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Topic: [Auction] Casascius 2013 S3 Silver Half 0.5 BTC, not graded - page 2. (Read 1247 times)

legendary
Activity: 1511
Merit: 1072
quack

I'm sorry for the caused inconvenience. I do understand that some wallet setups may not be accessible in such a short notice.
That being said, I do think it was a fair call to discard your bid, because you have no history here. The common practice in these cases is to ask for a safety deposit.
There have been cases here where new non-established members, members without history, have trolled and even wrecked auctions by bidding and not honoring bids. It would have been unfair to other bidders to let you bid without a safety deposit due to that. I do think that you're a legitimate member. It's just that certain status or safety deposit is required to make auctions fair for everyone.

You are right that auction rules do not state anything about safety deposits. But as Lauda mentioned, it's kind of a common practice around here to ask newbies to provide safety deposit. I'll be having this notice in my future auctions. Also, I should've mentioned this to you earlier, but it simply didn't cross my mind, and I'm sorry for that. I hope we'll see you participating in future auctions.
legendary
Activity: 1253
Merit: 1203
What are f you all talking about, I was willing to pay 0.8 for the coin no problem with escrow from Miner Jones/ Og Nasty.
There was no rule of newbie dposit 0,2 so
Now Anduck gets 0.75 congratulations to you guys!


You're right there are no rules at all for this board. We self govern. You could not fulfill a 1/4 of bid deposit to validate yourself hence you were politely excused from the auction. At the time there was still two hours left(three now counting extensions), you could have gone to your safety deposit box or wherever you keep your cold wallet if you really really really wanted this coin. There will be future auctions and there will no doubt be Cas Silver Halfs around, I recommend you be able to fulfill whatever is asked of you because it will be asked for again in order for your bid to count.

This was a 4 day auction. You had time if you were watching. An auctioneer taking a lower bid while there are higher unverified bids out there goes to show you the importance/value we place on trust and ease of transaction here. There have been trainwreck auctions for a long time in here and its just a cover your own ass kind of thing now, nothing personal against newbie/unfamiliar bidders but you will be asked for things like this.

I did several bids, nobody complained.
Then when it seemed like I would get the coin, the rules were changed.
I wanted the coin and would have paid 0.8 for it.
But sometimes it goes like this.

From now on it goes like this.

Why so hostile, I just wanted to buy a coin.
Keep your skirt on jeez.

But I won't bid on y'alls auctions anymore, don't worry.

Feel free to PM Lauda multiple times daily if you have any more questions. They'll be able to assist you in the future. Grown ups are trying to do business here still.
copper member
Activity: 1918
Merit: 254
newbie
Activity: 75
Merit: 0
What are f you all talking about, I was willing to pay 0.8 for the coin no problem with escrow from Miner Jones/ Og Nasty.
There was no rule of newbie dposit 0,2 so
Now Anduck gets 0.75 congratulations to you guys!


You're right there are no rules at all for this board. We self govern. You could not fulfill a 1/4 of bid deposit to validate yourself hence you were politely excused from the auction. At the time there was still two hours left(three now counting extensions), you could have gone to your safety deposit box or wherever you keep your cold wallet if you really really really wanted this coin. There will be future auctions and there will no doubt be Cas Silver Halfs around, I recommend you be able to fulfill whatever is asked of you because it will be asked for again in order for your bid to count.

This was a 4 day auction. You had time if you were watching. An auctioneer taking a lower bid while there are higher unverified bids out there goes to show you the importance/value we place on trust and ease of transaction here. There have been trainwreck auctions for a long time in here and its just a cover your own ass kind of thing now, nothing personal against newbie/unfamiliar bidders but you will be asked for things like this.

I did several bids, nobody complained.
Then when it seemed like I would get the coin, the rules were changed.
I wanted the coin and would have paid 0.8 for it.
But sometimes it goes like this.

From now on it goes like this.

Why so hostile, I just wanted to buy a coin.
Keep your skirt on jeez.

But I won't bid on y'alls auctions anymore, don't worry.
newbie
Activity: 75
Merit: 0
1. There was NO rule where newbie should deposit 0.2 this was implemented during action, changing the rules.
This is common practice; no rules necessary.

Says you

2. When funds are in cold storage, you can't just deposit them.
Horrible management practice. Just leave it, and remember next time to have a safety deposit ready.

Cold storage - Horrible management practice - Ok whatever.

Don't worry, I won't be bidding in this cartel again, so you guys can keep the price down I don't care.
legendary
Activity: 1253
Merit: 1203
What are f you all talking about, I was willing to pay 0.8 for the coin no problem with escrow from Miner Jones/ Og Nasty.
There was no rule of newbie dposit 0,2 so
Now Anduck gets 0.75 congratulations to you guys!


You're right there are no rules at all for this board. We self govern. You could not fulfill a 1/4 of bid deposit to validate yourself hence you were politely excused from the auction. At the time there was still two hours left(three now counting extensions), you could have gone to your safety deposit box or wherever you keep your cold wallet if you really really really wanted this coin. There will be future auctions and there will no doubt be Cas Silver Halfs around, I recommend you be able to fulfill whatever is asked of you because it will be asked for again in order for your bid to count.

This was a 4 day auction. You had time if you were watching. An auctioneer taking a lower bid while there are higher unverified bids out there goes to show you the importance/value we place on trust and ease of transaction here. There have been trainwreck auctions for a long time in here and its just a cover your own ass kind of thing now, nothing personal against newbie/unfamiliar bidders but you will be asked for things like this.

I did several bids, nobody complained.
Then when it seemed like I would get the coin, the rules were changed.
I wanted the coin and would have paid 0.8 for it.
But sometimes it goes like this.

From now on it goes like this.
newbie
Activity: 75
Merit: 0
What are f you all talking about, I was willing to pay 0.8 for the coin no problem with escrow from Miner Jones/ Og Nasty.
There was no rule of newbie dposit 0,2 so
Now Anduck gets 0.75 congratulations to you guys!


You're right there are no rules at all for this board. We self govern. You could not fulfill a 1/4 of bid deposit to validate yourself hence you were politely excused from the auction. At the time there was still two hours left(three now counting extensions), you could have gone to your safety deposit box or wherever you keep your cold wallet if you really really really wanted this coin. There will be future auctions and there will no doubt be Cas Silver Halfs around, I recommend you be able to fulfill whatever is asked of you because it will be asked for again in order for your bid to count.

This was a 4 day auction. You had time if you were watching. An auctioneer taking a lower bid while there are higher unverified bids out there goes to show you the importance/value we place on trust and ease of transaction here. There have been trainwreck auctions for a long time in here and its just a cover your own ass kind of thing now, nothing personal against newbie/unfamiliar bidders but you will be asked for things like this.

I did several bids, nobody complained.
Then when it seemed like I would get the coin, the rules were changed.
I wanted the coin and would have paid 0.8 for it.
But sometimes it goes like this.
legendary
Activity: 2674
Merit: 2965
Terminated.
1. There was NO rule where newbie should deposit 0.2 this was implemented during action, changing the rules.
This is common practice; no rules necessary.

2. When funds are in cold storage, you can't just deposit them.
Horrible management practice. Just leave it, and remember next time to have a safety deposit ready.
legendary
Activity: 2212
Merit: 1118
Lie down. Have a cookie
newbie
Activity: 75
Merit: 0
What are f you all talking about, I was willing to pay 0.8 for the coin no problem with escrow from Miner Jones/ Og Nasty.
There was no rule of newbie dposit 0,2 so
Now Anduck gets 0.75 congratulations to you guys!


I don’t want to be interfere, but even with cold storage, you could have made the deposit if you really wanted this coin. Just make sure to keep some satoshis at hand for the next one, to avoid similar issues.

Cheers!

1. There was NO rule where newbie should deposit 0.2 this was implemented during action, changing the rules.
2. When funds are in cold storage, you can't just deposit them.

Again I was willing to pay 0.8 and even higher but that water under the bridge now.
I will obtain a 0.5 silver no problem.
copper member
Activity: 970
Merit: 287
Per aspera ad astra
What are f you all talking about, I was willing to pay 0.8 for the coin no problem with escrow from Miner Jones/ Og Nasty.
There was no rule of newbie dposit 0,2 so
Now Anduck gets 0.75 congratulations to you guys!


I don’t want to interfere, but even with cold storage, you could have made the deposit if you really wanted this coin. Just make sure to keep some satoshis at hand for the next one to avoid similar issues.

Cheers!
legendary
Activity: 1253
Merit: 1203
What are f you all talking about, I was willing to pay 0.8 for the coin no problem with escrow from Miner Jones/ Og Nasty.
There was no rule of newbie dposit 0,2 so
Now Anduck gets 0.75 congratulations to you guys!


You're right there are no rules at all for this board. We self govern. You could not fulfill a 1/4 of bid deposit to validate yourself hence you were politely excused from the auction. At the time there was still two hours left(three now counting extensions), you could have gone to your safety deposit box or wherever you keep your cold wallet if you really really really wanted this coin. There will be future auctions and there will no doubt be Cas Silver Halfs around, I recommend you be able to fulfill whatever is asked of you because it will be asked for again in order for your bid to count.

This was a 4 day auction. You had time if you were watching. An auctioneer taking a lower bid while there are higher unverified bids out there goes to show you the importance/value we place on trust and ease of transaction here. There have been trainwreck auctions for a long time in here and its just a cover your own ass kind of thing now, nothing personal against newbie/unfamiliar bidders but you will be asked for things like this.
copper member
Activity: 1918
Merit: 254
newbie
Activity: 75
Merit: 0
What are f you all talking about, I was willing to pay 0.8 for the coin no problem with escrow from Miner Jones/ Og Nasty.
There was no rule of newbie dposit 0,2 so
Now Anduck gets 0.75 congratulations to you guys!
legendary
Activity: 1253
Merit: 1203
And then here is where the newbie bidder unable to prove themselves causes another problem, hopefully greenplastic knows that out of respect for his valid bids and someone possibly bidding him up that his bid was lowered, but now the current winning bid is what he had bid up to previous...

This crossed my mind also. That bid by greenplastic could have been kept valid, but it was on top of an invalid bid, so was lowered to a minimum bid after last valid bid. Can't really choose both to keep it at bidded value and lower to minimum. I think more fair option was to lower it to last+minimum than to honor "maximum bid" at 0.75.

No longer an issue.   Wink

lol phew, it almost looked like a worst case scenario train wreck of good and proper intentions by Anduck aided by me lol
legendary
Activity: 2212
Merit: 1118
Lie down. Have a cookie
legendary
Activity: 1456
Merit: 1242
And then here is where the newbie bidder unable to prove themselves causes another problem, hopefully greenplastic knows that out of respect for his valid bids and someone possibly bidding him up that his bid was lowered, but now the current winning bid is what he had bid up to previous...

This crossed my mind also. That bid by greenplastic could have been kept valid, but it was on top of an invalid bid, so was lowered to a minimum bid after last valid bid. Can't really choose both to keep it at bidded value and lower to minimum. I think more fair option was to lower it to last+minimum than to honor "maximum bid" at 0.75.

No longer an issue.   Wink
copper member
Activity: 228
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legendary
Activity: 1511
Merit: 1072
quack
And then here is where the newbie bidder unable to prove themselves causes another problem, hopefully greenplastic knows that out of respect for his valid bids and someone possibly bidding him up that his bid was lowered, but now the current winning bid is what he had bid up to previous...

This crossed my mind also. That bid by greenplastic could have been kept valid, but it was on top of an invalid bid, so was lowered to a minimum bid after last valid bid. Can't really choose both to keep it at bidded value and lower to minimum. I think more fair option was to lower it to last+minimum than to honor "maximum bid" at 0.75.
legendary
Activity: 1253
Merit: 1203
And then here is where the newbie bidder unable to prove themselves causes another problem, hopefully greenplastic knows that out of respect for his valid bids and someone possibly bidding him up that his bid was lowered, but now the current winning bid is what he had bid up to previous...
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