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Caesium

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Quote from: vortex1878 on May 26, 2014, 09:44:59 AM

fc confirms all share transfers, and the shares should then appear in your havelock account (although I did not receive a separate notification from havelock for this the last time).

None of my transfers took more than a week. I believe sth. went wrong with your transfer. Sad

I've had no confirmation from fc nor havelock, so I suppose that's a good thing. They're still my direct shares. Better than being lost in the void. I'll just try again

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Quote from: Caesium on May 26, 2014, 09:39:32 AM

Been waiting months now for a direct->havelock share transfer.

They haven't appeared in my havelock account but at the same time I can't confirm they're not my direct shares anymore as we haven't had a dividend since I requested it.

Guess I'll find out tomorrow what the situation is, if the dividend doesn't appear in either place then I have some shouting to do.

fc confirms all share transfers, and the shares should then appear in your havelock account (although I did not receive a separate notification from havelock for this the last time).

None of my transfers took more than a week. I believe sth. went wrong with your transfer. Sad

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Been waiting months now for a direct->havelock share transfer.

They haven't appeared in my havelock account but at the same time I can't confirm they're not my direct shares anymore as we haven't had a dividend since I requested it.

Guess I'll find out tomorrow what the situation is, if the dividend doesn't appear in either place then I have some shouting to do.

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Has anyone been keeping an eye on the number of outstanding shares being held by Havelock? Looks like they're currently holding a total of 27,320 shares to back AM1 and AM100. IIRC, it was about half of that about six months ago. I wonder if a lot of shares will be getting dumped once the next dividend payment is made. Would be interesting if Havelock had a chart that showed how many shares have been converted to pass throughs over the past six months or so.

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Quote from: necro_nemesis on May 25, 2014, 02:59:37 PM

Quote from: rudrigorc2 on May 25, 2014, 09:21:18 AM

Hes probably a person like Satoshi and well never be sure.

Satoshi never went in with intent to do business with other people's funding. I'm almost certain it will be a disappointment to some when they find out he's mortal and not the mythical creature they envision.

If hes a single person hes a mortal no doubt. What I wanted to say is altough he may be known person to some, it appears, whatever he does, he seems not to have the intention to become public figure. By any means Im calling him mythical figure or idol and this is not important discussion to this thread.

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Lets just see that money already!

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Quote from: data on May 26, 2014, 02:35:12 AM

Actually, yes. We are in Bitcoinland here, with a company that is being valued in bitcoins. So decreased btc dividends == lower btc value of the company. But this simple fact seems already lost on many.

Just because the number of bitcoins a company is valued at goes down, does not mean the companies true value goes down... if that event coincides with an increase in the purchasing power of a bitcoin. Bitcoin is great as a medium of exchange, a worse store of value (but getting better) but do not try and use it as a unit of account. You cant just look at the numbers... one bitcoin today is not worth the same as one bitcoin at IPO.

That is all the further I will discuss this, as this is mostly OT.

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Quote from: aahzmundus on May 26, 2014, 01:37:54 AM

When the value of a bitcoin goes up, and the div stays flat, would you not agree the value of the dividend went up? Or if the dividend went down by 10%, but the value of bitcoin doubled, would you still really complain about the "lower dividend".

Actually, yes. We are in Bitcoinland here, with a company that is being valued in bitcoins. So decreased btc dividends == lower btc value of the company. But this simple fact seems already lost on many.

A stable dollar price for asicminer is really bad performance, as it is still a high risk environment.

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Quote from: ujka on May 26, 2014, 02:01:53 AM

Why do we think that AM received $ for chips? Price is set in $, but the payment could be (more easily) done in BTC?

Quote from: Jutarul on April 21, 2014, 05:25:34 PM

5) When are the sales revenues of the chips expected to be paid out to shareholders?
re 5) When the balance payments are received and exchanged for Bitcoins.

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Why do we think that AM received $ for chips? Price is set in $, but the payment could be (more easily) done in BTC?

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I think you do not get the point of the post "bro". If the recent surge was due to FC's buying of coin, it would mean he was buying a lot of coin and the dividend would be good.

Also, in terms of the next round divs being lower due to this, while that may be true in simple terms, it is wrong in practical terms. When the value of a bitcoin goes up, and the div stays flat, would you not agree the value of the dividend went up? Or if the dividend went down by 10%, but the value of bitcoin doubled, would you still really complain about the "lower dividend".

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Quote from: CoinBomb on May 26, 2014, 01:29:38 AM

Quote from: bitsalame on May 25, 2014, 11:32:02 PM

I hope the massive jump in prices were due Friedcat's conversion to btc Tongue

Cool short term thinking Bro. the chips are priced in usd, the next rounds of dividends will be lower.

But higher btc value = more incentive to buy mining gear = more chip sales.

I think pricing in btc (like bitmain and avalon) would hurt sales during btc increases.

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Quote from: bitsalame on May 25, 2014, 11:32:02 PM

I hope the massive jump in prices were due Friedcat's conversion to btc Tongue

Cool short term thinking Bro. the chips are priced in usd, the next rounds of dividends will be lower.

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I hope the massive jump in prices were due Friedcat's conversion to btc Tongue

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Quote from: rudrigorc2 on May 25, 2014, 06:28:55 AM

Cant understand why the discussion on Friedcats identity.

That is Meaningless. I want divs. Who else with me? Grin

I also want dividends so hope that we see them tomorrow according to the deepfriedcat
That said not sure if it is entirely accurate on that

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Quote from: lophie on May 24, 2014, 11:52:17 PM

Compare prices, compare technologies, but leave when YOU start to sound like you are measuring d!c&s. Thank you for understanding. (I am generalizing not pointing to an individual btw. And apparently I am very hungry Grin

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This I agree with whole-heartedly! Cool

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I've redirected deepfriedcat.com to point to friedcat.info.

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Quote from: rudrigorc2 on May 25, 2014, 09:21:18 AM

Hes probably a person like Satoshi and well never be sure.

Satoshi never went in with intent to do business with other people's funding. I'm almost certain it will be a disappointment to some when they find out he's mortal and not the mythical creature they envision.

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Quote from: webbrowser on May 25, 2014, 02:00:35 AM

So what does the fried one look like?

Friedcat looks a little like Keyser Söze. Wink

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Quote from: webbrowser on May 25, 2014, 07:58:08 AM

Quote from: rudrigorc2 on May 25, 2014, 06:28:55 AM

Cant understand why the discussion on Friedcats identity.

There seems to be some contention about whether friedcat attended that mining forum. I figure that if the yixia video shows his presence, someone should be able to point him out. Ergo, the yixia video did not show him attending the forum.

Why point him out? First movers in AM saga already know him in person(webcam).

Hes probably a person like Satoshi and well never be sure.

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