Topic: [AUCTION] 5oz of .999 Fine Copper Bitcoin Penny Doodle |only 10 made - page 2. (Read 1874 times)
April 13, 2017, 02:26:17 PM
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April 13, 2017, 01:34:40 PM
This certainly is a nice thread
look forward to how high it goes
and i dont think that 0.1 bid should be valid given the username unless until the guy sends fund to the escrow before bidding
look forward to how high it goes
and i dont think that 0.1 bid should be valid given the username unless until the guy sends fund to the escrow before bidding
April 13, 2017, 11:25:44 AM
I agree right or wrong just set the auction start at the lowest price you would accept. No bids it doesnt sell no harm, ive seen with hidden reserves for most items people shy away from or with known "own" bids because you dont know if you are getting played or not. Just my opinion
April 13, 2017, 10:43:07 AM
I can recall a post where theymos says its okay to use alts to bid on your own auctions because you didn't say you wouldn't.
You are right I've never heard of shill bidding before
You are right I've never heard of shill bidding before
True. But allowing something simply because you didn't state that you wouldn't is a ridiculous opinion. For instance, in this auction thread, you didn't state that you wouldn't steal the high bidder's BTC and send him an empty box, but that doesn't make it right if you were to do so. I'm sure you understand now. Just set a high reserve next time, and all will be good.
Good luck with the auction.
Regards,
Chris
April 13, 2017, 10:35:50 AM
Are these copper doodles come with a paper one aswell ?
Short Answer: These copper doodles are one-off originals, with no paper copy.
Long Answer: Well, technically, everything, including my signatures front and back, were originally drawn on paper, then photographed, made digital, imported into Photoshop, then meticulously second-layer traced by me to create a digital doodle, which was then saved and provided to the copper artisan for engraving. So these doodles were hand-drawn, then digitally drawn (traced) by me. Unfortunately, only a few of the original paper doodles / sketches survived, and I didn't think it would be fair to include them with their matching Copper Doodles if everyone didn't get one. I hope that makes sense.
Regards,
Chris
April 13, 2017, 10:34:56 AM
Are you going to accept that bid? Unless it's your account it is clearly someone that might be trying to make fun of you. Considering the name and the fact you had this rule in place. It was created today and this was the first post it made. I'll stay away from this auction until you have made up your mind regarding that.
April 13, 2017, 10:26:12 AM
0.1BTC
stablegfuckblood
stablegfuckblood
LOL WTF?
Killyoustabfuckblood? I can't stop laughing. On a serious note... Yes, it's better to start with a high reserve. Bidding on your own auction under a different name (known or not) is called "shill bidding," (one of the many types, but most obvious) and it's generally considered a type of con perpetrated by untrustworthy ne'er-do-wells, which is why it's against the rules at auction houses (online or physical brick-and-mortar). Obviously, you didn't realize this, or you would've never done it. But now you know, and it's an easy lesson learned. Just set a reserve price next time -- the lowest you'll take. It's as simple as that.
Good luck with the auction.
Oh, and you may want to post photos of the front too.
Regards,
Chris
I can recall a post where theymos says its okay to use alts to bid on your own auctions because you didn't say you wouldn't.
You are right I've never heard of shill bidding before
April 13, 2017, 09:54:47 AM
Are these copper doodles come with a paper one aswell ?
April 13, 2017, 09:40:57 AM
0.1BTC
stablegfuckblood
stablegfuckblood
LOL WTF?
Killyoustabfuckblood? I can't stop laughing. On a serious note... Yes, it's better to start with a high reserve. Bidding on your own auction under a different name (known or not) is called "shill bidding," (one of the many types, but most obvious) and it's generally considered a type of con perpetrated by untrustworthy ne'er-do-wells, which is why it's against the rules at auction houses (online or physical brick-and-mortar). Obviously, you didn't realize this, or you would've never done it. But now you know, and it's an easy lesson learned. Just set a reserve price next time -- the lowest you'll take. It's as simple as that.
Good luck with the auction.
Oh, and you may want to post photos of the front too.
Regards,
Chris
April 13, 2017, 09:25:57 AM
no mate - but its awesome, wish it was.. I think Killyou is just the ultimate troll.
April 13, 2017, 08:57:57 AM
April 13, 2017, 08:44:11 AM
Is this auction still going or was this piece included in the lot you sold mj in the other thread?
I'll bid 0.06 and tman can back out. No need for drama.
I'll bid 0.06 and tman can back out. No need for drama.
Well I quoted your bid, that works for me.
MJ bought the paper doodles, not the copper one
Thanks.
So current high bid is me at 0.06BTC.
If I win I'd like it shipped to mj, thanks!
April 13, 2017, 08:43:29 AM
I have no issues with that rule. Since you at least stated it in the op. But perhaps for next time you could state that it was meant to meet your reserve and no other shenanigans. As said, at least you were upfront about it and not like some others that have bid on their own auctions without letting people know or used alts.
April 13, 2017, 08:41:39 AM
Is this auction still going or was this piece included in the lot you sold mj in the other thread?
I'll bid 0.06 and tman can back out. No need for drama.
I'll bid 0.06 and tman can back out. No need for drama.
Well I quoted your bid, that works for me.
MJ bought the paper doodles, not the copper one
April 13, 2017, 08:40:12 AM
My alt account killyou73 can bid
At first when I saw title of thread I was like ... "yaay"
then I read that quoted bit and thought, "duh! no chance"
Good luck
Viz
Well, I didnt want to put a reserve or secret reserve or start the auction at the price I would be happy to sell it for.
.01BTC
I hope you noticed I will not ship out of the USA. But your bid is accepted and currently the highest
0.06BTC
wow - sorry just seen your T & C.. My alt account killyou73 can bid sorry please cancel my bid..
WTF - you can bid yourself up? you must be totally insane.
Why would you cancel your bid? I could have left the line out and still bid on my alt account, theymos has stated that before, I think I actually have it linked in the OP of one of my auctions.
You can clearly see if I bid or not with my alt, having that 1 rule avoids the 20 other silly ones I could have put up.
I don't understand why you would bid without reading, Its not even that much text. So I can cancel your bid for a fee of .01 BTC if you would like or someone outbids you in the next week.
What we don't need is another seller/maker bidding up their own auctions.....
Why would anyone bid when you can just outbid them and keep the item???
And how are you enforcing the "bid cancellation" fee??
I am not enforcing the bid cancellation fee, but I got a ton of shit of bidding on auctions and canceling my bid and getting shit for it, but it looks like if TMAN does it, it is totally okay right.
If I wanted to keep them, why would I be auctioning them.
I could have started this at my reserve, which I would have not needed that rule, but TMAN's bid is technically the highest because I won't "honor" him canceling, as sure as I am sure if he wins he will not "honor" his bid, but his bid of .06 BTC went past my reserve so my alt won't be bidding, but I am not going to be changing the rules/anything about this auction.
April 13, 2017, 08:38:48 AM
Is this auction still going or was this piece included in the lot you sold mj in the other thread?
I'll bid 0.06 and tman can back out. No need for drama.
I'll bid 0.06 and tman can back out. No need for drama.
April 13, 2017, 08:34:50 AM
My alt account killyou73 can bid
At first when I saw title of thread I was like ... "yaay"
then I read that quoted bit and thought, "duh! no chance"
Good luck
Viz
Well, I didnt want to put a reserve or secret reserve or start the auction at the price I would be happy to sell it for.
.01BTC
I hope you noticed I will not ship out of the USA. But your bid is accepted and currently the highest
0.06BTC
wow - sorry just seen your T & C.. My alt account killyou73 can bid sorry please cancel my bid..
WTF - you can bid yourself up? you must be totally insane.
Why would you cancel your bid? I could have left the line out and still bid on my alt account, theymos has stated that before, I think I actually have it linked in the OP of one of my auctions.
You can clearly see if I bid or not with my alt, having that 1 rule avoids the 20 other silly ones I could have put up.
I don't understand why you would bid without reading, Its not even that much text. So I can cancel your bid for a fee of .01 BTC if you would like or someone outbids you in the next week.
What we don't need is another seller/maker bidding up their own auctions.....
Why would anyone bid when you can just outbid them and keep the item???
And how are you enforcing the "bid cancellation" fee??
April 13, 2017, 08:22:41 AM
My alt account killyou73 can bid
At first when I saw title of thread I was like ... "yaay"
then I read that quoted bit and thought, "duh! no chance"
Good luck
Viz
Well, I didnt want to put a reserve or secret reserve or start the auction at the price I would be happy to sell it for.
.01BTC
I hope you noticed I will not ship out of the USA. But your bid is accepted and currently the highest
0.06BTC
wow - sorry just seen your T & C.. My alt account killyou73 can bid sorry please cancel my bid..
WTF - you can bid yourself up? you must be totally insane.
Why would you cancel your bid? I could have left the line out and still bid on my alt account, theymos has stated that before, I think I actually have it linked in the OP of one of my auctions.
You can clearly see if I bid or not with my alt, having that 1 rule avoids the 20 other silly ones I could have put up.
I don't understand why you would bid without reading, Its not even that much text. So I can cancel your bid for a fee of .01 BTC if you would like or someone outbids you in the next week.
April 13, 2017, 08:17:00 AM
.01BTC
I hope you noticed I will not ship out of the USA. But your bid is accepted and currently the highest
0.06BTC
wow - sorry just seen your T & C.. My alt account killyou73 can bid sorry please cancel my bid..
WTF - you can bid yourself up? you must be totally insane.
April 13, 2017, 08:14:52 AM
My alt account killyou73 can bid
At first when I saw title of thread I was like ... "yaay"
then I read that quoted bit and thought, "duh! no chance"
Good luck
Viz
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