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Topic: Auction: Limited 1500 Polymer Gerneric Bitcoin Papper Wallet - Bitcoin Suisse AG - page 2. (Read 731 times)

legendary
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These are great notes and as someone said they do not come up for sale often.  I really like the fact that it is issued by a real financial institution based in Switzerland (to my knowledge the first BTC bearer notes issued by any financial institution) and they are each hand signed by the President of Bitcoin Suisse as well as the CEO.

Interestingly, the CEO is Niklas Nikolajsen who made headlines yesterday for naming a hockey stadium "Bitcoin Arena" by sponsoring a professional Danish ice hockey team.  The arena will feature a large Bitcoin logo in the middle of the ice. Source below:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/7jri98/danish_bitcoin_billionaire_new_sponsor_of/
sr. member
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I edited my first post in this thread with the following:

Edit 15.12.2017: This wallet is not loaded and never was loaded!
sr. member
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I just scanned the bar code and it is not loaded. Balance zero.


Where does it say that its loaded? Those where sold unloaded.

This is a Series One certificate some of which were sold unloaded. You can tell by the generic bitcoin symbol without an amount stated. Mintage was 1500 of the unloaded and cost was ten CHF. Total number made including the loaded notes was 9999. Good luck with the auction!

Correct with the 9999. But if it cost 10 CHF back in 2014, I have no idea. I picked this wallet up last week here in Switzerland and paid a lot more than 10 CHF.
Also if you are able to show me one of these wallets selling lower than 0.015 BTC, I will lower the starting bid to that price  Wink

These wallets never come up for sale, I sold a peeled one for about $50 if I remember right

This one ain't peeled  Wink
sr. member
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Address on the note is: 1DeUyhUaEsUwsny3skZd4KsAwZ43XMK3Aa

This item looks to be unloaded, the line in the OP that may be confusing regarding funding is:

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Bitcoin Suisse register the unique fingerprint of each bill – along with the TxId (transaction ID) associated with the loading of the certificate. These data are to be published in an accessible register to ensure that people can trust that certificates obtained from 3rd party are genuine and loaded.

Like stated in my first post of this thread -> the statements are not from me. These were the original words of Bitcoin Suisse.

Just to clarify again: This is the generic polymer Bitcoin Suisse AG wallet limited to 1500 which is NOT loaded and never was loaded.

Appreciate it and thanks for the clarification.  It would stink to have a bidder win that believes it's funded because they didn't read the follow up posts and my only recommendation is to add the public address (I copied it down from your image) or a note that it isn't funded in the OP.

Otherwise it's a great item and I'd think your starting bid is more than reasonable for the time being.  Smiley

Ok got it thanks. This is my first auction, but thanks for the tips. Will definatly consider them in my future auctions.
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I just scanned the bar code and it is not loaded. Balance zero.


Where does it say that its loaded? Those where sold unloaded.

This is a Series One certificate some of which were sold unloaded. You can tell by the generic bitcoin symbol without an amount stated. Mintage was 1500 of the unloaded and cost was ten CHF. Total number made including the loaded notes was 9999. Good luck with the auction!

Correct with the 9999. But if it cost 10 CHF back in 2014, I have no idea. I picked this wallet up last week here in Switzerland and paid a lot more than 10 CHF.
Also if you are able to show me one of these wallets selling lower than 0.015 BTC, I will lower the starting bid to that price  Wink

These wallets never come up for sale, I sold a peeled one for about $50 if I remember right
legendary
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Address on the note is: 1DeUyhUaEsUwsny3skZd4KsAwZ43XMK3Aa

This item looks to be unloaded, the line in the OP that may be confusing regarding funding is:

Quote
Bitcoin Suisse register the unique fingerprint of each bill – along with the TxId (transaction ID) associated with the loading of the certificate. These data are to be published in an accessible register to ensure that people can trust that certificates obtained from 3rd party are genuine and loaded.

Like stated in my first post of this thread -> the statements are not from me. These were the original words of Bitcoin Suisse.

Just to clarify again: This is the generic polymer Bitcoin Suisse AG wallet limited to 1500 which is NOT loaded and never was loaded.

Appreciate it and thanks for the clarification.  It would stink to have a bidder win that believes it's funded because they didn't read the follow up posts and my only recommendation is to add the public address (I copied it down from your image) or a note that it isn't funded in the OP.

Otherwise it's a great item and I'd think your starting bid is more than reasonable for the time being.  Smiley
legendary
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sr. member
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I just scanned the bar code and it is not loaded. Balance zero.


Where does it say that its loaded? Those where sold unloaded.

This is a Series One certificate some of which were sold unloaded. You can tell by the generic bitcoin symbol without an amount stated. Mintage was 1500 of the unloaded and cost was ten CHF. Total number made including the loaded notes was 9999. Good luck with the auction!

Correct with the 9999. But if it cost 10 CHF back in 2014, I have no idea. I picked this wallet up last week here in Switzerland and paid a lot more than 10 CHF.
Also if you are able to show me one of these wallets selling lower than 0.015 BTC, I will lower the starting bid to that price  Wink
sr. member
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Great piece, love the Bitcoin Suisse certificates Smiley.

A few questions..

1) This is never taken out of it's plastic sleeve which means we can assume it is still loaded?
2) "I reserve the right to cancel the auction if the minimum bid is not met" - Do you mean the starting bid or do you have a reserve and won't let it go if it does not get up to that?

Thanks.

In 2014 Bitcoin Suisse AG released 5 Wallets:

100 Milli Bitcoin limited to 4000 pieces

500 Milli Bitcoin limited to 1999 pieces

1 Bitcoin limited to 2000 pieces

10 Bitcoin limited to 500 pieces

These 4 wallets were loaded with the amounts above.

They also released 1500 pieces of the generic wallets which where NOT loaded. And the wallet up for auction is one of these.

Obviously I will be send the polymer paper wallet to "minerjones" and he can then confirm to the winner of the auction that the wallet is still in original plastic sleeve and that everything is as stated by me.


Seeing that I don't now if the BTC price will go up or down in the next 10 days, I set myself a reserve in swiss francs which I would like to have for me to part with this wallet.

Any more questions? Feel free to ask.

Don't you think that hidden reserve auctions are a waste of time and space?


Also an auction with a hidden reserve with no prove is not fair

Fair point!

Ok I guess its a 50:50 chance that BTC will go up or done in the next 10 days.

I hereby declare that there will be no "reserve" anymore.

Starting bid stays the same = 0.015 BTC
legendary
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I just scanned the bar code and it is not loaded. Balance zero.


Where does it say that its loaded? Those where sold unloaded.

This is a Series One certificate some of which were sold unloaded. You can tell by the generic bitcoin symbol without an amount stated. Mintage was 1500 of the unloaded and cost was ten CHF. Total number made including the loaded notes was 9999. Good luck with the auction!
legendary
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Meh.
Great piece, love the Bitcoin Suisse certificates Smiley.

A few questions..

1) This is never taken out of it's plastic sleeve which means we can assume it is still loaded?
2) "I reserve the right to cancel the auction if the minimum bid is not met" - Do you mean the starting bid or do you have a reserve and won't let it go if it does not get up to that?

Thanks.

In 2014 Bitcoin Suisse AG released 5 Wallets:

100 Milli Bitcoin limited to 4000 pieces

500 Milli Bitcoin limited to 1999 pieces

1 Bitcoin limited to 2000 pieces

10 Bitcoin limited to 500 pieces

These 4 wallets were loaded with the amounts above.

They also released 1500 pieces of the generic wallets which where NOT loaded. And the wallet up for auction is one of these.

Obviously I will be send the polymer paper wallet to "minerjones" and he can then confirm to the winner of the auction that the wallet is still in original plastic sleeve and that everything is as stated by me.


Seeing that I don't now if the BTC price will go up or down in the next 10 days, I set myself a reserve in swiss francs which I would like to have for me to part with this wallet.

Any more questions? Feel free to ask.

Ah! I see, I was not aware of this haha. Thanks for the explanation.

Regarding the auction.. I don't really like hidden reserves and since you want a specific amount in FIAT I don't know if I'm bidding in BTC or in Swiss francs? This has me confused so I'll not bid but I think whoever picks it up will have a great item they can add to their collection.

Best of luck!
sr. member
Activity: 364
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Address on the note is: 1DeUyhUaEsUwsny3skZd4KsAwZ43XMK3Aa

This item looks to be unloaded, the line in the OP that may be confusing regarding funding is:

Quote
Bitcoin Suisse register the unique fingerprint of each bill – along with the TxId (transaction ID) associated with the loading of the certificate. These data are to be published in an accessible register to ensure that people can trust that certificates obtained from 3rd party are genuine and loaded.

Like stated in my first post of this thread -> the statements are not from me. These were the original words of Bitcoin Suisse.

Just to clarify again: This is the generic polymer Bitcoin Suisse AG wallet limited to 1500 which is NOT loaded and never was loaded.
hero member
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Great piece, love the Bitcoin Suisse certificates Smiley.

A few questions..

1) This is never taken out of it's plastic sleeve which means we can assume it is still loaded?
2) "I reserve the right to cancel the auction if the minimum bid is not met" - Do you mean the starting bid or do you have a reserve and won't let it go if it does not get up to that?

Thanks.

In 2014 Bitcoin Suisse AG released 5 Wallets:

100 Milli Bitcoin limited to 4000 pieces

500 Milli Bitcoin limited to 1999 pieces

1 Bitcoin limited to 2000 pieces

10 Bitcoin limited to 500 pieces

These 4 wallets were loaded with the amounts above.

They also released 1500 pieces of the generic wallets which where NOT loaded. And the wallet up for auction is one of these.

Obviously I will be send the polymer paper wallet to "minerjones" and he can then confirm to the winner of the auction that the wallet is still in original plastic sleeve and that everything is as stated by me.


Seeing that I don't now if the BTC price will go up or down in the next 10 days, I set myself a reserve in swiss francs which I would like to have for me to part with this wallet.

Any more questions? Feel free to ask.

Don't you think that hidden reserve auctions are a waste of time and space?


Also an auction with a hidden reserve with no prove is not fair
sr. member
Activity: 364
Merit: 250
Great piece, love the Bitcoin Suisse certificates Smiley.

A few questions..

1) This is never taken out of it's plastic sleeve which means we can assume it is still loaded?
2) "I reserve the right to cancel the auction if the minimum bid is not met" - Do you mean the starting bid or do you have a reserve and won't let it go if it does not get up to that?

Thanks.

In 2014 Bitcoin Suisse AG released 5 Wallets:

100 Milli Bitcoin limited to 4000 pieces

500 Milli Bitcoin limited to 1999 pieces

1 Bitcoin limited to 2000 pieces

10 Bitcoin limited to 500 pieces

These 4 wallets were loaded with the amounts above.

They also released 1500 pieces of the generic wallets which where NOT loaded. And the wallet up for auction is one of these.

Obviously I will be send the polymer paper wallet to "minerjones" and he can then confirm to the winner of the auction that the wallet is still in original plastic sleeve and that everything is as stated by me.


Seeing that I don't now if the BTC price will go up or down in the next 10 days, I set myself a reserve in swiss francs which I would like to have for me to part with this wallet.

Any more questions? Feel free to ask.
legendary
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Meh.
I just scanned the bar code and it is not loaded. Balance zero.


Where does it say that its loaded? Those where sold unloaded.

I was asking if it was loaded or not as it does not state it in the OP. It does however say that it has never been out of it's plastic sleeve so one could assume that it would be loaded, then again I don't know enough about these notes I guess.

I didn't even see your post, I was speaking too BNM, but why would you need to take it out of the sleeve to load it? Its never been out of the plastic sleeve I don't think that has any bearing on whether it is loaded or not

I did not know these were being sold Unloaded, thought they only sold them loaded..
legendary
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Address on the note is: 1DeUyhUaEsUwsny3skZd4KsAwZ43XMK3Aa

This item looks to be unloaded, the line in the OP that may be confusing regarding funding is:

Quote
Bitcoin Suisse register the unique fingerprint of each bill – along with the TxId (transaction ID) associated with the loading of the certificate. These data are to be published in an accessible register to ensure that people can trust that certificates obtained from 3rd party are genuine and loaded.
hero member
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I just scanned the bar code and it is not loaded. Balance zero.


Where does it say that its loaded? Those where sold unloaded.

I was asking if it was loaded or not as it does not state it in the OP. It does however say that it has never been out of it's plastic sleeve so one could assume that it would be loaded, then again I don't know enough about these notes I guess.

I didn't even see your post, I was speaking too BNM, but why would you need to take it out of the sleeve to load it? Its never been out of the plastic sleeve I don't think that has any bearing on whether it is loaded or not
legendary
Activity: 3038
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Meh.
I just scanned the bar code and it is not loaded. Balance zero.


Where does it say that its loaded? Those where sold unloaded.

I was asking if it was loaded or not as it does not state it in the OP. It does however say that it has never been out of it's plastic sleeve so one could assume that it would be loaded, then again I don't know enough about these notes I guess.
hero member
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I just scanned the bar code and it is not loaded. Balance zero.


Where does it say that its loaded? Those where sold unloaded.
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