[Auction] MoneyPot.com is for sale! - page 3.

dooglus

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Quote from: BayAreaCoins on October 10, 2014, 02:58:17 AM

I knew this was going to be a issue when I was posting on the forums about it days ago :-/ Good call on the signature pull.

Someone was saying they thought you lost 1000 coins. I was thinking surely not, but you never know in this crazy fucking Bitcoin world.

Doog if I end up scraping up this site for cheap I'll of course tip you for your time. Thanks you for providing escrow bud.

I like to keep an open mind about people until they show they can't be trusted, but I didn't want to be actively promoting a site which used to prove their solvency and then actively chose to stop doing so "because coinbase".

I was invested for maybe 50 BTC at once point, but pulled out after a bad losing streak. If they had implemented "invest only" accounts I probably would have redeposited. (There's a tip for the next scam you guys pull...)

Eric told me once that he was being extorted by some guy who wanted to buy moneypot from him for $10k, so I guess there will be a bid for at least that much... maybe you'll have some competition.

As for what the site's worth, it's hard to say. The source is all open. Anyone can clone the site right now using the source available on github. So what you're bidding for is pretty much the domain name, the existing customer base, and Eric's support/training/whatever. The site is around 70 BTC in profit, and from what I remember just a few weeks ago it was barely breakeven. A site making 30 BTC per week has to be worth a pretty penny...

Dabs

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Oh, what the hell.

1.01 BTC. This is my last bid.

BayAreaCoins

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Quote from: dooglus on October 10, 2014, 02:53:42 AM

And removed them from my signature when they stopped their proof of solvency. Any site that isn't willing to prove solvency is somewhat suspicious, especially if they're holding investor coins.

I knew this was going to be a issue when I was posting on the forums about it days ago :-/ Good call on the signature pull.

Someone was saying they thought you lost 1000 coins. I was thinking surely not, but you never know in this crazy fucking Bitcoin world.

Doog if I end up scraping up this site for cheap I'll of course tip you for your time. Thanks you for providing escrow bud.

dooglus

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Couple of typos:

Quote from: espringe on October 09, 2014, 06:15:06 PM

has attracted high-offers from companies baring the same name

"bearing"

Quote from: espringe on October 09, 2014, 06:15:06 PM

* 1 month of my time to help a smooth transitions

"transistion" (singular)

dooglus

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Quote from: BayAreaCoins on October 10, 2014, 02:42:57 AM

Tits.

Thanks doog and sorry if you lost any coinage today.

Way she goes Sad

It's weird. I recently deposited 1 BTC to moneypot to have a bit of a gamble. I made a bunch of bets and eventually got it to 1.5 BTC then withdrew it. I withdrew by copy/pasting my most recent withdrawal address, which as it turned out happened to have been to my dice.ninja deposit address. I had forgotten that I withdrew directly from one site to the other, and had kind of "given up" dice, but now I had 1.5 BTC in a dice site, minus the transaction fee made it 1.4999 or something ugly.

So I played a few rolls, got up to 1.511111 or similar, and withdrew.

Then I checked that the withdrawal had hit my wallet, logged off and went about my day.

When I came back online hours later, moneypot is up for sale, dice.ninja is offline, and the world is once again changed (for the worse). Sad

Other than my accidental deposit and play today, I've not used dice.ninja since I lost a bunch there to a silly martingale sequence. And removed them from my signature when they stopped their proof of solvency. Any site that isn't willing to prove solvency is somewhat suspicious, especially if they're holding investor coins.

BayAreaCoins

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Quote from: dooglus on October 10, 2014, 02:38:18 AM

I can sign a message with the address:

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> signmessage 14vaf3D63XpfqEbM3LM8pMNB7mNoX4Xrd7 "this is the address I gave satoshicarnival for their auction but nobody used it so I gave it to Eric for his moneypot auction, love dooglus"
H+qInJTN+fqJBoM+yzSTV0ZPZxob1X1c/9TjCT8cT4UCdw9SOeytdwKymQseCHLwdsxJfHH+FqZQLBkRGqKdhpw=

but I figure that just posting that it's my address is enough.

It's my address.

Tits.

Thanks doog and sorry if you lost any coinage today.

Way she goes Sad

I've bid 1BTC on this after Eric said in the troll box that I could. If this is the highest bid at the end of the auction Eric doesn't have to sell it to me since I'm under his reserve. I just wanted to set a base for this auction cause this is a cool site. Eric has also agreed I can pay him USD via troll box, but I'll bid in terms of Bitcoin.

dooglus

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Quote from: BayAreaCoins on October 09, 2014, 08:06:37 PM

Do not deposit any bitcoins to them until Dooglus signs a message to show it is his.

This owner worked with Dice.Ninja a fair bit and it appears the could be possibly running.

I can sign a message with the address:

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> signmessage 14vaf3D63XpfqEbM3LM8pMNB7mNoX4Xrd7 "this is the address I gave satoshicarnival for their auction but nobody used it so I gave it to Eric for his moneypot auction, love dooglus"
H+qInJTN+fqJBoM+yzSTV0ZPZxob1X1c/9TjCT8cT4UCdw9SOeytdwKymQseCHLwdsxJfHH+FqZQLBkRGqKdhpw=

but I figure that just posting that it's my address is enough.

It's my address.

snarlpill

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Just out of curiosity, why are you deciding to sell it?

I played the day it came out, and though it was not really my cup of BTC-gambling tea, it is definitely a unique gambling site in a sea of clones. I've never got any bad vibes from espringe personally, and have seen him handle problems with the site well and paid out all withdraws. However, I'm not going to mention the fact that dooglus trusts him, simply because he was wrong about DiceBitco.in (not just him though- many people were wrong). I would say espringe could most likely be trusted holding the investor funds, although 6 months is a long time. All sorts of accidents and such can happen in a time frame like that.

Also- I would have to agree with whoever said- "Return the players' money and let them decide if they want to trust the new owner or not." This seems to be the safest way of doing it. Has anyone asked any of the users with BTC deposited if they would be cool with someone else holding their BTC for 6 months?
In my opinion it sounds like espringe is trying to help the new owners stay relevant in the competitive world of BTC gambling.

Dabs

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0.99 BTC

BayAreaCoins

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1btc

(approved by E___ in MoneyPot troll box)

espringe

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Quote from: AcoinL.L.C on October 09, 2014, 11:44:04 PM

How many deposits are on the site? Your asking a lot for a bidder to spot the site balance. Users should have their balances returned, and they can decide if they want to redeposit under the new management or not. For all we know there could be 500BTC on the site, meaning a bidder would need to have 520BTC+ tied up for 6 months... Assuming you don't run off with the balance in the meantime.

"a) I did not work with dmf "a fair bit". He invested 25 BTC in the site, I paid him back (a 7 BTC profit). End of story.", you also have a link on your homepage saying "Or if real-time isn't for you give dice.ninja a try", so you are directly supporting their site.

Whats the site profit?

The stats are here: https://www.moneypot.com/stats

There has been a big run on the site (which I paid obviously) and the amount held as balances is now only: 23.53375427 BTC. Compared to the amount of money the site has made and will make it's not a huge amount.

And yeah, I linked to dice.ninja and even recommended it as an investment place (as i had done so myself). I'm still hoping that the whole thing wasn't a scam, and considering the site isn't even operational -- I see no harm in leaving it for a little longer

AcoinL.L.C

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How many deposits are on the site? Your asking a lot for a bidder to spot the site balance. Users should have their balances returned, and they can decide if they want to redeposit under the new management or not. For all we know there could be 500BTC on the site, meaning a bidder would need to have 520BTC+ tied up for 6 months... Assuming you don't run off with the balance in the meantime.

"a) I did not work with dmf "a fair bit". He invested 25 BTC in the site, I paid him back (a 7 BTC profit). End of story.", you also have a link on your homepage saying "Or if real-time isn't for you give dice.ninja a try", so you are directly supporting their site.

Whats the site profit?

izanagi narukami

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Why do you sell it ?

lossing ?
Don't have a time to manage it ?

espringe

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Oh god. The timing of this isn't ideal. Let me clear things up:

a) I did not work with dmf "a fair bit". He invested 25 BTC in the site, I paid him back (a 7 BTC profit). End of story.

b) Dooglus just gave me an address controlled by him. It was an address that was previously supposed to be used for an escrow, but as you can tell, no money went through that address. It's an address that's never been used.

"To say that you will control the money owed to players is just crazy"

I just mean, that the current amount owed to players (25 BTC) will not be part of the sale. I'll just hold that as insurance for people who played on my trust. If something goes wrong with the new operator, I'll use that 25 BTC to pay the current accounts.

Also Candy is not a manager, nor works in any official capacity. He suggested I run a sig campaign, I told him I didn't have enough time, he offered to run it for me.

Anything else? Tongue

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Quote from: Candystripes on October 09, 2014, 09:51:48 PM

Nice try wannabe Vod's xD, this isn't a scam. That is doog's address, and just because there have been scams lately, that doesn't prove shit. Show proof or don't post at all. False accusations are never nice to have in a section where you can't delete or edit posts.

You are not exactly reputable yourself. You received .2164 from someone that accidentally overpaid you on a trade then over a week later you were called out and it turns out that you had the money to repay the entire time.

See this thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=768276.0;all

I would say that anyone using candystripes as a manager is not trustworthy. I also call scam.

If you want to be trustworthy then you can either force users to withdraw their balance prior to the transfer of ownership and they can deposit funds back if they choose or to have a reputable escrow hold the coins with a much more detailed agreement as "6 months of no foul play" is very vague as many/most sites go through some kind of controversy.

Edser

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What is a Vod and who is Doog(las)

no update was made to the other auction, just people saying it vanished.

Candystripes

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***THIS ACCOUNT IS NO LONGER ACTIVE***

Nice try wannabe Vod's xD, this isn't a scam. That is doog's address, and just because there have been scams lately, that doesn't prove shit. Show proof or don't post at all. False accusations are never nice to have in a section where you can't delete or edit posts.

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It seems to be confirmed here:

Quote from: dooglus on September 07, 2014, 11:10:06 PM

Quote from: 2017orso on September 07, 2014, 10:01:42 PM

Dooglus has been kind enough to act as escrow for this auction.

To place a bid please do the following:

Send the bid amount to the following address controlled by Dooglus(he will be acting as escrow) - 14vaf3D63XpfqEbM3LM8pMNB7mNoX4Xrd7
The sending address you choose should be one you control and not one associated with an exchange, gambling site or other third party
Sign a message with the address you sent the bid from confirming your ownership of the address - can simply sign with your bitcointalk forum name
Post that signed message here along with your bid amount

He forgot to say that you can increase your bid by sending the increase to the same address, from the same registered address.

And, I guess, that I'll return all the coins which didn't win the auction to their registered sending address at the end of the auction.

But I'm just acting as escrow, so don't take my word for it.

That this is really Dooglus' address Wink

Edser

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14vaf3D63XpfqEbM3LM8pMNB7mNoX4Xrd7

The address for the 'escrow' is also listed on a scam that just went poof.
Why would anyone bid by sending BTC, that's not an escrow at all.

List this on a true auction site like cryptothrift with escrow included.

Lots of red flags.

BayAreaCoins

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Quote from: BIGbangTheory on October 09, 2014, 09:04:51 PM

I call scam.

I do too.

I think they are making their way to the door cause Dice.Ninja did.

DMF was involved with this site too from what I read in the troll boxes.

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