Author

Topic: ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It - page 395. (Read 3917543 times)

legendary
Activity: 896
Merit: 1001
I believe many of you are following the ROCKMINER thread, but just in case: They just released the specifications for their first product. Sales seem to be starting shortly/now(!?) as well. When considering the power consumption, keep in mind this is a nominal consumption and it includes the whole miner hardware and fan. Furthermore it only features 4 chips, so the whole overhead may again be significantly less when it comes to large scale mining boards. Gen 3 hardware is beginning to ship! Awesome, huh?

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.6667896

RockMiner,R-BOX, Open National Mining Times again!

After working days and nights, R-BOX, RockMiner's virgin product is coming now, is aiming to be comfortable, convenient and high efficient. National mining is so close, are you ready?

R-BOX characteristics
Small and cute, mining at home, office etc, easily to be transferred;
Low noise, will not disturb yourselves and neighbors, mining with working together;
Easy to install, only normal power supply and USB line are necessary;
Simple operation, three steps, means one minute then machine is working.

Technical  Specifications
Effective Hash Rate:around 32GH/S
AM ASIC:4* AM Gen3.TSMC40nm
Mining Software:CGMiner
Machine Size:90mm(L)*90mm(W)*70mm(H)
Cooling:Air Cooling system
Power Supply:12V,5A adapter
Power Interface:DC2.5
Nominal Power Consumption:around 40W
Ambient Operating Temperature:10°~35°C (50°~95°F)
https://twitter.com/RockMinerInc

Weixin: pzj2870 or Alexsuct
Email: [email protected] or [email protected]

Just saw that and ran some quick numbers.  Payback is questionable even with 25% difficulty increase per month and cheap power...

Let's hope that the overhead is cheaper for larger miners.

40W is in the range of solar panels and batteries if you really want to go green
hero member
Activity: 686
Merit: 500
A pumpkin mines 27 hours a night
Just saw that and ran some quick numbers.  Payback is questionable even with 25% difficulty increase per month and cheap power...

Let's hope that the overhead is cheaper for larger miners.

What retail price are your calculations based on?
A monthly increase of 25% is rather optimistic. I guess we should consider at least 75%.
member
Activity: 117
Merit: 10
I believe many of you are following the ROCKMINER thread, but just in case: They just released the specifications for their first product. Sales seem to be starting shortly/now(!?) as well. When considering the power consumption, keep in mind this is a nominal consumption and it includes the whole miner hardware and fan. Furthermore it only features 4 chips, so the whole overhead may again be significantly less when it comes to large scale mining boards. Gen 3 hardware is beginning to ship! Awesome, huh?

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.6667896

RockMiner,R-BOX, Open National Mining Times again!

After working days and nights, R-BOX, RockMiner's virgin product is coming now, is aiming to be comfortable, convenient and high efficient. National mining is so close, are you ready?

R-BOX characteristics
Small and cute, mining at home, office etc, easily to be transferred;
Low noise, will not disturb yourselves and neighbors, mining with working together;
Easy to install, only normal power supply and USB line are necessary;
Simple operation, three steps, means one minute then machine is working.

Technical  Specifications
Effective Hash Rate:around 32GH/S
AM ASIC:4* AM Gen3.TSMC40nm
Mining Software:CGMiner
Machine Size:90mm(L)*90mm(W)*70mm(H)
Cooling:Air Cooling system
Power Supply:12V,5A adapter
Power Interface:DC2.5
Nominal Power Consumption:around 40W
Ambient Operating Temperature:10°~35°C (50°~95°F)
https://twitter.com/RockMinerInc

Weixin: pzj2870 or Alexsuct
Email: [email protected] or [email protected]

Just saw that and ran some quick numbers.  Payback is questionable even with 25% difficulty increase per month and cheap power...

Let's hope that the overhead is cheaper for larger miners.
hero member
Activity: 686
Merit: 500
A pumpkin mines 27 hours a night
I believe many of you are following the ROCKMINER thread, but just in case: They just released the specifications for their first product. Sales seem to be starting shortly/now(!?) as well. When considering the power consumption, keep in mind this is a nominal consumption and it includes the whole miner hardware and fan. Furthermore it only features 4 chips, so the whole overhead may again be significantly less when it comes to large scale mining boards. Gen 3 hardware is beginning to ship! Awesome, huh?

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.6667896

RockMiner,R-BOX, Open National Mining Times again!

After working days and nights, R-BOX, RockMiner's virgin product is coming now, is aiming to be comfortable, convenient and high efficient. National mining is so close, are you ready?

R-BOX characteristics
Small and cute, mining at home, office etc, easily to be transferred;
Low noise, will not disturb yourselves and neighbors, mining with working together;
Easy to install, only normal power supply and USB line are necessary;
Simple operation, three steps, means one minute then machine is working.

Technical  Specifications
Effective Hash Rate:around 32GH/S
AM ASIC:4* AM Gen3.TSMC40nm
Mining Software:CGMiner
Machine Size:90mm(L)*90mm(W)*70mm(H)
Cooling:Air Cooling system
Power Supply:12V,5A adapter
Power Interface:DC2.5
Nominal Power Consumption:around 40W
Ambient Operating Temperature:10°~35°C (50°~95°F)
https://twitter.com/RockMinerInc

Weixin: pzj2870 or Alexsuct
Email: [email protected] or [email protected]
hero member
Activity: 714
Merit: 500
I guess that I didn't realize only selling what you physically have in your possession was such an important concept.

Bone up on the history of the mining companies around here. ASICMINER is the only one that's never taken "preorder" money, AFAIK. Selling only what you physically have in your possession is very unusual in this industry.
legendary
Activity: 896
Merit: 1001
All the drama with the other companies (not only in the US) has made me realize what an outstanding job AM is doing.

Here is a summary (and we can probably add a lot more drama we have seen in the past few years) in the Cointerra Class Action Lawsuit Thread:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.6562741

What stands out that AM has avoided all that. Never took orders for a product not in stock (and hence never under-delivered), never did cannibalistic crowd funding, survived a couple of setbacks, and is still at it). I also posted this over there.

I guess that I didn't realize only selling what you physically have in your possession was such an important concept.
hero member
Activity: 489
Merit: 500
Immersionist
All the drama with the other companies (not only in the US) has made me realize what an outstanding job AM is doing.

Here is a summary (and we can probably add a lot more drama we have seen in the past few years) in the Cointerra Class Action Lawsuit Thread:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.6562741

What stands out that AM has avoided all that. Never took orders for a product not in stock (and hence never under-delivered), never did cannibalistic crowd funding, survived a couple of setbacks, and is still at it). I also posted this over there.
hero member
Activity: 686
Merit: 500
A pumpkin mines 27 hours a night
Are we waiting for gen3.1 or still for gen3 chips?

There's no difference in production time. AFAIK they simply enlarge an area when packaging the chip or something similar in order to get rid of the heat better. There's no change in the circuits themselves, so no tapeout, test batches or anything. Like when you ordered 100 cars and before/while they are being made you tell the factory to paint them in another color.
legendary
Activity: 1904
Merit: 1007
So very quiet.   Palpable anxiousness.

It's all very odd isn't it? Chips have been shipped out on mass and yet anybody who doesn't follow the AM threads appears to have no idea. After some dividends begin rolling we should see the forums light up like they did last time Friedcat was "making it rain". We've waiting this long but somehow this month is the most painful. Only 17 more days.

How many chips have been shipped out? The promised 850k or just the 23k to rockxie?

Are we waiting for gen3.1 or still for gen3 chips?
hero member
Activity: 714
Merit: 500
ASICMINER's always been like this, which is why I'm holding. They tend to be low on communication, but they've got a good track record of getting the job done and bringing value to shareholders. I kinda like it this way, since it helps prevent the price from getting overinflated due to hype. Better than the companies out there who are all talk and no results, at any rate.

Of course, this is still all a gamble. But I was a shareholder last year and I have fond memories of the dividends we were getting back then. Looking forward to the return of those, even if they are only going to come once a month now.
full member
Activity: 224
Merit: 100
newbie
Activity: 30
Merit: 0
If divs continue to be distributed on Wednesdays then we'll have to wait another day, as the 27th is a Tuesday.
legendary
Activity: 817
Merit: 1000
So very quiet.   Palpable anxiousness.

It's all very odd isn't it? Chips have been shipped out on mass and yet anybody who doesn't follow the AM threads appears to have no idea. After some dividends begin rolling we should see the forums light up like they did last time Friedcat was "making it rain". We've waiting this long but somehow this month is the most painful. Only 17 more days.
hero member
Activity: 644
Merit: 500
Inspired
So very quiet.   Palpable anxiousness.
full member
Activity: 224
Merit: 100
Didn't Friedcat also say that divs will probably be monthly instead of weekly moving forward?

He did indeed. Second hand, and stated as a probability, but still..

From Jutarul's q&a session with him:

"2) With the switch to selling chips, can we expect dividends to be paid out on are "more monthly" basis?
re 2) Most likely yes."
really hard to wait.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.6238308

Sage advice.
hero member
Activity: 770
Merit: 500
Didn't Friedcat also say that divs will probably be monthly instead of weekly moving forward?

He did indeed. Second hand, and stated as a probability, but still..

From Jutarul's q&a session with him:

"2) With the switch to selling chips, can we expect dividends to be paid out on are "more monthly" basis?
re 2) Most likely yes."
really hard to wait.
full member
Activity: 224
Merit: 100
For benefit of all you people with ADD please read past the first line of the Q/A. This link was just provided three or four posts ago. Jutarul sits on the board and is kind enough to liaise between the investors on here, FC and the board. I would highly recommend listening to what he has to say when he infrequently posts this kind of valuable information.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.6465166
newbie
Activity: 12
Merit: 0
Didn't Friedcat also say that divs will probably be monthly instead of weekly moving forward?

He did indeed. Second hand, and stated as a probability, but still..

From Jutarul's q&a session with him:

"2) With the switch to selling chips, can we expect dividends to be paid out on are "more monthly" basis?
re 2) Most likely yes."
member
Activity: 117
Merit: 10
Didn't Friedcat also say that divs will probably be monthly instead of weekly moving forward?
newbie
Activity: 29
Merit: 0
Who receives the rest of the 850k chips? What do we know/assume?

A big miner producer called "Hashratio" in China also has received a huge amount of Gen3 chips. However, they are focused on self-mining and huge clients, so many people don't know their existence.


So after selling 850k chips when will people get dividends from them?
The new round of dividends are scheduled to begin as soon as the first large purchases have concluded and should precede or coincide with the publication of the updated financial statements.
Jump to: