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Quote from: Biomech on September 17, 2013, 09:34:26 PM

Quote from: kokjo on September 17, 2013, 12:45:38 AM

well maybe i have a lower threshold for when killing people is acceptable. live with it.

That certainly argues in FAVOR of others owning firearms, doesn't it?

Yeah, to those of us with English as our first language, it kinda reads like "maybe I kill people for calling me bad names, so, back off."

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Quote from: kokjo on September 17, 2013, 12:45:38 AM

well maybe i have a lower threshold for when killing people is acceptable. live with it.

That certainly argues in FAVOR of others owning firearms, doesn't it?

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http://globalmilitaryreview.blogspot.com/2012/06/israeli-female-soldiers-ready-for.html

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Quote from: FirstAscent on September 17, 2013, 02:55:38 PM

....As I've said countless times here, uniform application of gun control is necessary.

It does not matter what YOU SAID. All that matters in a discussion is what has been reasonably well proved, and that you haven't achieved.

You might be more precise in your statement, something like....

"Even though I've been proved wrong on my theory of uniform application, I continue to believe it...Only if all the people except the criminals are disarmed will we be safe. Only when people have to uniformly rely on police never getting to the crime scene until the crime is over and the criminals have fled, will we be safe. Only when every rapist can get what he wants without fear of guns, will the world be a better place."

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Quote from: kokjo on September 17, 2013, 03:27:18 PM

Quote from: Rassah on September 17, 2013, 02:20:39 PM

Quote from: FirstAscent on September 17, 2013, 02:06:03 PM

Quote from: kokjo on September 17, 2013, 03:48:37 AM

Quote from: elektibi75 on September 17, 2013, 03:11:48 AM

A few facts from wikipedia:
USA population: 316,676,000
Isreal population: 8,051,200

Just saying...

Talk about deflating someone's thunder! How funny!

Let's see if I can reinflate it:

Assuming lowest casualties,
Israel - 8 shootings every 10 years means a minimum of 0.8 shootings a year.
America - 323 shootings every 10 years means a minimum of 32 shootings a year!

Obviously that's not right, so the only other conclusion we can make is that every shooting in America has WAY WAY WAY WAY more casualties than every shooting in Israel. My guess the reason is because everyone in American schools is completely defenseless, so shooters can just keep shooting till they run out of bullets, while in Israel they get taken down quick.

please read the posts again(if you can read...). when you realize you mistake you will hopefully be embarrassed, and stop spewing misleading propaganda all over the place.

Insults tend to say something about the insulter, at minimum, that their argument was deflated and they are resorting to emotional forms of persuasion.

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You are WRONG!

Quote from: Rassah on September 17, 2013, 02:20:39 PM

Quote from: FirstAscent on September 17, 2013, 02:06:03 PM

Quote from: kokjo on September 17, 2013, 03:48:37 AM

Quote from: elektibi75 on September 17, 2013, 03:11:48 AM

A few facts from wikipedia:
USA population: 316,676,000
Isreal population: 8,051,200

Just saying...

Talk about deflating someone's thunder! How funny!

Let's see if I can reinflate it:

Assuming lowest casualties,
Israel - 8 shootings every 10 years means a minimum of 0.8 shootings a year.
America - 323 shootings every 10 years means a minimum of 32 shootings a year!

Obviously that's not right, so the only other conclusion we can make is that every shooting in America has WAY WAY WAY WAY more casualties than every shooting in Israel. My guess the reason is because everyone in American schools is completely defenseless, so shooters can just keep shooting till they run out of bullets, while in Israel they get taken down quick.

please read the posts again(if you can read...). when you realize you mistake you will hopefully be embarrassed, and stop spewing misleading propaganda all over the place.

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Quote from: Rassah on September 17, 2013, 02:20:39 PM

Quote from: FirstAscent on September 17, 2013, 02:06:03 PM

Quote from: kokjo on September 17, 2013, 03:48:37 AM

Quote from: elektibi75 on September 17, 2013, 03:11:48 AM

A few facts from wikipedia:
USA population: 316,676,000
Isreal population: 8,051,200

Just saying...

Talk about deflating someone's thunder! How funny!

Let's see if I can reinflate it:

Assuming lowest casualties,
Israel - 8 shootings every 10 years means a minimum of 0.8 shootings a year.
America - 323 shootings every 10 years means a minimum of 32 shootings a year!

Obviously that's not right, so the only other conclusion we can make is that every shooting in America has WAY WAY WAY WAY more casualties than every shooting in Israel. My guess the reason is because everyone in American schools is completely defenseless, so shooters can just keep shooting till they run out of bullets, while in Israel they get taken down quick.

This proves my point about statistics being meaningless, other than to support any argument desired.

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Quote from: FirstAscent on September 17, 2013, 02:55:38 PM

Quote from: Rassah on September 17, 2013, 02:50:39 PM

Quote from: kokjo on September 17, 2013, 02:40:42 PM

Quote from: Rassah on September 17, 2013, 02:13:20 PM

Quote from: FirstAscent on September 17, 2013, 02:08:46 PM

But we don't want to live in a gun show.

See, that's the difference here. Some people like living in gun shows, but they are not forcing you to. You're free to live in a gun free zone if you want. You on the other hand don't want to live in a gun show, and are hoping to force everyone else to live the same way you do, too. That's the difference between others giving you the freedom to choose, and you forcing your wants on others, and is the same difference between anarchy and government.

if you want to live in a gun show. fuck off to another country. (just as you said to us, but less polite.)

There is PLENTY of country here to go around. You stay in areas that are completely disarmed, others can stay in areas that have guns, and I'll stay wherever the hell I damn please. Are the people in heavily armed areas, like for instance Texas or New Hampshire, trying to force cities like Baltimore, DC, Chicago, Detroit, and some states like NY and Maryland to force people to carry guns? Are they trying to force those places to make it legal to own and carry guns? No? They stop forcing those states to do what you want.

This has already been addressed by other people, including you. You have pointed out how ineffective that works - i.e Chicago. As I've said countless times here, uniform application of gun control is necessary.

Necessary to accomplish your pipe dream of everyone being disarmed. But somehow I don't think you're talking about the most dangerous of armed individuals, namely governments, their thugs, and criminals. If it was possible, then this discussion would be about swords.

Why do you keep posting the same thing? Following Hitler's mantra of repeating a lie long enough people will believe it?

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Ate dinner last night at a restaurant. Several people there were open carrying and a few more of their friends may have been concealing. Had to be the safest place in town. Other than the police station, where even more people had guns.

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Quote from: Rassah on September 17, 2013, 02:50:39 PM

Quote from: kokjo on September 17, 2013, 02:40:42 PM

Quote from: Rassah on September 17, 2013, 02:13:20 PM

Quote from: FirstAscent on September 17, 2013, 02:08:46 PM

But we don't want to live in a gun show.

See, that's the difference here. Some people like living in gun shows, but they are not forcing you to. You're free to live in a gun free zone if you want. You on the other hand don't want to live in a gun show, and are hoping to force everyone else to live the same way you do, too. That's the difference between others giving you the freedom to choose, and you forcing your wants on others, and is the same difference between anarchy and government.

if you want to live in a gun show. fuck off to another country. (just as you said to us, but less polite.)

There is PLENTY of country here to go around. You stay in areas that are completely disarmed, others can stay in areas that have guns, and I'll stay wherever the hell I damn please. Are the people in heavily armed areas, like for instance Texas or New Hampshire, trying to force cities like Baltimore, DC, Chicago, Detroit, and some states like NY and Maryland to force people to carry guns? Are they trying to force those places to make it legal to own and carry guns? No? They stop forcing those states to do what you want.

This has already been addressed by other people, including you. You have pointed out how ineffective that works - i.e Chicago. As I've said countless times here, uniform application of gun control is necessary.

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Quote from: kokjo on September 17, 2013, 02:40:42 PM

Quote from: Rassah on September 17, 2013, 02:13:20 PM

Quote from: FirstAscent on September 17, 2013, 02:08:46 PM

But we don't want to live in a gun show.

See, that's the difference here. Some people like living in gun shows, but they are not forcing you to. You're free to live in a gun free zone if you want. You on the other hand don't want to live in a gun show, and are hoping to force everyone else to live the same way you do, too. That's the difference between others giving you the freedom to choose, and you forcing your wants on others, and is the same difference between anarchy and government.

if you want to live in a gun show. fuck off to another country. (just as you said to us, but less polite.)

There is PLENTY of country here to go around. You stay in areas that are completely disarmed, others can stay in areas that have guns, and I'll stay wherever the hell I damn please. Are the people in heavily armed areas, like for instance Texas or New Hampshire, trying to force cities like Baltimore, DC, Chicago, Detroit, and some states like NY and Maryland to force people to carry guns? Are they trying to force those places to make it legal to own and carry guns? No? They stop forcing those states to do what you want.

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Quote from: Rassah on September 17, 2013, 02:13:20 PM

Quote from: FirstAscent on September 17, 2013, 02:08:46 PM

But we don't want to live in a gun show.

See, that's the difference here. Some people like living in gun shows, but they are not forcing you to.

They aren't?

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You are WRONG!

Quote from: Rassah on September 17, 2013, 02:13:20 PM

Quote from: FirstAscent on September 17, 2013, 02:08:46 PM

But we don't want to live in a gun show.

See, that's the difference here. Some people like living in gun shows, but they are not forcing you to. You're free to live in a gun free zone if you want. You on the other hand don't want to live in a gun show, and are hoping to force everyone else to live the same way you do, too. That's the difference between others giving you the freedom to choose, and you forcing your wants on others, and is the same difference between anarchy and government.

if you want to live in a gun show. fuck off to another country. (just as you said to us, but less polite.)

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Quote from: Rassah on September 17, 2013, 02:20:39 PM

Quote from: FirstAscent on September 17, 2013, 02:06:03 PM

Quote from: kokjo on September 17, 2013, 03:48:37 AM

Quote from: elektibi75 on September 17, 2013, 03:11:48 AM

A few facts from wikipedia:
USA population: 316,676,000
Isreal population: 8,051,200

Just saying...

Talk about deflating someone's thunder! How funny!

Let's see if I can reinflate it:

Assuming lowest casualties,
Israel - 8 shootings every 10 years means a minimum of 0.8 shootings a year.
America - 323 shootings every 10 years means a minimum of 32 shootings a year!

Obviously that's not right, so the only other conclusion we can make is that every shooting in America has WAY WAY WAY WAY more casualties than every shooting in Israel. My guess the reason is because everyone in American schools is completely defenseless, so shooters can just keep shooting till they run out of bullets, while in Israel they get taken down quick.

Doesn't fit the victim disarmament narrative. Prepare for more BS from the criminal safety side.

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Quote from: FirstAscent on September 17, 2013, 02:06:03 PM

Quote from: kokjo on September 17, 2013, 03:48:37 AM

Quote from: elektibi75 on September 17, 2013, 03:11:48 AM

A few facts from wikipedia:
USA population: 316,676,000
Isreal population: 8,051,200

Just saying...

Talk about deflating someone's thunder! How funny!

Let's see if I can reinflate it:

Assuming lowest casualties,
Israel - 8 shootings every 10 years means a minimum of 0.8 shootings a year.
America - 323 shootings every 10 years means a minimum of 32 shootings a year!

Obviously that's not right, so the only other conclusion we can make is that every shooting in America has WAY WAY WAY WAY more casualties than every shooting in Israel. My guess the reason is because everyone in American schools is completely defenseless, so shooters can just keep shooting till they run out of bullets, while in Israel they get taken down quick.

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Quote from: FirstAscent on September 17, 2013, 02:08:46 PM

But we don't want to live in a gun show.

See, that's the difference here. Some people like living in gun shows, but they are not forcing you to. You're free to live in a gun free zone if you want. You on the other hand don't want to live in a gun show, and are hoping to force everyone else to live the same way you do, too. That's the difference between others giving you the freedom to choose, and you forcing your wants on others, and is the same difference between anarchy and government.

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Quote from: BitcoinBarrel on July 05, 2013, 11:24:47 AM

But we don't want to live in a gun show.

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Quote from: kokjo on September 17, 2013, 03:48:37 AM

Quote from: elektibi75 on September 17, 2013, 03:11:48 AM

A few facts from wikipedia:
USA population: 316,676,000
Isreal population: 8,051,200

Just saying...

Talk about deflating someone's thunder! How funny!

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Quote from: FirstAscent on September 16, 2013, 08:04:37 PM

Quote from: TheButterZone on September 16, 2013, 03:31:00 PM

"Self-defense for a group of people"?

WTF are you talking about? An innocent pilot shooting a terrorist trying to commandeer his plane to kill the passengers and people on the ground?

The pilot's act is a lawful killing, and not murder, not an act of aggression, only defense of innocent life. Stop redefining murder to make some convoluted point.

Who judges these cases?

Who judges these cases now? Same people would judge them then (the pilots, the passengers, the potential airline customers, and ultimately the judges if it has to come to it) What are you trying to get at?

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