ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It - page 117.

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Quote from: Blazed on December 06, 2014, 05:02:07 PM

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fail 1 - fail fail, fail fail fail fail fail fail + fail fail fail fail fail fail fail fail
fail 2 - fail
fail 3 - fail
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fail - fail fail fail fail fail fail fail fail fail...fail fail fail?

fail fail fail/fail, fail fail fail fail, fail fail fail fail... fail fail fail fail fail fail?

Why do people even post here? Some people have diversified portfolios. Sometimes investments work, sometimes they don't. Stahp.

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Quote from: NotLambchop on December 06, 2014, 04:52:26 PM

You know how some people have trouble dealing with grief? Mothers keeping the kid's room untouched for years after a child dies, imagining the kid's going to come home any time now, that sort of thing?

This thread.

lol it is amazing how these guys still have faith after everything. If this was ANY other company people would have bailed long a go. I never invested at IPO or paid much attention to AM since their miners back then were so over priced. I just do not see what makes this company so good to people? I can not wrap my head around it...

Gen 1 - Over priced, but first to market en masse + made a few people rich with crazy divs
Gen 2 - Never launched
Gen 3 - Did not perform as expected
Gen 4 - Questionable + Very strong competition these days
AMHash - Unknown at this point

They lack PR/Marketing, Prisma was not well received, not much communication with investors and customers... What do they do well exactly?

Edited to not sound so bad...

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You know how some people have trouble dealing with grief? Mothers keeping the kid's room untouched for years after a child dies, imagining the kid's going to come home any time now, that sort of thing?

This thread.

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Quote from: Mabsark on December 05, 2014, 07:08:37 PM

I posted that earlier but I deleted the post. I asked AMhash if they were reselling AMHash and was told they were not. The reddit post doesn't mention AMHash though, just ASICminer. So, there might be such a deal in place that AMHash doesn't know about. I thought it best to delete the post until it can be clarified by FC.

Good luck with that.

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Crypto is the separation of Power and State.

Quote from: vortex1878 on December 05, 2014, 06:45:42 PM

Quote from: iCEBREAKER on December 04, 2014, 05:59:45 PM

Quote from: hdbuck on December 04, 2014, 03:30:27 AM

i think icebreaker is a HF shill.

...said the guy with a HUGE CHEESY ASICMINER PRISMA SIGNATURE AD...

Grin

And? Care to elaborate why hdbuck's signature has anything to do with you being a HF shill, fucktard?

You really are dense if you don't see the irony in someone with a HUGE CHEESY SHILL SIG calling someone else (who do not have such a sig) a "shill."

The Prisma is reviled as a POS. How can anyone honestly seek to inflict then on others?

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No wonder then I couldn't find the post saying it Cheesy

EDIT: would like a confirmation/denial from FC though. Usually he makes a confirming post if a thread is started on here by the reseller. Might be in the chinese subforum but alas I don't speak chinese Wink

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Quote from: Gws24 on December 05, 2014, 07:03:23 PM

Quote from: sharky101 on December 05, 2014, 03:43:59 AM

More cloud mining
http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2oci4f/pahash1_salestopped_800t_only_in_3_dayswhat_a/

Thought I read somewhere that the site in that reddit post is a scam...

I posted that earlier but I deleted the post. I asked AMhash if they were reselling AMHash and was told they were not. The reddit post doesn't mention AMHash though, just ASICminer. So, there might be such a deal in place that AMHash doesn't know about. I thought it best to delete the post until it can be clarified by FC.

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Quote from: sharky101 on December 05, 2014, 03:43:59 AM

More cloud mining
http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2oci4f/pahash1_salestopped_800t_only_in_3_dayswhat_a/

Thought I read somewhere that the site in that reddit post is a scam...

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Quote from: iCEBREAKER on December 04, 2014, 05:59:45 PM

Quote from: hdbuck on December 04, 2014, 03:30:27 AM

i think icebreaker is a HF shill.

...said the guy with a HUGE CHEESY ASICMINER PRISMA SIGNATURE AD...

Grin

And? Care to elaborate why hdbuck's signature has anything to do with you being a HF shill, fucktard?

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More cloud mining
http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2oci4f/pahash1_salestopped_800t_only_in_3_dayswhat_a/

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Quote from: jjdub7 on December 04, 2014, 03:36:11 AM

Quote from: hdbuck on December 04, 2014, 03:30:27 AM

Quote from: rudi on December 04, 2014, 03:26:12 AM

I think Icebreaker was talking about gen5.

i think icebreaker is a HF shill.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.9625227

Yup...too much risk buying a "proprietary" design from a defunct business. For all anyone knows, they could sell it to multiple parties without any regulation (unless there are actually patents and lawyers involved, though again, HF's balance sheet would indicate otherwise).

On a side note...it would appear as though someone is testing/sprint burning ~30 PH/s at odd intervals to directly impact (or even directly aim to set) the difficulty, and perhaps the fiat price. There's no way those two enormous booms in hashrate centered around the 1st of November and now December have been due to aggregate luck alone.

I don't think anyone just turns on and off 30 ph

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Quote from: hdbuck on December 04, 2014, 03:30:27 AM

i think icebreaker is a HF shill.

...said the guy with a HUGE CHEESY ASICMINER PRISMA SIGNATURE AD...

Grin

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Quote from: MrTeal on December 04, 2014, 09:35:20 AM

Quote from: jjdub7 on December 04, 2014, 03:36:11 AM

Quote from: hdbuck on December 04, 2014, 03:30:27 AM

Quote from: rudi on December 04, 2014, 03:26:12 AM

I think Icebreaker was talking about gen5.

i think icebreaker is a HF shill.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.9625227

Yup...too much risk buying a "proprietary" design from a defunct business. For all anyone knows, they could sell it to multiple parties without any regulation (unless there are actually patents and lawyers involved, though again, HF's balance sheet would indicate otherwise).

On a side note...it would appear as though someone is testing/sprint burning ~30 PH/s at odd intervals to directly impact (or even directly aim to set) the difficulty, and perhaps the fiat price. There's no way those two enormous booms in hashrate centered around the 1st of November and now December have been due to aggregate luck alone.

Of course it could be luck. You're talking about 504 block luck being ~6-7% higher than the 2014 block average. That's high, but hardly impossibly or even unlikely.

Perhaps you're right...it wasn't like the price swung either way to compensate, which assuming we're at an aggregate network marginal revenue = cost point, it should have (at least in a non-stochastic model, which...right).

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Quote from: jjdub7 on December 04, 2014, 03:36:11 AM

Quote from: hdbuck on December 04, 2014, 03:30:27 AM

Quote from: rudi on December 04, 2014, 03:26:12 AM

I think Icebreaker was talking about gen5.

i think icebreaker is a HF shill.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.9625227

Yup...too much risk buying a "proprietary" design from a defunct business. For all anyone knows, they could sell it to multiple parties without any regulation (unless there are actually patents and lawyers involved, though again, HF's balance sheet would indicate otherwise).

On a side note...it would appear as though someone is testing/sprint burning ~30 PH/s at odd intervals to directly impact (or even directly aim to set) the difficulty, and perhaps the fiat price. There's no way those two enormous booms in hashrate centered around the 1st of November and now December have been due to aggregate luck alone.

Of course it could be luck. You're talking about 504 block luck being ~6-7% higher than the 2014 block average. That's high, but hardly impossibly or even unlikely.

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Quote from: hdbuck on December 04, 2014, 03:30:27 AM

Quote from: rudi on December 04, 2014, 03:26:12 AM

I think Icebreaker was talking about gen5.

i think icebreaker is a HF shill.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.9625227

Yup...too much risk buying a "proprietary" design from a defunct business. For all anyone knows, they could sell it to multiple parties without any regulation (unless there are actually patents and lawyers involved, though again, HF's balance sheet would indicate otherwise).

On a side note...it would appear as though someone is testing/sprint burning ~30 PH/s at odd intervals to directly impact (or even directly aim to set) the difficulty, and perhaps the fiat price. There's no way those two enormous booms in hashrate centered around the 1st of November and now December have been due to aggregate luck alone.

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Quote from: rudi on December 04, 2014, 03:26:12 AM

I think Icebreaker was talking about gen5.

i think icebreaker is a HF shill.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.9625227

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I think Icebreaker was talking about gen5.

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Quote from: klondike_bar on December 03, 2014, 10:10:24 PM

why buy someone else's IP?

The story given by asicminer was that the current gen of chips effectively came in at half of expectations, but for a reason they identified - presumably the next gen will be the same architecture but at the previously-promised ~0.4w/GH

The latest info on gen 4 is that samples will be in hand around Dec 16th and have the following specs:

Quote from: amhash on November 28, 2014, 01:35:30 AM

Process: tsmc 28nm hpc

Package: fclga (5mm x 5mm)

Normal Mode:
0.7v vdd
6gh/s per chip
8gh/s-12gh/s per chip for mass production
0.343w/g on chip
~0.3w/g on chip for mass production

Low Power Mode:
0.55v vdd
4.5gh/s per chip
6gh/s-9gh/s per chip for mass production
0.225w/g on chip
~0.2w/g on chip for mass production

The schedule of BE300 producing: First batch production will be done next Feb.

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Quote from: armedmilitia on December 03, 2014, 07:47:13 PM

Quote from: MichaelBliss on December 03, 2014, 05:29:38 PM

Quote from: iCEBREAKER on December 03, 2014, 05:11:33 PM

Given AM's disasters with their chip/Prisma/Tube, let's hope they put in the winning bid at the HashFast IP auction tomorrow.

As a direct and indirect shareholder, I would hate to see KnC/BitFury/Cointerra beat them to 4th gen 16nm FinFET ASICS, especially when they have to opportunity to catch up by simply buying HF's GN2 design at a discount.

That would be a crazy twist of events. It's not going to happen, I think we both know that...

I'm interested. Why don't you think it will happen? You never know... Wink

why buy someone else's IP?

The story given by asicminer was that the current gen of chips effectively came in at half of expectations, but for a reason they identified - presumably the next gen will be the same architecture but at the previously-promised ~0.4w/GH

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Quote from: Dexter770221 on December 02, 2014, 11:21:27 AM

Some action regarding bad Prismas:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.9716607

Good to hear they are compensating users with defective units
Kind of sad that there were so many that needed compensating.

Hmm so in AMhash no new units per a week greater dividend split

Next week

Quote from: havelock on December 03, 2014, 09:20:30 AM

AMHASH3 will be the same price as AMHASH2.

Bonus GH/s Units will be provided to large buyers of the AMHASH3 Fund.

Official announcement today.

Guess its ok

As an aside difficulty went down for the first time in 2 YEARS

Bitcoin mining difficulty has decreased for the first time in two years. The minor 0.62% drop was observed yesterday and currently stands at 40,007,470,271, down from 40,300,030,238.

The difficulty level crossed the 40,000,000,000 mark late last month, peaking after several consecutive quarters of rapid growth. The 1,000,000,000 milestone was passed last December, while the last difficulty drop was recorded back in late 2012.
https://www.coindesk.com/bitcoin-price-decline-sparks-rare-mining-difficulty-drop/

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