Australian Open 2021 Discussion thread - page 3.

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Quote from: Cnut237 on February 15, 2021, 03:36:54 AM

Quote from: Jating on February 13, 2021, 04:07:39 AM

Djokovic admitted that he injured himself

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His career is littered with evidence of his fake injury claims. We don't have to look any further than this same tournament last year and his miraculous 'injury' recoveries in the semi-final and final. Absurd.

I'm not aware that Djokovic is claiming fake injuries in his career. However, we all know that in the last years or so, he has a lot of these controversial statement in his personal life so I wouldn't be surprised if this is true.

And not that he won against Raonic and people saying that he is somewhat very though mentally, it's beginning to unravel the extend of his claims about his past injury. And yes, this is really absurd not telling the truth and lying to his fans.

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^^ I agree here. I don't know but I have suspected that Djokovic could have been faking his injury not just in this year's AO but throughout his career them. Perhaps he wanted to give his opponent a feeling that they can bet him and that he was at a handicap or something.

But little did they know that Djokovic is playing mind games with them and this has been working on his side all the time. Not good to fake injuries just to have an advantage.

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Quote from: Jating on February 13, 2021, 04:07:39 AM

Djokovic admitted that he injured himself

Quote from: Daniel91 on February 13, 2021, 06:28:55 AM

Djokovic also struggled and due to injury

I don't think he's injured. It seems like every tournament there's a time when he suffers an 'injury' that's so bad he's on the verge of quitting the whole tournament, but then he generally recovers... often within the same match, and often within a few minutes, with absolutely no ill effects at all. The play acting is ridiculous because it happens so often. He has no need to do this. His skill and talent mean that he is one of the best in the world, there is absolutely no need for him to fake injuries to try to create some sort of psychological advantage over his opponents. I really hope he gets knocked out soon, because it's basically play-acting and it casts tennis in a bad light. And the thing is, one day he will actually be injured, and no-one will believe him. It's classic boy-who-cried-wolf.

His career is littered with evidence of his fake injury claims. We don't have to look any further than this same tournament last year and his miraculous 'injury' recoveries in the semi-final and final. Absurd.

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Quote from: aoluain on February 14, 2021, 12:01:33 PM

Thiem was definitely a favourite to go all the way. He certainly had a tough match against Kyrgios

My favourite Ladies player is Osaka, She struggled against Muguruza. It was always going to be a
close match, very close in the end. There seemed to be a lot of unforced errors by both.

You know Thiem looked exhausted in the match against Dimitrov because he played 5 tiring sets in front of the ever so disrespecting crowd who were shouting and booing for a guy as good as Thiem.

He looked so tired that imagine he lost a set 6-0 to Dimitrov and we know Dimitrov is an excellent server but he has never been a good returner and Them has a solid serve but he lost 6-0 which shows how tiring and mentally fatigued he was today. Djokovic looked in trouble against Raonic after 2nd set but managed to see off the big guy quite easily in the end.

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Quote from: Daniel91 on February 14, 2021, 05:42:44 AM

Very interesting results today in Australia.
For me personally the biggest surprise is Thiem’s easy defeat against Dimitrov.
Before the tournament, I thought Thiem could even go all the way and win the tournament.
Osaka and Serena Williams struggled but still won and went on to the tournament and remain the main favorites in the women's competition.

Indeed! He won the US open and if someone asked me who is going to win apart from Dkjoovic I would have said Medvedev or Domininc Thiem but now that is out of the tournament I am not so sure whom to pick as the winner. In the ladies game I really like the chances of Halep because lets be honest Iga was playing so good but Halep's defending against Iga was just something I haven't seen recently in the women's game at all.

Maybe a big server can dismantle Halep but with Pliskova out of the game I don't see any real threat for Halep unless she has a bad day and just tanks couple of service games and doesn't press forward for the returns.

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Thiem was definitely a favourite to go all the way. He certainly had a tough match against Kyrgios

My favourite Ladies player is Osaka, She struggled against Muguruza. It was always going to be a
close match, very close in the end. There seemed to be a lot of unforced errors by both.

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Very interesting results today in Australia.
For me personally the biggest surprise is Thiem’s easy defeat against Dimitrov.
Before the tournament, I thought Thiem could even go all the way and win the tournament.
Osaka and Serena Williams struggled but still won and went on to the tournament and remain the main favorites in the women's competition.

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Due to Covid the tennis players did not have normal training conditions and it is obvious that many favorites are not in optimal shape.
Dominic Thiem struggled against Nick Kyrgios to reverse the nearly lost match, Djokovic also struggled and due to injury it is possible that he will not be able to continue the competition (see https://www.bbc.com/sport/tennis/56042096) and Medvedev, another favorite, struggled today against Krajinovic to win in 5 sets.
Based on the matches so far, I think it can be concluded that there are no clear favorites and that everyone has a chance to win this GS.
Even without this injury, Djokovic seems too nervous and too focused on things that have nothing to do with tennis.
Looking at today's results, I am a little surprised that Pliskova lost to Muchova in the women's competition.

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Quote from: bct_ail on February 12, 2021, 10:08:24 AM

What a game between Djokovic and Fritz.
The audience were beeing told to leave the stadium due to the new impending Melbourne lockdown.
7-6, 6-4, 3-6, 4-6, 6-2 in 3 hours and 25 minutes for Djokovic.

Yes, it was a thriller, however, Djokovic admitted that he injured himself and he is lucky to have won that marathon match. But as he is now injured, he will be facing big serving Raonic on the next round, and with his body not 100%, we don't know if he can win or not. Haven't check the odds though, but if the odds are attractive for Raonic, maybe I will put some on him.

@vennali - probably Diego Schwartzman really was not really up against Karatsev and couldn't get things go his way. Auger Aliassime also won against compatriot Shapovalov and will be facing Karatsev next.

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Quote from: bct_ail on February 09, 2021, 06:46:12 PM

Quote from: vennali on February 09, 2021, 11:09:46 AM

The quarantine does effect the players fitness but I dont think it was a fitness issue. Pera was just better than Kerber. 6:0 tells you a story.

I think so too. It was a head thing.

For sure it affects the players status and not only that as a normal professional athlete need practice almost every day so as far as I know they're not allow to leave the hotel room or simply go for a walk near it. If I was one of the players, I would've declined the invite as this is not a normal tourney to make and also not a normal tourney to let people bet on it ...a lot of surprises are happening and I think the winner will be a surprise too.

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What a game between Djokovic and Fritz.
The audience were beeing told to leave the stadium due to the new impending Melbourne lockdown.
7-6, 6-4, 3-6, 4-6, 6-2 in 3 hours and 25 minutes for Djokovic.

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Quote from: Jating on February 12, 2021, 05:56:19 AM

What happened to D. Schwartzman though? surprised to see him lost to Karatsev in 3 straight sets.

He has a good run ending the 2020 season, and it seems he has a bad start in AO.

Auger Aliassime vs Shapovalov currently is a good match to watch, Auger Aliassime leading the second set at 6-5 but Shapovalov is serving, might end in a time break for the second set.

Something wrong with Shapo today. Doesn't look like himself. He led 1st set and the 2nd set only to be broken back twice to lose the set. broken in the 3rd early as well. Way too many unforced errors. First serve win% of just 57 for Shapo while serving close to 50% of them in. He did go into the locker room and request for a doctor after first set. So, something might be wrong with him.

I couldnt watch Schwartzman's match but it is very odd to watch him lose in straight sets against Karatsev.

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What happened to D. Schwartzman though? surprised to see him lost to Karatsev in 3 straight sets.

He has a good run ending the 2020 season, and it seems he has a bad start in AO.

Auger Aliassime vs Shapovalov currently is a good match to watch, Auger Aliassime leading the second set at 6-5 but Shapovalov is serving, might end in a time break for the second set.

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Quote from: vennali on February 12, 2021, 04:54:31 AM

Interesting match between the 2 Canadian young talents that are looking for a place in the next round. Shapovalov vs Auger-Aliassime. Shapo is fav as per the bookmakers but I think this has what it takes to go to 5 sets.
Edit: Halep takes the 1st set with ease 6-1. A lot more challenging in the 2nd set as Kudermetova seems a lot more positive and was up a break at a point.

Those two are still playing, with Auger Aliassime taking the first set, been following Auger Aliassime though I think he has a bright future. Second set is close at 5-5, it has the making of another 5 setter here, so I wouldn't be surprised. But I still go with Auger Aliassime here and hope he can advance to the next round against his fellow Canadians.

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Interesting match between the 2 Canadian young talents that are looking for a place in the next round. Shapovalov vs Auger-Aliassime. Shapo is fav as per the bookmakers but I think this has what it takes to go to 5 sets.
Edit: Halep takes the 1st set with ease 6-1. A lot more challenging in the 2nd set as Kudermetova seems a lot more positive and was up a break at a point.

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Quote from: TravelMug on February 10, 2021, 09:48:59 PM

Quote from: aoluain on February 10, 2021, 09:39:49 AM

Hmm I wouldnt actually put her in the favourites group, I am looking at Barty and Osaka as the
top two followed closely by Halep, Muguruza and reigning champion Kennin.

But still we can't discount the fact that maybe Serena can pull off against this young generation of tennis players. So let's see how it goes or how far can she go in this tournament.

Pera lost against Diyas and she will be facing Muguruza next. Definitely a good match to watch and see if Diyas can continue his run in AO. Serena will go against Potapova, and I think Serena will win in three sets.

Serena can still do it for sure. I think the current gen of players aren't as determined(few exceptions) as the old gen. Just hope her fitness can hold strong for the upcoming matches. Halep showed determination in her previous match against Ajla Tomljanovic where she was down a break in the final set and facing serves for the match and was able to turn it around.

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Quote from: aoluain on February 10, 2021, 09:39:49 AM

Hmm I wouldnt actually put her in the favourites group, I am looking at Barty and Osaka as the
top two followed closely by Halep, Muguruza and reigning champion Kennin.

But still we can't discount the fact that maybe Serena can pull off against this young generation of tennis players. So let's see how it goes or how far can she go in this tournament.

Pera lost against Diyas and she will be facing Muguruza next. Definitely a good match to watch and see if Diyas can continue his run in AO. Serena will go against Potapova, and I think Serena will win in three sets.

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Hmm I wouldnt actually put her in the favourites group, I am looking at Barty and Osaka as the
top two followed closely by Halep, Muguruza and reigning champion Kennin.

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Quote from: TravelMug on February 09, 2021, 08:53:43 PM

We also have Serena match in about one hour.

Serena cruised through without any trouble. She is as we'd expect amongst the favourites to win the tournament, but her recent gland slam performance is patchy - and particularly so in Australia. She's actually only made the final there 3 times in the last 10 years. If we add to this the fact that she's lost her last 4 GS finals, prior to which she was W23 L6, then it doesn't seem that likely that she'll win the whole tournament. Of course it's Serena and you can't ever rule her out, but still... results overall and particularly in Australia do suggest she might struggle.

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^^ Diyas was great, although Pera climb back and tie the game.

Sorry for Pera though, she just throw her upset of Kerber in the first round. She should have perform better against Diyas as this is winnable for her.

The now entertaining Nick Kyrgios is now playing against Humbert. Another upset as well as Hsieh trounces #8 Andreescu, in straight sets.

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