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Topic: ATM Robocoin Ends Bitcoin Services (Read 1502 times)

legendary
Activity: 2212
Merit: 1038
February 10, 2016, 04:33:42 AM
#28
OK this is BS I just got an SMS that Robocoin is ending service on the 15th. We started with 1 ATM and now have like 5 scattered around town. Often there's a lineup to use the machine so there's no way they're shutting down due to lack of business; something else is going on.

As for requiring all your personals, fingerprints and a retina scan that was only when they first started up. Since then anybody can use the machine anonymously just insert cash or load BTC and get cash or BTC, no jumping through hoops.

Also the exchange I use and had a fiat ATM card for got sold to Kraken and they didn't carry over the debt card service.

This is all really inconvenient.
legendary
Activity: 3346
Merit: 1191
January 23, 2016, 01:39:12 AM
#27
"Withdrawals "may take some time" due to elevated website traffic."

Or, in other words, they stole the money.

That is the same thing that fall on my mind. Or maybe even worst they lost it on gambling or some ponzi investment and now they don't have money to pay out people.

Maybe they will share more information why they quit in next few days.
legendary
Activity: 2940
Merit: 1865
January 19, 2016, 10:57:49 PM
#26
Those arms are useless in my opinion anyway. I just want an online service where I can buy bitcoin in seconds.

I don't want to have to go out to buy bitcoin and show in public that I'm buying it.


Hear you, NorrisK (and Master of Puppets too).

I would like to see some brave entrepreneurs open up a service (on the 'Net or even making BTMs) that would sell me BTC for cash without all of the annoying AML/KYC "features".  Whose business is it anyway what we do with our own money (that we have already paid txes on earning)?

SOMEONE is going to figure out how to do this -- selling BTC quietly.  And they will make a fortune.  A gold mine.  Bravo for them.

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Hmm, if private individuals, who, um, might have friends who like BTC, might be able to purchase a Lamassu and just keep it in their house...  Sell BTC for CA$H, but just their own...  Maybe let a few friends into the clubhouse too...

SOMEONE is going to get very wealthy cracking this nut.  And localbitcoins just is not doing the job in my city.
legendary
Activity: 2450
Merit: 1047
January 19, 2016, 12:09:09 AM
#25
There would be many more atm company that can serve the bitcoin community's need in two years from now we can have atm on every corner as many companies still want to employ the bitcoin system to their company here in our country it's easy to convert your bitcoin to our local currency..
legendary
Activity: 1204
Merit: 1002
January 16, 2016, 03:00:00 PM
#24
"Withdrawals "may take some time" due to elevated website traffic."

Or, in other words, they stole the money.
legendary
Activity: 2156
Merit: 1393
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January 16, 2016, 12:33:33 PM
#23
Bitcoin is full of stupid ideas and VC money invested by idiots. The good news is stupid ideas fail and bad investors go broke quickly.
legendary
Activity: 1400
Merit: 1001
January 16, 2016, 11:08:42 AM
#22
Roboscam. End.
They did not cheat and did not steal anything. People who invested in Robocoin's bitcoin business are free to withdraw their bitcoins without problems.
There is difference between failed business project and a scam.
newbie
Activity: 9
Merit: 0
January 16, 2016, 10:40:22 AM
#21
Who needed thumb-scanning, DNA-leaching, Retina-scanning fucking Robocoin? Who? Nobody, that's who.

High fees and high surveilance. There was no demand for their uncompetitve product. They won't be missed. The opensource-ATMs you build yourself are better than their ponzi.
legendary
Activity: 1358
Merit: 1000
January 16, 2016, 06:17:15 AM
#20
My ATM is my phone

I don't need physical cash or banks anymore
legendary
Activity: 1652
Merit: 1007
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January 16, 2016, 06:08:34 AM
#19
What s the problem with this? Every industry s the same, better, more innovative companies survive and those less able to adapt, go down.

Why would this affect BTC at all?
legendary
Activity: 3248
Merit: 1070
January 16, 2016, 06:03:28 AM
#18
bitcoin does not really need to service, once you can easily buy things from private and pay directly in bitcoin everything else will be obsolete, this can be done with a platform like open bazar

service like this are heavily centralized, they must regulate everything before accepting a new way of payment, it's the reaosn why amazon is still not accepting bitcoin, and many other for that case

in this case i muse private vendors of atm will emerge, it's not like the end of the world
legendary
Activity: 1946
Merit: 1007
January 16, 2016, 05:49:28 AM
#17
Those arms are useless in my opinion anyway. I just want an online service where I can buy bitcoin in seconds.

I don't want to have to go out to buy bitcoin and show in public that I'm buying it.
full member
Activity: 176
Merit: 100
January 16, 2016, 05:46:51 AM
#16
Robocoin was always SHIT anyway. Did any of you actually try this thing? It was a total mess, you would need even a hand scan along with ID and a lot of other shit. Such ATMs only bring a bad feeling to people because they need a lot of credentials to get some damn Bitcoin.


My city has two Bitcoin ATMs ("BTMs").  They are Lamassu brand.  I have used one of them.  About 25% of the time, it is not working (or correctly anyway), though sometimes the owner can reboot it from their office.



Thanks for the heads up. I have been toying with the idea of making a long journey to my nearest Bitcoin ATM, and I expected it to be working 100% of the time. I thought its functional hours would be the same as the shop's opening hours that it's installed in. It would have been a complete letdown if I had made the journey and found the ATM was not working.
legendary
Activity: 2884
Merit: 1115
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January 16, 2016, 05:25:52 AM
#15
Good since the contracts were terrible for users and new competition went and made them obsolete.
In a pressure industry companies fail when they lack adaptation being first is good but keeping yourself competitive in a new market is important as well.
legendary
Activity: 3038
Merit: 4418
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January 16, 2016, 05:03:20 AM
#14
Bitcoin atms have relatively high fees%?  I would imagine a trade on localbitcoin would be easier, and you don't even have to get in the car.
They do. Considering the rental cost and the machine costs, it would be understandable. Localbitcoins isn't a fair comparison, there are still scammers there and not everyone prefer to use bank accounts to buy Bitcoins.


Robocoin wasn't that much of a great machine from the start. They are big and bulky with a high pricing. By enabling KYC/AML features by default, users who do not wish to give out information from countries without specific policies for ATMs like this would be discouraged to use the ATM. This would've hurt the revenue of the ATM operators. Alternatives such as Lamassu are smaller, fast and have a fancy UI.
sr. member
Activity: 1176
Merit: 297
Bitcoin © Maximalist
January 16, 2016, 04:37:40 AM
#13
Not really surprising bitcoin is for internet not a brick and mortar type of operation
legendary
Activity: 1148
Merit: 1014
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January 16, 2016, 04:24:26 AM
#12
Roboscam. End.
member
Activity: 98
Merit: 10
January 16, 2016, 03:45:19 AM
#11
Bitcoin atms have relatively high fees%?  I would imagine a trade on localbitcoin would be easier, and you don't even have to get in the car.
legendary
Activity: 1904
Merit: 1074
January 16, 2016, 03:41:47 AM
#10
These guys are operating on thin margins and competition in this market is tough. They could not hack it in the BTM hardware model and then changed over to the software and

remittance side. Now they are changing again and want to try the card storage services for mobile payments? Either way, things looks a little bit unstable there, if you

constantly needs to make huge business model changes like that.  Huh If I were a investor there, I would be very worried.... How do you build on customer trust, if you keep on

jumping from the one model to the next?
legendary
Activity: 2940
Merit: 1865
January 15, 2016, 09:19:55 PM
#9
Robocoin was always SHIT anyway. Did any of you actually try this thing? It was a total mess, you would need even a hand scan along with ID and a lot of other shit. Such ATMs only bring a bad feeling to people because they need a lot of credentials to get some damn Bitcoin.


My city has two Bitcoin ATMs ("BTMs").  They are Lamassu brand.  I have used one of them.  About 25% of the time, it is not working (or correctly anyway), though sometimes the owner can reboot it from their office.

The one I have used here wants a scan of a Driver's License.

I don't understand why it should be so hard to make a decent BTM.  The Lamassu works (mostly) and is resistant to at least casual theft (of the CA$H inside it).
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