of transactions.  This was already discovered and fixed for 0.91-beta (will be releasing a proper testing version of it soon).    This affects a very small number of transactions, but it appears you fell into that crack...

As for resolving it... you could consider using Help->Clear All Unconfirmed, then restart Armory (and Bitcoin-Qt/bitcoind, if running it manually).  Then try re-sending the tx.  If it was an offline tx, you will be able to simply rebroadcast (don't need to recreate and re-sign it).  The success of this operation depends on how many peers you are connected to that still remember it. Once there is a critical mass that have forgotten it (maybe 10-20%), your transaction will go through

Thank you I will give this a try, it was an offline transaction and the signed transaction has a low fee of 0.0001 which is what caused the problem in the first place... If I want to increase this to 0.001, is there anyway of doing this without creating and signing a new transaction? Thanks for your help.
legendary
Activity: 2030
Merit: 1000
My money; Our Bitcoin.
March 04, 2014, 06:54:47 PM
Hi,

After doing further research I have discovered that my transaction size was too large for the 0.0001 transaction fee paid. This was a standard transaction fee set by Armory (My bit coin Client) my Transaction size is 9615 (bytes) so that's nearly 10 Kilobytes which means my Fee should have been 10 x the amount I paid.

I am really annoyed that I wasn't automatically prompted to pay this amount when I did the transaction, and now my money is just stuck in the network trying hard to find some miner (or mining pool) that is generous enough to include my cheap transaction instead of other transactions that pay a higher fee per kilobyte.

As such is there anyway to cancel this transaction so that the Bit Coins are returned to my Wallet? I want to be able to re-send this again without double spending, but this time with a higher transaction fee so it will confirm through the network more quickly.

I have been told that it may still confirm but I could be waiting upto 10 days, the merchant cant wait that long to receive his money.
If I had know I would have increased the fee to 0.001 without hesitation... this is really frustrating.

I have been told that there may be a way to remove the transaction from the wallet and the block chain, or Eventually (usually within 2 to 4 days) if the transaction isn't confirmed, it will be dropped from the memory pool of the peers and the coins returned?

I've had this happen with other clients and after 3 days got the coins back.  

legendary
Activity: 1428
Merit: 1093
Core Armory Developer
March 04, 2014, 06:53:28 PM
Hello @etotheipi,

Any plans for BIP38 in Armory anytime soon ?


What is the status of BIP38?  I haven't been following the discussion. 

However, the new wallet files will have a much more flexible design that will make it easy to add new encryption and key-stretching methods, etc (including all the other goodies, like multisig, P2SH, compressed keys, etc).  If BIP38 becomes well-supported, I'll happily add it to the list of supported key-encodings in the new wallet files (or can be added even after the wallet files are done)
legendary
Activity: 1428
Merit: 1093
Core Armory Developer
March 04, 2014, 06:51:08 PM
Hi,

After doing further research I have discovered that my transaction size was too large for the 0.0001 transaction fee paid. This was a standard transaction fee set by Armory (My bit coin Client) my Transaction size is 9615 (bytes) so that's nearly 10 Kilobytes which means my Fee should have been 10 x the amount I paid.

I am really annoyed that I wasn't automatically prompted to pay this amount when I did the transaction, and now my money is just stuck in the network trying hard to find some miner (or mining pool) that is generous enough to include my cheap transaction instead of other transactions that pay a higher fee per kilobyte.

As such is there anyway to cancel this transaction so that the Bit Coins are returned to my Wallet? I want to be able to re-send this again without double spending, but this time with a higher transaction fee so it will confirm through the network more quickly.

I have been told that it may still confirm but I could be waiting upto 10 days, the merchant cant wait that long to receive his money.
If I had know I would have increased the fee to 0.001 without hesitation... this is really frustrating.

I have been told that there may be a way to remove the transaction from the wallet and the block chain, or Eventually (usually within 2 to 4 days) if the transaction isn't confirmed, it will be dropped from the memory pool of the peers and the coins returned?


Okay, so you fell into a dead spot in the fee logic.  We recently discovered a bug that causes Armory to under-calculate the fee for certain kinds of transactions.  This was already discovered and fixed for 0.91-beta (will be releasing a proper testing version of it soon).    This affects a very small number of transactions, but it appears you fell into that crack...

As for resolving it... you could consider using Help->Clear All Unconfirmed, then restart Armory (and Bitcoin-Qt/bitcoind, if running it manually).  Then try re-sending the tx.  If it was an offline tx, you will be able to simply rebroadcast (don't need to recreate and re-sign it).  The success of this operation depends on how many peers you are connected to that still remember it. Once there is a critical mass that have forgotten it (maybe 10-20%), your transaction will go through
legendary
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March 04, 2014, 06:37:51 PM
Hello @etotheipi,

Any plans for BIP38 in Armory anytime soon ?

sr. member
Activity: 252
Merit: 250
March 04, 2014, 06:16:06 PM
Hi,

After doing further research I have discovered that my transaction size was too large for the 0.0001 transaction fee paid. This was a standard transaction fee set by Armory (My bit coin Client) my Transaction size is 9615 (bytes) so that's nearly 10 Kilobytes which means my Fee should have been 10 x the amount I paid.

I am really annoyed that I wasn't automatically prompted to pay this amount when I did the transaction, and now my money is just stuck in the network trying hard to find some miner (or mining pool) that is generous enough to include my cheap transaction instead of other transactions that pay a higher fee per kilobyte.

As such is there anyway to cancel this transaction so that the Bit Coins are returned to my Wallet? I want to be able to re-send this again without double spending, but this time with a higher transaction fee so it will confirm through the network more quickly.

I have been told that it may still confirm but I could be waiting upto 10 days, the merchant cant wait that long to receive his money.
If I had know I would have increased the fee to 0.001 without hesitation... this is really frustrating.

I have been told that there may be a way to remove the transaction from the wallet and the block chain, or Eventually (usually within 2 to 4 days) if the transaction isn't confirmed, it will be dropped from the memory pool of the peers and the coins returned?
legendary
Activity: 3430
Merit: 3079
March 04, 2014, 01:48:17 PM
Hi,

Im using Armory 0.9 Beta on OSX, it seems to sync up with the network and stuff OK, but in the bottom right where it either says "disconnected" or "Connected (288888 blocks)" it flashes very quickly between these two messages, like a couple of times per second.

Sometimes it is predominantly 'disconnected' but I can see it flashing, and sometimes it is 'Connected (288888 blocks)' and it flashes...

Anyone else experience this/able to help me troubleshoot this?

Thanks.

This sounds like your bitcoin Qt has reached -maxconnections and won't allow Armory to become max+1. Maybe try launching Armory the instant that Bitcoin client is launched, as it could be that your router is limiting p2p network connections (this will give Armory the best opportunity to be allocated with one of the p2p connection slots)

Even if that's not it, it would be useful to have some mechanism whereby Armory can take priority over other connections, as I've had this problem myself (solved by changing the network environment to allow more p2p connections to bitcoind). Possibly a point for core development, though.
sr. member
Activity: 302
Merit: 250
March 04, 2014, 12:14:00 PM
Hi,

Im using Armory 0.9 Beta on OSX, it seems to sync up with the network and stuff OK, but in the bottom right where it either says "disconnected" or "Connected (288888 blocks)" it flashes very quickly between these two messages, like a couple of times per second.

Sometimes it is predominantly 'disconnected' but I can see it flashing, and sometimes it is 'Connected (288888 blocks)' and it flashes...

Anyone else experience this/able to help me troubleshoot this?

Thanks.
full member
Activity: 226
Merit: 100
March 04, 2014, 11:29:49 AM
Hi, I made a transaction for 2 BTC this morning and it has still not confirmed, the blockchain says "Estimated Confirmation Time Within 6 Blocks (Medium Priority) and then there is a Confirmation Warning message to say "The Transaction Fee is Less than Recommended"

I did not set the transaction fee 0.0001 BTC it was automatically set when I broadcasted the transaction via Armory.

1) How long will I have to wait for the confirmations to show?
2) Can I manually change the transaction fee for future payments through the Armory client?

Thanks

Yes you can change it. Somewhere under settings or tools. You may have to go to expert mode.
sr. member
Activity: 252
Merit: 250
March 04, 2014, 10:53:28 AM
Hi, I made a transaction for 2 BTC this morning and it has still not confirmed, the blockchain says "Estimated Confirmation Time Within 6 Blocks (Medium Priority) and then there is a Confirmation Warning message to say "The Transaction Fee is Less than Recommended"

I did not set the transaction fee 0.0001 BTC it was automatically set when I broadcasted the transaction via Armory.

1) How long will I have to wait for the confirmations to show?
2) Can I manually change the transaction fee for future payments through the Armory client?

Thanks
hero member
Activity: 742
Merit: 500
Circle gets the Square
March 04, 2014, 09:38:59 AM
Fantastic work on 0.90... Not had a single problem with it, it's been brilliant. Wouldn't trust BTC to anything else anymore.

Hey, are you talking about the testing version posted 2 weeks ago (0.90.99)?   Or the 0.90-beta on the website?  Either way, glad to hear some positive feedback, just wanted to get clarity on it.

Currently using 0.90-beta. I will most likely stay with this version for the foreseeable as it does literally everything I need it to do.

Will be tipping you some point soon!

Thanks again.
legendary
Activity: 1428
Merit: 1093
Core Armory Developer
March 03, 2014, 10:54:09 PM
Fantastic work on 0.90... Not had a single problem with it, it's been brilliant. Wouldn't trust BTC to anything else anymore.

Hey, are you talking about the testing version posted 2 weeks ago (0.90.99)?   Or the 0.90-beta on the website?  Either way, glad to hear some positive feedback, just wanted to get clarity on it.
hero member
Activity: 742
Merit: 500
Circle gets the Square
March 03, 2014, 07:39:02 PM
Fantastic work on 0.90... Not had a single problem with it, it's been brilliant. Wouldn't trust BTC to anything else anymore.
legendary
Activity: 1428
Merit: 1093
Core Armory Developer
March 03, 2014, 06:10:11 PM
If I create a transaction (on armory version >= 0.91) to spend coins to a P2SH address, will an offline v0.90 armory installation be able to sign it?

Good question, I haven't tried it!  My guess is:  yes, but the interface may not be all that useful, probably "[Non-standard address]" instead of the address string you're expecting.  That's something I'll have to investigate... (feel free to try it and tell me what happens)
hero member
Activity: 527
Merit: 500
March 03, 2014, 06:03:59 PM
If I create a transaction (on armory version >= 0.91) to spend coins to a P2SH address, will an offline v0.90 armory installation be able to sign it?
legendary
Activity: 1904
Merit: 1007
March 03, 2014, 05:13:40 PM
How hard would it be to make it support multiple instances?

It can be done, but it's made intentionally difficult, because running two instances of Armory using the same wallets is guaranteed to corrupt your wallets.  And of course, all the extra data... most of the time the user simply double-clicked to open it again, not realizing it's already open.

If you really want to do it for whatever reason, then you can open the second Armory instance using

Code:
--datadir=/path/to/second/armory --interport=7890

Interport can be any unused port, and is only for detecting multiple instances (which is why you must change it to run multiple).  You must change both datadir and interport at the same time if you don't want to corrupt your existing wallets.



Thank you. Nice and "user easy" way of detecting multiple instances Smiley
legendary
Activity: 1260
Merit: 1000
World Class Cryptonaire
March 02, 2014, 09:34:06 PM
etothepie could you help me fix my armory?  my armory is stuck at Synchronizing with Network 99% 0 blocks and in the bottom right hand corner it says offline. I've ran Bitcoin-QT and the entire blockchain is downloaded and is up to date.

Fixed my problem, explained it here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=495487.new#new
legendary
Activity: 3430
Merit: 3079
March 02, 2014, 11:22:39 AM
Don't know if this the right place to ask, but "Does Armory not support multisig addresses to send BTC to?"

When I try to send BTC this address (which is a multisig address): 39wbuEjp3mfFAB3bTjmkFB69XAmKYRMq5i ,then I get error "You have entered one invalid address..." and after that "Address1 is for the wrong network..."
Armory is version 0.90-beta on 64bit Kubuntu12.04

This should work with 0.91. Key feature is "enabling P2SH addresses".
jr. member
Activity: 56
Merit: 7
March 02, 2014, 07:24:38 AM
Don't know if this the right place to ask, but "Does Armory not support multisig addresses to send BTC to?"

When I try to send BTC this address (which is a multisig address): 39wbuEjp3mfFAB3bTjmkFB69XAmKYRMq5i ,then I get error "You have entered one invalid address..." and after that "Address1 is for the wrong network..."
Armory is version 0.90-beta on 64bit Kubuntu12.04
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