[Auction] Da Dice | Next Generation Dicing Experience - page 2.

ndnh

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Quote from: Quickseller on September 01, 2015, 08:51:54 AM

To think otherwise is like believing someone who has a history of scamming when they say they aren't going to steal from you if you trust them with your money again.

Liar! Give me one, just one case.. How can you lie like this?

Do you get paid by competition? (I thought you didn't till today)
What is your motive here? I doubt it is hardly anything to do with what you pretend to.

heutanomos

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Quote from: Quickseller on September 01, 2015, 08:51:54 AM

Why would it be a good idea to trust the "proof" of revenue when they are lying about other aspects of their site? Even if you can independently verify their revenue numbers, that doesn't mean that the revenue is not from their own gambling, and being dishonest about one thing is an indication they are going to be dishonest about other things as well.

To think otherwise is like believing someone who has a history of scamming when they say they aren't going to steal from you if you trust them with your money again. Cheesy

I am surprised as to how many naive people are defending DaDice, and am surprised how much dust signature earning have such an influence on people.
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Even if you can independently verify their revenue numbers, that doesn't mean that the revenue is not from their own gambling

Will you trust that if they prove funds solvency ? I guess not. And tell me how will you verify the revenue because admin can always gamble as mentioned by you, and on that basis no site should auction their site ?

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and being dishonest about one thing is an indication they are going to be dishonest about other things as well.

They were not proved dishonest yet, if ~~you~~ ok I don't show ~~your~~ my balls does't mean you don't have buddy. So yes you can say they had not proved but at the same side you can't all them scammer on that basis.

Yes if a member can prove they failed to process a withdrawal I will be happy to cal them scammer.

ndnh

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Quote from: Quickseller on September 01, 2015, 08:51:54 AM

To think otherwise is like believing someone who has a history of scamming when they say they aren't going to steal from you if you trust them with your money again. Cheesy

LOL, I yet again point you to the fact that Da Dice never scammed anyone. Tongue

Get your facts right before you argue.

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Ndnhc, if you guys truly want to sell the site, I'd suggest you clear up some things first. It'll greatly increase your chances at making a sale...
riseDARK, the stats of the site could easily be fake.

dadice

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This is just to confirm that this auction thread is indeed legitimate.

Thank you!

Quickseller

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Quote from: riseDARK on September 01, 2015, 08:37:41 AM

Quote from: Quickseller on September 01, 2015, 08:30:33 AM

Solvency matters because it allows a potential bidder to determine the chances of claims of cheating coming out in the future. It would also allow a bidder to determine how reliable information from the current owners are....if they are lying about how much money they have then why should I believe their revenue numbers?

Okay please explain some more queries

So if someone provides solvency, then you sure he can't be wrong of telling about revenue from site ? I don't think so. Plus the site always said they can show revenue proofs.

The buyers needs to have brain and serious coders for him to check script and everything rather than blindly trust the owner, just because he provided solvency proof.

And if so, again why does solvency matters ?

Thanks for your informational replies

I personally gambled some funds there and never had any issues, all were smooth and swift from their side

, so wonder why you ~~jealous~~
sorry protective against them.

Why would it be a good idea to trust the "proof" of revenue when they are lying about other aspects of their site? Even if you can independently verify their revenue numbers, that doesn't mean that the revenue is not from their own gambling, and being dishonest about one thing is an indication they are going to be dishonest about other things as well.

To think otherwise is like believing someone who has a history of scamming when they say they aren't going to steal from you if you trust them with your money again. Cheesy

I am surprised as to how many naive people are defending DaDice, and am surprised how much dust signature earning have such an influence on people.

ndnh

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Quote from: shitaifan2013 on September 01, 2015, 08:34:52 AM

maybe I am stupid, but I'm certainly right with calling this one out Wink

people should know the whole story, before throwing precious BTC out the window.

They would. But not your lies please. Tongue

To be honest, it is irrelevant for a bidder as riskDARK pointed out. And it also means the potential buyer can make things work better.

Quote from: Quickseller on September 01, 2015, 08:30:33 AM

Solvency matters because it allows a potential bidder to determine the chances of claims of cheating coming out in the future. It would also allow a bidder to determine how reliable information from the current owners are....if they are lying about how much money they have then why should I believe their revenue numbers?

Okay, so you agree that dadice has no requirement to prove it to you who is not a bidder (or a player now*). Thanks.

*Sorry for your 1.2BTC loss a few months back. I hope they are completely unrelated.

By the way, ask PrimeDice to provide their cold wallet address. They must be completely unreliable and untrustworthy by now. Tongue

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Quote from: Quickseller on September 01, 2015, 08:30:33 AM

Solvency matters because it allows a potential bidder to determine the chances of claims of cheating coming out in the future. It would also allow a bidder to determine how reliable information from the current owners are....if they are lying about how much money they have then why should I believe their revenue numbers?

Okay please explain some more queries

So if someone provides solvency, then you sure he can't be wrong of telling about revenue from site ? I don't think so. Plus the site always said they can show revenue proofs.

The buyers needs to have brain and serious coders for him to check script and everything rather than blindly trust the owner, just because he provided solvency proof.

And if so, again why does solvency matters ?

Thanks for your informational replies

I personally gambled some funds there and never had any issues, all were smooth and swift from their side

, so wonder why you ~~jealous~~
sorry protective against them.

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Quote from: ndnh on September 01, 2015, 07:58:03 AM

Quote from: Quickseller on September 01, 2015, 07:46:39 AM

Sure, if the bankroll can be proven then I would certainly consider tossing up a bid.

Can you even sign an address with 300BTC? Tongue

"might be willing to" and "consider tossing". Give a guarantee if you can. The bid must be at least 300BTC as per the rules of auction.

Quote from: shitaifan2013 on September 01, 2015, 07:47:09 AM

baseless stuff.

Are you just stupid or what? Campaign was done by the current management, and they spent 60BTC on it. What is your problem with that if they are fine with it? It isn't your money, or was it? Tongue

Every roll is archived, public and fully transparent at stats.dadice.com.

Can't you just stop posting and mind your business?

maybe I am stupid, but I'm certainly right with calling this one out Wink

people should know the whole story, before throwing precious BTC out the window.

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Solvency matters because it allows a potential bidder to determine the chances of claims of cheating coming out in the future. It would also allow a bidder to determine how reliable information from the current owners are....if they are lying about how much money they have then why should I believe their revenue numbers?

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Quote from: Quickseller on September 01, 2015, 08:23:34 AM

Like I said I will consider it. If I can look at their current ability to generate revenue and it is potentially going to be net cash flow positive for me over the long run then I may. However without proof of solvency then I would not even bother looking into it.

Please tell me how does the solvency matters to bidders ? they will get site , script and all I think but no funds from owner. I am curious in knowing this bro

Yes when mentioned in dadice thread in gambling section that was right because gamblers were risking money and need solvency of funds, but why bidders need that ?

Very curious for the explanation bro

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Like I said I will consider it. If I can look at their current ability to generate revenue and it is potentially going to be net cash flow positive for me over the long run then I may. However without proof of solvency then I would not even bother looking into it.

ndnh

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Interested bidders are requested to contact dadice : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=pm;sa=send;u=444316 for queries, questions and everything else.

Understand that the only valid reason being discussed here is the proof of solvency and the buyer can disclose the signed cold wallet address as he prefers, since the current investors will be exiting.

Thanks

riseDARK

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Well QS can you explain me something, if he proves the ownership ( solvency ) of those funds as told by them, will you buy the site or at least BID , I think it doesn't matter even if they have that those much funds, because you wont be getting the funds from them, and apart from that you are getting working script and running site.

Was this post just to make sure you get the best from your signature which you auction often. I don't think a signature earner will ever buy a site or ever dream of it, unless the person pays you 10-30 btc a month for your signature.

If you had no intention to buy this site, you can simply post in scam accusions if you feel they cheated. Why spam here ?

I know I am bit new to tell you but that doesn't mean you will rule the forum with your own rules, don't neg rep me please . Hope you like to discuss things rather than getting rid of them.

ndnh

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Quote from: Quickseller on September 01, 2015, 08:01:46 AM

I don't have 300BTC but I do have that much fiat and could buy BTC if necessary.

No I will not agree to put up a bid...

Never expected you to.

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I also think it is extremely hypocritical that you are asking for proof of my ability to pay a potential auction bid when you consistently claim that DaDice should be trusted after they refused to prove their solvency.

As if you gave it. Tongue

Quickseller

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I don't have 300BTC but I do have that much fiat and could buy BTC if necessary.

No I will not agree to put up a bid, I am only saying that I will consider placing one upon seeing proof of solvency of DaDice.

I also think it is extremely hypocritical that you are asking for proof of my ability to pay a potential auction bid when you consistently claim that DaDice should be trusted after they refused to prove their solvency.

ndnh

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Quote from: Quickseller on September 01, 2015, 07:46:39 AM

Sure, if the bankroll can be proven then I would certainly consider tossing up a bid.

Can you even sign an address with 300BTC? Tongue

"might be willing to" and "consider tossing". Give a guarantee if you can. The bid must be at least 300BTC as per the rules of auction.

Quote from: shitaifan2013 on September 01, 2015, 07:47:09 AM

baseless stuff.

Are you just stupid or what? Campaign was done by the current management, and they spent 60BTC on it. What is your problem with that if they are fine with it? It isn't your money, or was it? Tongue

Every roll is archived, public and fully transparent at stats.dadice.com.

Can't you just stop posting and mind your business?

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Quote from: ndnh on September 01, 2015, 07:40:32 AM

Sad to see the thread being hijacked.

Quote from: shitaifan2013 on September 01, 2015, 07:26:33 AM

before anyone gets lured into buying this deah horse by false promises. the site is for sale since the "management" fucked up its own buisness from the very beginning and didn't make a single BTC profit since its launch.

Baseless accusation with malicious intent.

You can check : https://stats.dadice.com/ for statistics.
Revenue at the moment is around 81BTC.

Quote from: Quickseller on September 01, 2015, 07:29:36 AM

To be more specific then my "lol" post that was apparently not specific enough.

It is obviously a bad idea to bid on this site, there is basically zero actually gambling volume meaning that any bidder is unlikely to start making any significant amount of BTC from players' gambling losses without first doing additional marketing. DaDice is involved in a large amount of controversy and I would not be surprised if there would be a claim that they were cheating players after a potential sale.

There is also the issue that it would be difficult to actually prove the ownership changed so preexisting controversy and skepticism would remain.

With that being said, I might be willing to toss up a bid if they can prove their current bankroll. Cheesy

Total wagered on the site is 11,772BTC.
This has been achieved, even though:
1. The push was given to getting more players in the initial phase.
2. A mysterious bunch of people kept harrasing DD. (The buyer can avoid this)

The buyer is free to make their bankroll address public if he so wishes.

Honestly, everyone prefers someone of good repute and/or good track record to take over the site.

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With that being said, I might be willing to toss up a bid if they can prove their current bankroll. Cheesy

That is the second time you are lying. Can you confirm that you will?

not baseless nor malicious. check their marketing expenses for the sig campaign alone which exceeds 60BTC, now add all the other expenses they've claimed so far and you'll see that the site is heavily in the red despite all that btc thrown out the window. we covered that topic before on the dadice thread, so this is no thread hijacking but rather a fair warning for everyone at the risk of being deceived. it's also known and has been discussed that their stats page isnt showing the full story. a good amount of traffic and wagered is also due to the faucet, so no real profit generated. and some players like their admin or dev who has one of the biggest wagered amounts on site isn't even showing up in the stats.

it is rather you who has malicious intents helping to sell a scam in spe.

Quickseller

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Sure, if the bankroll can be proven then I would certainly consider tossing up a bid.

ndnh

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Sad to see the thread being hijacked.

Quote from: shitaifan2013 on September 01, 2015, 07:26:33 AM

before anyone gets lured into buying this deah horse by false promises. the site is for sale since the "management" fucked up its own buisness from the very beginning and didn't make a single BTC profit since its launch.

Baseless accusation with malicious intent.

You can check : https://stats.dadice.com/ for statistics.
Revenue at the moment is around 81BTC.

Quote from: Quickseller on September 01, 2015, 07:29:36 AM

To be more specific then my "lol" post that was apparently not specific enough.

It is obviously a bad idea to bid on this site, there is basically zero actually gambling volume meaning that any bidder is unlikely to start making any significant amount of BTC from players' gambling losses without first doing additional marketing. DaDice is involved in a large amount of controversy and I would not be surprised if there would be a claim that they were cheating players after a potential sale.

There is also the issue that it would be difficult to actually prove the ownership changed so preexisting controversy and skepticism would remain.

With that being said, I might be willing to toss up a bid if they can prove their current bankroll. Cheesy

Total wagered on the site is 11,772BTC.
This has been achieved, even though:
1. The push was given to getting more players in the initial phase.
2. A mysterious bunch of people kept harrasing DD. (The buyer can avoid this)

The buyer is free to make their bankroll address public if he so wishes.

Honestly, everyone prefers someone of good repute and/or good track record to take over the site.

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With that being said, I might be willing to toss up a bid if they can prove their current bankroll. Cheesy

That is the second time you are lying. Can you confirm that you will?

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