Topic: ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It - page 862. (Read 3917543 times)

That might be worth it.. anyone use havelock and like them?

Please correct your post, it is incorrect.

AM1 has the same export abilities as ASICMINER-PT, the form that is being added is an ADDITIONAL convenience

Your portrayal of interexchange transfers as anything different than using FC as a medium is misleading as well.

Your portrayal of counterparty risk could also be painted as a negative for BTCT because the exchange operator running his own assets is a conflict of interest. I won't go into detail why because I don't want people to think I am making accusations in that regard.

No dividend cuts on btct.co's ASICMINER-PT.  ASICMINER-PT has no management fee.

TAT.ASICMINER maybe 5%?

Worded slightly differently from the ASICMINER-PT perspective:

- No advantage over BTCT on the trade fees.
- No advantage over BTCT for importing/exporting directly with Friedcat.

+ AM1 advantage over ASICMINER-PT for fast imports from other exchanges.  (great idea TAT, we may have to borrow this!)
- AM1 disadvantage over ASICMINER-PT for exports.  There is currently no way to export your shares to direct shares from AM1 and no way to export your shares to other exchanges.  As of this post it's a one way trip.  Note that they do say it's coming via a web based form, but unless it supports plugging in a destination of exchange:username (eg bitfunder:burnside) you will not be able to transfer direct from exchange to exchange like you can now between Bitfunder and BTCT.  DeaDTerra and I both support direct exchange transfers already, it just takes a day or two for Friedcat to confirm the transactions between our respective ASICMINER accounts.

- AM1 disadvantage over ASICMINER-PT for volume.
- AM1 disadvantage over ASICMINER-PT for counter-party risk.  You have to trust three organizations (AM, Havelock, TAT) with your shares instead of just two. (AM, BTCT)
- AM1 disadvantage over ASICMINER-PT for counter-party risk.  BTCT sends full shareholder lists directly to Friedcat via email several times a day.  If BTCT closes suddenly, Friedcat already has records of what everyone owns to within the last few hours.

I'll also re-iterate that BTCT has no management fee.  100% of divs are passed through.

Cheers.

And so the PT wars begin...

That might be worth it.. anyone use havelock and like them?

Worded slightly differently from the ASICMINER-PT perspective:

- No advantage over BTCT on the trade fees.
- No advantage over BTCT for importing/exporting directly with Friedcat.

+ AM1 advantage over ASICMINER-PT for fast imports from other exchanges.  (great idea TAT, we may have to borrow this!)
- AM1 disadvantage over ASICMINER-PT for exports.  There is currently no way to export your shares to direct shares from AM1 and no way to export your shares to other exchanges.  As of this post it's a one way trip.  Note that they do say it's coming via a web based form, but unless it supports plugging in a destination of exchange:username (eg bitfunder:burnside) you will not be able to transfer direct from exchange to exchange like you can now between Bitfunder and BTCT.  DeaDTerra and I both support direct exchange transfers already, it just takes a day or two for Friedcat to confirm the transactions between our respective ASICMINER accounts.

- AM1 disadvantage over ASICMINER-PT for volume.
- AM1 disadvantage over ASICMINER-PT for counter-party risk.  You have to trust three organizations (AM, Havelock, TAT) with your shares instead of just two. (AM, BTCT)
- AM1 disadvantage over ASICMINER-PT for counter-party risk.  BTCT sends full shareholder lists directly to Friedcat via email several times a day.  If BTCT closes suddenly, Friedcat already has records of what everyone owns to within the last few hours.

I'll also re-iterate that BTCT has no management fee.  100% of divs are passed through.

Cheers.

The advantage over BitFunder is that the trade fees are lower, and the export restrictions are better at Havelock.

The advantage over BTCT & BitFunder is that I will allow importing of other PT shares (ASICMINER-PT & G.ASICMINER) without having to go through Friedcat first.

Havelock is paying me a small fee to manage the asset in order to have it on their exchange. There are no management fees against dividends.

No dividend cuts on btct.co's ASICMINER-PT.  ASICMINER-PT has no management fee.

TAT.ASICMINER maybe 5%?

5%

Would I be able to transfer all my shares from btct to havelock before the dividend?

5%

That fee is very small right? I tried to find it for btct but couldn't, anyone know what the dividend cut is?

The advantage over BitFunder is that the trade fees are lower, and the export restrictions are better at Havelock.

The advantage over BTCT & BitFunder is that I will allow importing of other PT shares (ASICMINER-PT & G.ASICMINER) without having to go through Friedcat first.

Havelock is paying me a small fee to manage the asset in order to have it on their exchange. There are no management fees against dividends.

I like this guys style.

Mini-sell off on Havelock on the AM100 due to the AM1 launch I assume. Always some action in the crazy world of ASICMINER.

-Buy share for BTC4
-???
-Sell share for BTC4

ROI = anywhere from 2 seconds to infinity

Oh, wait, you must have meant "the amount of time it will take these shares to collect their face value in dividends". For a second there, I thought you were talking about something else.