Topic: ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It - page 232. (Read 3917468 times)
August 24, 2014, 09:30:11 AM
Lots are adding hashing power...Bitfury has a new 20 MW facility, BFL (lol I know, but they do have gear now), Bitmain, SP-Tech is pumping out 4TH rigs, the list goes on. I would assume that AM has a chuck of the recent hash power, but definitely not all or most of it.
August 24, 2014, 08:43:58 AM
these three carry the highest probability
Why is this?
They're the only ones that demonstrate both the "since mid-July" timeframe (the two addresses) and the ~20PH earmark that friedcat had mentioned back in the beginning of the summer months. Again, the total solo+franchised hashrate will probably be the result of a combination of sources coming online along different timeframes. I'm saying that these addresses fulfill the characteristics we've been waiting for/anticipating for months. It could be equivalently true that friedcat+franchisees control a smaller share of the network, but keep in mind that the node at 193.187.79.76has risen almost in exact correlation with this additional hashrate from over this period.
Who else is putting that kind of hashing power online right now, and with what hardware? I realize my speculation is inductive, but I'd be interested to see what counter-points the group might be able to offer.
August 24, 2014, 08:28:07 AM
these three carry the highest probability
Why is this?
August 24, 2014, 07:47:51 AM
193.187.79.76 has relayed nearly 40 blocks over the past 4 days. Along with the 1BX5YoL and 1AcAj9p addresses, it remains a strong candidate for ASICMINER's solo-mining. It could also a combination of two, all three or a different combination of IPs, though these three carry the highest probability, especially considering that franchised mining ops may use different addresses and IPs.
August 24, 2014, 05:26:32 AM
Currently:
BitCrane-Tech: 1 @ 0.30
sunxiaoxiao : 1 @ 0.30
chairforce1 : 1 @ 0.30
Empty : 2
BitCrane-Tech: 1 @ 0.30
sunxiaoxiao : 1 @ 0.30
chairforce1 : 1 @ 0.30
Empty : 2
If anybody would like to contribute toward this PM me.
August 24, 2014, 04:30:34 AM
Whoever ran the sig campaign is kind of an idiot....
Started skipping over higher ranked forum members because those spots were "full" instead of letting those people in and having less spots for lower members. Choosing a full member over a Hero member... when you obviously value hero members more (they are paid more) is idiotic. I tried to explain how it was stupid several times, but the language barrier prevented that.
Still have it in my sig though because, well I am a share holder... but sucks I should have gotten something for it and was passed up.
Started skipping over higher ranked forum members because those spots were "full" instead of letting those people in and having less spots for lower members. Choosing a full member over a Hero member... when you obviously value hero members more (they are paid more) is idiotic. I tried to explain how it was stupid several times, but the language barrier prevented that.
Still have it in my sig though because, well I am a share holder... but sucks I should have gotten something for it and was passed up.
I think sig campaign is the action of someone who doesn't know what else to do. Online advertising is a field of expertise all to itself. If they wanted to do it most effectively they would hire an ad man/marketing guy, at least consult. The right PR person would probably be able to handle it. Even google adsense (!)
I get the feeling FC is so focused on his area of expertise (chip design) and so proud of his results (rightly so) that he believes the product will mostly sell itself. Engineers, sometimes to narrow of focus...
I'm of two minds regarding advertising though. It could be a huge waste of money if not done correctly. I'm no advertising guru, but concepts like maximum exposure and targeted audiences I can understand.
With that, I'm off to inhabit some other subs to spread the message around a little and hopefully earn my keep!
August 24, 2014, 03:42:51 AM
This should be covered by operating costs.
You're an operating cost.
+1
Ad campaign is unnecessary - what are we doing, buying team members?
I think he should have considered making the ad campaign initially available to shareholders only. This would at least give them a little income while waiting for the dividend payments to kick in.
Yes, all of us who have signed up to the sig campaign are advertising costs. I don't feel bad about it. Problem with sig campaign is limited audience (and when posting in AM threads : preaching to the choir)
A properly managed ad campaign that targeted a larger amount of the internet and links that led to better designed sales sights would be money better spent IMO. I will still take the btc offered for my sig. If FC is smart he's using the traffic stats from this campaign to strategize for a real one soon.
I really wonder if his focus is so much on consumer sales though? He doesn't seem very good at it, maybe Chinese language internet market works differently regarding this?
Whoever ran the sig campaign is kind of an idiot....
Started skipping over higher ranked forum members because those spots were "full" instead of letting those people in and having less spots for lower members. Choosing a full member over a Hero member... when you obviously value hero members more (they are paid more) is idiotic. I tried to explain how it was stupid several times, but the language barrier prevented that.
Still have it in my sig though because, well I am a share holder... but sucks I should have gotten something for it and was passed up.
Started skipping over higher ranked forum members because those spots were "full" instead of letting those people in and having less spots for lower members. Choosing a full member over a Hero member... when you obviously value hero members more (they are paid more) is idiotic. I tried to explain how it was stupid several times, but the language barrier prevented that.
Still have it in my sig though because, well I am a share holder... but sucks I should have gotten something for it and was passed up.
Obviously you can't blame those leasing sig space for working the campaign, but friedcat should keep stats between sales drives on how effective the ad "dollars" are in campaigns like this just to make sure its generating the marginal revenue to justify running it.
August 24, 2014, 01:39:21 AM
Whoever ran the sig campaign is kind of an idiot....
Started skipping over higher ranked forum members because those spots were "full" instead of letting those people in and having less spots for lower members. Choosing a full member over a Hero member... when you obviously value hero members more (they are paid more) is idiotic. I tried to explain how it was stupid several times, but the language barrier prevented that.
Still have it in my sig though because, well I am a share holder... but sucks I should have gotten something for it and was passed up.
Started skipping over higher ranked forum members because those spots were "full" instead of letting those people in and having less spots for lower members. Choosing a full member over a Hero member... when you obviously value hero members more (they are paid more) is idiotic. I tried to explain how it was stupid several times, but the language barrier prevented that.
Still have it in my sig though because, well I am a share holder... but sucks I should have gotten something for it and was passed up.
August 23, 2014, 11:49:27 PM
This should be covered by operating costs.
You're an operating cost.
+1
Ad campaign is unnecessary - what are we doing, buying team members?
I think he should have considered making the ad campaign initially available to shareholders only. This would at least give them a little income while waiting for the dividend payments to kick in.
Yes, all of us who have signed up to the sig campaign are advertising costs. I don't feel bad about it. Problem with sig campaign is limited audience (and when posting in AM threads : preaching to the choir)
A properly managed ad campaign that targeted a larger amount of the internet and links that led to better designed sales sights would be money better spent IMO. I will still take the btc offered for my sig. If FC is smart he's using the traffic stats from this campaign to strategize for a real one soon.
I really wonder if his focus is so much on consumer sales though? He doesn't seem very good at it, maybe Chinese language internet market works differently regarding this?
August 23, 2014, 11:44:26 PM
8btc will conduct an exclusive interview with FC/Asicminer lately.
Please leave your questions for FC/Asicminer in this--> thread.
that was today right, anyone know what time?Please leave your questions for FC/Asicminer in this--> thread.
August 23, 2014, 10:22:37 PM
8btc will conduct an exclusive interview with FC/Asicminer lately.
Please leave your questions for FC/Asicminer in this--> thread.
that was today right, anyone know what time? Please leave your questions for FC/Asicminer in this--> thread.
August 23, 2014, 09:30:39 PM
This should be covered by operating costs.
You're an operating cost.
+1
Ad campaign is unnecessary - what are we doing, buying team members?
I think he should have considered making the ad campaign initially available to shareholders only. This would at least give them a little income while waiting for the dividend payments to kick in.
August 23, 2014, 09:16:50 PM
This should be covered by operating costs.
You're an operating cost.
+1
Ad campaign is unnecessary - what are we doing, buying team members?
August 23, 2014, 07:34:00 PM
Sunxaioxaio is part of asicminer and has already made a bid
Excellent, now we can have 2 slots.
August 23, 2014, 07:32:09 PM
This should be covered by operating costs.
You're an operating cost.
Final 42 hours
Currently:
BitCrane-Tech: 1 @ 0.30
sunxiaoxiao : 1 @ 0.30
Empty : 3
Currently:
BitCrane-Tech: 1 @ 0.30
sunxiaoxiao : 1 @ 0.30
Empty : 3
I'll take 1 @ 0.3 BTC
Sunxaioxaio is part of asicminer and has already made a bid
August 23, 2014, 06:46:49 PM
Well
Why?
I would like to see more advertising, so I'm doing something about it.
August 23, 2014, 06:41:52 PM
Is there any interest in putting together money for advertisement space on the forum? I'd be willing to throw down for the forum and on dogie's reviews
Why? It would seem to reason if more emphasis was needed to sell hardware or promote the company it would have already been forthcoming internally which leaves me the impression AM is focused on self mining with the remaining batch of Gen 3 ASICs.
August 23, 2014, 06:38:16 PM
Is there any interest in putting together money for advertisement space on the forum? I'd be willing to throw down for the forum and on dogie's reviews
Well he already has his Asicminer tube campaign going
That's promoting the selling of those units on the forum so there is some advertising going on in the forum already.
August 23, 2014, 06:27:09 PM
This should be covered by operating costs.
You're an operating cost.
Final 42 hours
Currently:
BitCrane-Tech: 1 @ 0.30
sunxiaoxiao : 1 @ 0.30
Empty : 3
Currently:
BitCrane-Tech: 1 @ 0.30
sunxiaoxiao : 1 @ 0.30
Empty : 3
I'll take 1 @ 0.3 BTC
August 23, 2014, 05:38:53 PM
Is there any interest in putting together money for advertisement space on the forum? I'd be willing to throw down for the forum and on dogie's reviews
This should be covered by operating costs. Simple as that. If FC has a more cost efficient strategy regarding advertising (i.e. He has buyers lined up already, a private referral network, maybe he is focused on large scale Chinese clients?) it would be good to know about.
Personally, I can't really spread info word-of-mouth wise since I have very little info and am not sure where to refer interested parties.
Advertising works and is one of the costs of doing business. This needs work here.
Of course, if divs are fat and % of network hash rate is large, that will call attention.
...waiting (slightly impatiently)
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