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Topic: [Auction] 3 KNC Miner Pre- order " Golden Ticket " to sell (Read 2943 times)

sr. member
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I am very sorry people, it was not possible to make an normal auction with this stalker. I had to cancel this auction.
Say thanks to bitpop.

IF you want a spot please PM me. I can only work with John K. as an escrow. Sorry, it was not possible to make it i a normal way.
legendary
Activity: 2912
Merit: 1060
I know what you're plan is. You will sell the 'golden tickets'multiple times explaining your shady pms, the people will but multiple miners and you will go behind their back changing the address. The buyers will lose both btc and their miners. But they do deserve it if their greediness drives them to deal with you.
sr. member
Activity: 407
Merit: 250
He's dishonest
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/scam-tag-request-for-idee2013-227961

Watch out litebit, your post is about to deleted. He has all the mods in his pocket somehow Huh


You are still wondering how? because it's true. think about it. You only want that i give every spot away!!! since the first day you are stalking my topics.
legendary
Activity: 2912
Merit: 1060
Don't you get it? You lie, your word means nothing. A man only has his word and you clearly aren't a man. I don't know where you're from but this is called being shady as fuq.
sr. member
Activity: 407
Merit: 250
Sorry LiteBit and all to want take part to this auction. I slept and thought about my forgotten startprice and i have decided to make a startprice
of 3 BTC for each spot, because i have allready bids if 4 and 5 BTC in PMs. Pleoples asked me if  can  do it as an auction to make it fair. So if all particpants  and who had write me a PM and wanted that i am fair, then its only fair when i am insisting for the forgotten startprice.

Well,
NEW auction start with startprice of 3BTC




You can't do that.  If you have PM bids higher then they move the auction price and you post them on the topic, not change the rules.  Otherwise you don't post or start a topic in the Auctions section, you start a topic in the Goods or Digital Goods section with your terms. 

So you need to post your PMs in this topic for all potential bidders to see.  That is a definition of Auction.  BTW, I withdraw my bid per your new terms and because the previous auction obviously ended with you not holding to the original terms. 

Note to kncminer... if watching these things... THIS PROCESS OF TRYING TO ORDER YOUR PRODUCTS IS VERY FRUSTRATING!  Potential clients are being turned off by people not involved in your project or organization but that have the power over who gets your products or not.  VERY FRUSTRATING!

Ok Letbit  and others, the price is still 0,5 BTC, because everything i do here seems to be wrong.
legendary
Activity: 2912
Merit: 1060
He's dishonest
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/scam-tag-request-for-idee2013-227961

Watch out litebit, your post is about to deleted. He has all the mods in his pocket somehow Huh
legendary
Activity: 2912
Merit: 1060
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=227961.new#new

Sorry LiteBit and all to want take part to this auction. I slept and thought about my forgotten startprice and i have decided to make a startprice
of 3 BTC for each spot, because i have allready bids if 4 and 5 BTC in PMs. Pleoples asked me if  can  do it as an auction to make it fair. So if all particpants  and who had write me a PM and wanted that i am fair, then its only fair when i am insisting for the forgotten startprice.

Well,
NEW auction start with startprice of 3BTC




You can't do that.  If you have PM bids higher then they move the auction price and you post them on the topic, not change the rules.  Otherwise you don't post or start a topic in the Auctions section, you start a topic in the Goods or Digital Goods section with your terms. 

So you need to post your PMs in this topic for all potential bidders to see.  That is a definition of Auction.  BTW, I withdraw my bid per your new terms and because the previous auction obviously ended with you not holding to the original terms. 

Note to kncminer... if watching these things... THIS PROCESS OF TRYING TO ORDER YOUR PRODUCTS IS VERY FRUSTRATING!  Potential clients are being turned off by people not involved in your project or organization but that have the power over who gets your products or not.  VERY FRUSTRATING!
legendary
Activity: 1133
Merit: 1050
Sorry LiteBit and all to want take part to this auction. I slept and thought about my forgotten startprice and i have decided to make a startprice
of 3 BTC for each spot, because i have allready bids if 4 and 5 BTC in PMs. Pleoples asked me if  can  do it as an auction to make it fair. So if all particpants  and who had write me a PM and wanted that i am fair, then its only fair when i am insisting for the forgotten startprice.

Well,
NEW auction start with startprice of 3BTC




You can't do that.  If you have PM bids higher then they move the auction price and you post them on the topic, not change the rules.  Otherwise you don't post or start a topic in the Auctions section, you start a topic in the Goods or Digital Goods section with your terms. 

So you need to post your PMs in this topic for all potential bidders to see.  That is a definition of Auction.  BTW, I withdraw my bid per your new terms and because the previous auction obviously ended with you not holding to the original terms. 

Note to kncminer... if watching these things... THIS PROCESS OF TRYING TO ORDER YOUR PRODUCTS IS VERY FRUSTRATING!  Potential clients are being turned off by people not involved in your project or organization but that have the power over who gets your products or not.  VERY FRUSTRATING!
sr. member
Activity: 407
Merit: 250
Last post, scammer tag requested https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/scam-tag-request-for-idee2013-227961
Stop using your fake accounts to flag my posts.

I fear he is using multiple sales and lies to get impulsive people to buy just because of fake buzz.


wow...really nice of you....
1.please show me the multiple accounts? Every reports to delete your post came from my only one account. Ask John, gmaxwell and miningbuddy!
 
2. ask John if i had contacted him for escrow before i had made the very first post for selling the preorders:

Hello John,

SebastianJu wrote me, that i can ask you. I am a Avalon Chip buyer at his first batch oder and i am writen with him very much since a few weeks. I am from germany how him, too.
I have 3 Preoders for the first 1-500 KNC miners.
From knc Mail: "The desired goods: KNC Bitcoin miner numbers 1-500".
2 of the 3 pre-orders  (531 and 532) i would like to sell through an auction here when KNC opens the payments and when its proven, that there are legit through the openday.
I dont want to scam anybody and how can be the best way to prove that me and the 2 preoders are legit ? I could send you my ID card and forward the original KNC preoder mails.
I would like to sell only that preoders  and dont want the money from someone for the miners itself.
Could you please help me?

Thank you for an answer.



3. Ask the highest bidder if  he wrote me this pm:

OK I do a BID now at 5BTC

Uuhmm can you provide us in the highest bid in the public thread?
Or keep me updated 30 min before the end of the auction on friday,
at the end the price will dramatically go up. Bidding has no really
sense at the moment for the deep stacked people.

4. Ask Litebit (he  worte me a PM before the auction)   if have we have sent as this PMS a few minuts after i have moved this topic to the auction section:

If you're not using your numbers I'm interested. 
I can offer 2 BTC now or the first 24hours of the unit's hash when I get it.
Let me know. Cheers,
LiteBit

You are very lucky that it isn't posible to modify posts. i have forgotten to make a start price/bid with 3btc.

I thought I saw on there that you wanted it at .5 btc increments and nobody had bid yet. 

Tell you what, if nobody else wants them I'll give you .5 btc for each and throw in the first 24 hours of mining goes to you.  I just want to order some products and get them in a timely manner.  This whole process has been very frustrating to a lot of us who want to order these but can't because we didn't go to there site in April. And we have to pay for something free.

Keep me updated.  I'm watching the topic.
Cheers,
LiteBit


5. Ask Sam from KNC if i wrote him this mails and got this answer.






and now you really fucking kid? i think you have an iq under room ambient temperature!!!!
You are a real stalker!!
sr. member
Activity: 407
Merit: 250
this it that what i am saying all the days you were stalking me , but you did not unterstand it.
sr. member
Activity: 407
Merit: 250
Now that's honest and ADDING value.

People trying to sell things they took 0 risk in acquiring instantly make my ignore list

That's a bit unfair.  I had every intention of completing my order with KNC.  However, the deal changed, and I want out.  I wasted hours researching, and reading the threads. Hopes dashed again and again.
It might be 0 risk now, but at the time, it didn't feel that way.

I don't understand/trust the order queue system at all.  So for my auction, I am doing Escrow on the understanding I only get paid if the buyer actually gets their order confirmed in the top 500 after the 7 days is up.  Fairest way I think.

this it that what i am saying all the days you stalking, but you did not unterstand it.
sr. member
Activity: 407
Merit: 250
People trying to sell things they took 0 risk in acquiring instantly make my ignore list

That's a bit unfair.  I had every intention of completing my order with KNC.  However, the deal changed, and I want out.  I wasted hours researching, and reading the threads. Hopes dashed again and again.
It might be 0 risk now, but at the time, it didn't feel that way.

I don't understand/trust the order queue system at all.  So for my auction, I am doing Escrow on the understanding I only get paid if the buyer actually gets their order confirmed in the top 500 after the 7 days is up.  Fairest way I think.
+1
legendary
Activity: 2912
Merit: 1060
Now that's honest and ADDING value.

People trying to sell things they took 0 risk in acquiring instantly make my ignore list

That's a bit unfair.  I had every intention of completing my order with KNC.  However, the deal changed, and I want out.  I wasted hours researching, and reading the threads. Hopes dashed again and again.
It might be 0 risk now, but at the time, it didn't feel that way.

I don't understand/trust the order queue system at all.  So for my auction, I am doing Escrow on the understanding I only get paid if the buyer actually gets their order confirmed in the top 500 after the 7 days is up.  Fairest way I think.
legendary
Activity: 2912
Merit: 1060
Last post, scammer tag requested https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/scam-tag-request-for-idee2013-227961
Stop using your fake accounts to flag my posts.
hero member
Activity: 546
Merit: 500
People trying to sell things they took 0 risk in acquiring instantly make my ignore list

That's a bit unfair.  I had every intention of completing my order with KNC.  However, the deal changed, and I want out.  I wasted hours researching, and reading the threads. Hopes dashed again and again.
It might be 0 risk now, but at the time, it didn't feel that way.

I don't understand/trust the order queue system at all.  So for my auction, I am doing Escrow on the understanding I only get paid if the buyer actually gets their order confirmed in the top 500 after the 7 days is up.  Fairest way I think.
sr. member
Activity: 407
Merit: 250
Sorry LiteBit and all to want take part to this auction. I slept and thought about my forgotten startprice and i have decided to make a startprice
of 3 BTC for each spot, because i have allready bids if 4 and 5 BTC in PMs. Pleoples asked me if  can  do it as an auction to make it fair. So if all particpants  and who had write me a PM and wanted that i am fair, then its only fair when i am insisting for the forgotten startprice.

Well,
NEW auction start with startprice of 3BTC


sr. member
Activity: 407
Merit: 250
well, after hopefully cleared the situation and posts:

Actually bid : 0,5 BTC from LiteBit
legendary
Activity: 1133
Merit: 1050


+1
This has been a VERY FRUSTRATING situation a bunch of us are in because we want to order but can't without paying someone that has nothing to do with the project.  There have been some classy users that have given there spots away because they won't use them, but most are folks that are trying to make money.

1. First why are saying such things in an auction topic. Discuss it in an other one or open a new topic.
2. As you can see in this frist post i have ordered one miner for myself. So i am in the project! I thought as i have made the preorders  in april, KNC
will approximately will have the same prices as BFL. So i have made 3 orders.
Peoples asked me, if i could make an auction with the orders, therewith everyone get a chance to get an early preorder ID. So i made it to make it transparent and fair. And how you can see, i did not consist for the 3btc startprice.
In your version (to give it away), how does it work, that everyone can get a chance to get a preorder number??? I think you do not have an answer.
And as i have said you in an PM i had allready bids for 5 and 4 BTC. And if had sold it at this PM prices you would not have the chance to get it here.
So what so you want??? You are one of the peoples  those i am offering the chance!!
Think about it!
   

The frustration is with kncminer.com not us or you. Trust me, I'm thankful to have a chance.
sr. member
Activity: 407
Merit: 250


+1
This has been a VERY FRUSTRATING situation a bunch of us are in because we want to order but can't without paying someone that has nothing to do with the project.  There have been some classy users that have given there spots away because they won't use them, but most are folks that are trying to make money.

1. First why are saying such things in an auction topic. Discuss it in an other one or open a new topic.
2. As you can see in this frist post i have ordered one miner for myself. So i am in the project! I thought as i have made the preorders  in april, KNC
will approximately will have the same prices as BFL. So i have made 3 orders.
Peoples asked me, if i could make an auction with the orders, therewith everyone get a chance to get an early preorder ID. So i made it to make it transparent and fair. And how you can see, i did not consist for the 3btc startprice.
In your version (to give it away), how does it work, that everyone can get a chance to get a preorder number??? I think you do not have an answer.
And as i have said you in an PM i had allready bids for 5 and 4 BTC. And if had sold it at this PM prices you would not have the chance to get it here.
So what so you want??? You are one of the peoples  those i am offering the chance!!
Think about it!
   
legendary
Activity: 1133
Merit: 1050
Nah I'd say this is different.

For BFL pre-orders , folks had to lay down a significant amount of money to pre-order. Totally okay with that; folks can sell or keep their pre-orders as they liked.

This on the other hand is folks not intending to pay for an item. Instead of the products that were intended to be available for sale to folks who would buy them, these 'preorders' were secured only for profiteering... OP is not contributing anything, I highly doubt they had the funds available for the 4 'preorders' , and making a quick buck was the idea for the get-go.

Not saying this shouldn't happen or that people should not be able to buy this...but IMHO it's a jerk move, just like concert ticket scalpers who make themselves middlemen by keeping products out of legitimate customer's hands.

If anyone is to blame though I think it's more the KNC system they used...

+1
This has been a VERY FRUSTRATING situation a bunch of us are in because we want to order but can't without paying someone that has nothing to do with the project.  There have been some classy users that have given there spots away because they won't use them, but most are folks that are trying to make money.
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