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newbie
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April 27, 2013, 03:16:00 AM
#21
Yeah I think so. Looking for donations. I inquired about the "manual" and got no response.

I note with interest, that my question from last week, about performance has gone unanswered too.

It does seem fishy that there has been on real response.

K

Smiley
newbie
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April 26, 2013, 09:51:29 PM
#20
Yeah I think so. Looking for donations. I inquired about the "manual" and got no response.
newbie
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April 25, 2013, 02:47:17 PM
#19
So, what skills would I need to make this?

BGA soldering
Basic electrical understanding
..

Did you make a working/workable software for your design or is it just a library?
What exactly should we know (software wise) to be able to use this ASIC?
Does your design include PCB designs? Preferably in cad/eagle/etc format so we can use them to order boards.
Does your notes include a part list "DIY style" or will we have to sift through pages of notes and write that list ourselves.
What chips do you have?
What computing power should we expect from a single unit?
I assume it would be usable for any hashing (BTC, TRC, PPC, not LTC obviously)
Discounts on bulk orders (2,3,4 chips..)?
Is it a USB device?

Anyone can vouch for SCASICS?




Building a rig takes more work than you think. I am a B.S. EE/CS and I can tell you that if you don't have a Open Source Project lined up for you to show you how to build it and program it, it requires a LOT of work.

To design a full system you basically need:
  • A background in embedded design with microcontroller/microprocessors or FPGA's
  • PCB Design (Eagle, Altium, etc.)
  • Xilinx and VHDL/HDL (Hardware description language).
  • An understanding of a system datapath for a given architecture
  • Digital and Analog Design.

For the most part.

And basically any programming and electronics analysis as well as other similar skills will further help you. Soldering a few hundred chips by hand is tedious, and we're talking SMT. If I could get a reflow oven to use, I would do it in a heartbeat. For now however, I just have a hot air rework station.

If you don't have any experience in hardware design, systems programming or the like. Don't even think you can design a system. What most of you are asking for is for somebody to create a Open Source design (which will take time) and provide you with a list of parts so that you can just build it.

So adomaz, I'm not quite sure I can vouch for him yet because he's very broad with his description. Plus when I see a serious thread like building a DIY ASIC in the Newbie thread, I get a little concerned. Not because people who are just joining the forums don't know what they're doing, but it's where a lot of scam posts begin.

However he mentions he is offering a manual, so if he does produce a manual and I look over it, I can give you an answer.

I agree with you that without a some level of information on what is the general system design this looks like a scam for newbies.
hero member
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April 20, 2013, 05:13:27 PM
#18
Also interested, please PM me.
newbie
Activity: 28
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April 20, 2013, 05:05:21 PM
#17
So, what skills would I need to make this?

BGA soldering
Basic electrical understanding
..

Did you make a working/workable software for your design or is it just a library?
What exactly should we know (software wise) to be able to use this ASIC?
Does your design include PCB designs? Preferably in cad/eagle/etc format so we can use them to order boards.
Does your notes include a part list "DIY style" or will we have to sift through pages of notes and write that list ourselves.
What chips do you have?
What computing power should we expect from a single unit?
I assume it would be usable for any hashing (BTC, TRC, PPC, not LTC obviously)
Discounts on bulk orders (2,3,4 chips..)?
Is it a USB device?

Anyone can vouch for SCASICS?




Building a rig takes more work than you think. I am a B.S. EE/CS and I can tell you that if you don't have a Open Source Project lined up for you to show you how to build it and program it, it requires a LOT of work.

To design a full system you basically need:
  • A background in embedded design with microcontroller/microprocessors or FPGA's
  • PCB Design (Eagle, Altium, etc.)
  • Xilinx and VHDL/HDL (Hardware description language).
  • An understanding of a system datapath for a given architecture
  • Digital and Analog Design.

For the most part.

And basically any programming and electronics analysis as well as other similar skills will further help you. Soldering a few hundred chips by hand is tedious, and we're talking SMT. If I could get a reflow oven to use, I would do it in a heartbeat. For now however, I just have a hot air rework station.

If you don't have any experience in hardware design, systems programming or the like. Don't even think you can design a system. What most of you are asking for is for somebody to create a Open Source design (which will take time) and provide you with a list of parts so that you can just build it.

So adomaz, I'm not quite sure I can vouch for him yet because he's very broad with his description. Plus when I see a serious thread like building a DIY ASIC in the Newbie thread, I get a little concerned. Not because people who are just joining the forums don't know what they're doing, but it's where a lot of scam posts begin.

However he mentions he is offering a manual, so if he does produce a manual and I look over it, I can give you an answer.
newbie
Activity: 57
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April 20, 2013, 03:59:24 PM
#16
Hi SCASICS. When You will end Your beta asic built by chips ? Overheating with good idea and porject its not problem. Most important good paste and fine project of radiator with heatpipe + fan.
newbie
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April 20, 2013, 03:53:59 PM
#15
How do you propose to make a miner with that kind of performance, it seems to be orders of magnitude faster than the other ASIC miners?

I am not having a go, I am genuinely interested.

 Smiley
newbie
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April 20, 2013, 03:51:21 PM
#14
I wish that was so, just the basics of skill/s are physics, network programing expertise, C compiling, EE and EE design software usage, familiarity of semiconductor technology. Soldering and wam-bam is not the case. PCB design is very hard work Sad
newbie
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April 20, 2013, 02:43:57 PM
#13
I want one! But then I'm not good at soldering tiny parts...
newbie
Activity: 27
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April 20, 2013, 10:17:33 AM
#12
I PMed him a little bit, this is what he said:


All your questions are in my organized notes and data in pdf. Many times I have ordered parts from radio shack even. Some parts are cents some are under $10, first prototype was not pretty due to trial and errors. You will need EE software to test design as well as ohm meter, micro solder kit, ect. Software wise gotta be decent at linux redhat . I did keep notes as I went along for my future replications, never thought I would share it one day. Please post in the forum due to many emails asking same questions, It would streamline information.

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newbie
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April 19, 2013, 10:10:04 PM
#11
SCAmASICS.

Hi TradeFortress why you think this is a scam?
newbie
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April 19, 2013, 10:07:54 PM
#10
I'm intereseted I also own some Avalon chips and I think it would be a great idea to give a general introduction of the main components of an ASIC miner. What do you think?

Hello there, what do you have in mind? Please input your thoughts and ideas. If you have questions please mail me.
Cheers

Well Im curious about what are the general guidelines to build aa DIY ASIC machine. I understand there are the basic components: the blades holding the ASIC chips, the controller unit based on FPGA and the board that runs the mining software and handles IO with the network. Am I right?
newbie
Activity: 6
Merit: 0
April 19, 2013, 08:09:11 PM
#9
If you are just getting started just now on design, looking at over a YEAR in finished product minimum, not considering troubleshoot, manufacture flaws, flashed software and its coding, plus the 2 months minimum of waiting list. Smiley The reason Butterflylabs is having trouble over a year is all of these reasons, plus they took in orders when they did not have a manufacturing system foundation. At the  moment Butterflylabs are having issue with overheating with all of its product and do not know where the issue is coming from no matter what they post publicly. The reason being the 1,500,000 Ghash/s machine is being divided into two machines of 750,000 Ghash/s . This is going to take a very long time they have to physically redesign, manufacture, recode, and re-troubleshoot. The same goes for the smaller ones, again overheat issue cause by reasons they do not know. Which in essence is almost false promises and changed due dates, over n over n over.
vip
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April 19, 2013, 07:55:10 PM
#8
SCAmASICS.
newbie
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April 19, 2013, 07:54:31 PM
#7
The most difficult part is emulation and prototyping which is only designed by an EE, I had to work on the IO system for over 6 months. Chips are easy to obtain compared to where they go and what to do with. There are a few engineering softwares that are capable doing this sort of design, reading the schematics is very important as well as micro soldering. IO system is a whole different story, which required about 3 months of developing. At the moment the hash rate of the four PCB designs total to 130,000 Hash/s yielding with optimum temp and share rate.
sr. member
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April 19, 2013, 07:38:44 PM
#6
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I am selling the chips for 1 BTC, which is more than fair.

That depends on your idea of fair. In another thread we're putting together a group buy for the same thing. Going price: About 2 BTC for 25 of those chips.
newbie
Activity: 18
Merit: 0
April 19, 2013, 07:38:10 PM
#5
I'm intereseted I also own some Avalon chips and I think it would be a great idea to give a general introduction of the main components of an ASIC miner. What do you think?

Hello there, what do you have in mind? Please input your thoughts and ideas. If you have questions please mail me.
Cheers
newbie
Activity: 6
Merit: 0
April 19, 2013, 07:32:27 PM
#4
Hello there, what do you have in mind? Please input your thoughts and ideas. If you have questions please mail me.
Cheers
newbie
Activity: 27
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April 19, 2013, 02:44:47 PM
#3
Go ahead and PM me.
newbie
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April 19, 2013, 02:25:42 PM
#2
Im interested!
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