"Avalon" ASIC, announcement & pre-order. pre-order over. project started.

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Quote from: anti76 on January 22, 2013, 02:29:20 AM

Sending scanned documents payment order number 200000846.
Tell me when it will be shipped?
You can specify the amount of sending $ 720

why the order status has not changed?

This is a very old thread. You need to ask your questions in the latest Avalon thread.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/announcement-avalon-asic-batch-1-ships-137534

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Sending scanned documents payment order number 200000846.
Tell me when it will be shipped?
You can specify the amount of sending $ 720

why the order status has not changed?

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Quote from: crazyearner on January 21, 2013, 11:12:41 PM

Quote from: CoinHoarder on January 21, 2013, 10:59:22 PM

From Avalon's website: "note: It is still possible for our unit's speed to increase. in addition to a secret that will only be revealed when the units are in customers hands."

I'm excited to see what the specs are when the units start arriving. Speculation: I have a feeling they'll be better then their anticipated 66 Gh at 400w estimate. Grin

EDIT: Wow this thread is ancient. WHY YOU BUMP!@

400w thorught it was expected to be 100w and 60gh/s per unit or am I mistaken ?

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/asic-power-consumption-estimates-114363

According to this thread ^^^, it will be anywhere from 2-6 watts/Gh.

So.. in between 120w and 360w by my math running at 60Gh.

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Quote from: CoinHoarder on January 21, 2013, 10:59:22 PM

From Avalon's website: "note: It is still possible for our unit's speed to increase. in addition to a secret that will only be revealed when the units are in customers hands."

I'm excited to see what the specs are when the units start arriving. Speculation: I have a feeling they'll be better then their anticipated 66 Gh at 400w estimate. Grin

EDIT: Wow this thread is ancient. WHY YOU BUMP!@

400w thorught it was expected to be 100w and 60gh/s per unit or am I mistaken ?

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From Avalon's website: "note: It is still possible for our unit's speed to increase. in addition to a secret that will only be revealed when the units are in customers hands."

I'm excited to see what the specs are when the units start arriving. Speculation: I have a feeling they'll be better then their anticipated 66 Gh at 400w estimate. Grin

EDIT: Wow this thread is ancient. WHY YOU BUMP!@

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Quote from: PuertoLibre on October 22, 2012, 05:18:18 AM

I believe Intel and AMD pay somewhere around 90,000

I don't think Intel pays anyone to make the chips

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Quote from: gineta on November 20, 2012, 02:12:23 PM

Hi I just visit the web and I click in BUY NOW

There are no products matching the selection.

The first batch sold out very quickly awhile back, but as people doesn't pay up on time, the website is restocked. also in the future please use this thread instead

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/announcement-avalon-asic-development-status-batch-1-120184

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Hi I just visit the web and I click in BUY NOW

There are no products matching the selection.

Is not possible make orders or you stop the product

Quote from: BitSyncom on November 04, 2012, 04:56:34 PM

Quote from: Raize on November 04, 2012, 04:53:36 PM

Quote from: ngzhang on October 08, 2012, 12:34:21 PM

Quote from: Raize on October 08, 2012, 08:14:08 AM

ngzhang,
I'm unclear on what I'm supposed to do if I own Icarus now and plan on converting/upgrading/redeeming them for new Icarus in the future? Just sit and wait? I did not get in on the preorder and I won't be able to come up with the extra cash till January at the earliest. Do we have to register our present Icarus with you or should we not worry about it at this time?

we will draft a trade-in detail later. i think no need to worry about it now.

There are two reasons why someone may want to know soon:
1) Some individuals may want to "reserve" their Avalon ahead of someone ordering in December to avoid having their order filled later rather than sooner.

2) Some individuals may want to wait to do a trade-in in March or April, will the trade-ins be allowed still in March or April, even if you have decreased prices? What about if the price of an Avalon is $500 in one year, can we still trade in Icarus for a credit?

Trade in will happen much much earlier than that, it seems you have missed our new thread.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/announcement-avalon-asic-development-status-batch-1-120184

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Quote from: Raize on November 04, 2012, 04:53:36 PM

Quote from: ngzhang on October 08, 2012, 12:34:21 PM

Quote from: Raize on October 08, 2012, 08:14:08 AM

ngzhang,
I'm unclear on what I'm supposed to do if I own Icarus now and plan on converting/upgrading/redeeming them for new Icarus in the future? Just sit and wait? I did not get in on the preorder and I won't be able to come up with the extra cash till January at the earliest. Do we have to register our present Icarus with you or should we not worry about it at this time?

we will draft a trade-in detail later. i think no need to worry about it now.

There are two reasons why someone may want to know soon:
1) Some individuals may want to "reserve" their Avalon ahead of someone ordering in December to avoid having their order filled later rather than sooner.

2) Some individuals may want to wait to do a trade-in in March or April, will the trade-ins be allowed still in March or April, even if you have decreased prices? What about if the price of an Avalon is $500 in one year, can we still trade in Icarus for a credit?

Trade in will happen much much earlier than that, it seems you have missed our new thread.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/announcement-avalon-asic-development-status-batch-1-120184

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Quote from: ngzhang on October 08, 2012, 12:34:21 PM

Quote from: Raize on October 08, 2012, 08:14:08 AM

ngzhang,
I'm unclear on what I'm supposed to do if I own Icarus now and plan on converting/upgrading/redeeming them for new Icarus in the future? Just sit and wait? I did not get in on the preorder and I won't be able to come up with the extra cash till January at the earliest. Do we have to register our present Icarus with you or should we not worry about it at this time?

we will draft a trade-in detail later. i think no need to worry about it now.

There are two reasons why someone may want to know soon:
1) Some individuals may want to "reserve" their Avalon ahead of someone ordering in December to avoid having their order filled later rather than sooner.

2) Some individuals may want to wait to do a trade-in in March or April, will the trade-ins be allowed still in March or April, even if you have decreased prices? What about if the price of an Avalon is $500 in one year, can we still trade in Icarus for a credit?

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Quote from: AniceInovation on October 31, 2012, 06:10:35 AM

Do these ship from china?

Yes

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Interesting.

Do these ship from china?

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Sodium hypochlorite, acetone, ethanol

he is Yifu G.

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Quote from: BitSyncom on October 22, 2012, 10:56:31 AM

Quote from: Frequency on October 22, 2012, 10:23:38 AM

8 oct 2012 ... did i miss it Huh

You did not. It will not be long. The site ran into some small integration problems that is currently being worked on. If anything though, the new thread will be up before Wednesday 10/24/2012 ends.

Ok thx for the info, but who are you?? Shocked

a new Avalon team member Huh

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Quote from: Frequency on October 22, 2012, 10:23:38 AM

8 oct 2012 ... did i miss it Huh

You did not. It will not be long. The site ran into some small integration problems that is currently being worked on. If anything though, the new thread will be up before Wednesday 10/24/2012 ends.

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Quote from: ngzhang on October 08, 2012, 07:37:20 AM

time is up. Cheesy

will release a new site and start a new thread soon.

8 oct 2012 ... did i miss it Huh

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Quote from: squid on October 22, 2012, 08:33:46 AM

110 / 130 nm gate size can hardly be considered "technology of 2005" since many many companies still use that size today. It all comes down to the complexity of the device you are making and the cost to fabricate it.

Question: Does process node == gate size? I took some VLSI courses as an undergrad (a long time back) and from my understanding they are not the same thing.

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And in very few non-mobile devices do people actually care about power consumption, let alone how it affects profitability. The sum of those considerations is probably unique to bitcoin mining. In most normal cases, it would be majorly wasteful and pointless to use "new" fab processes in an ASIC.

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110 / 130 nm gate size can hardly be considered "technology of 2005" since many many companies still use that size today. It all comes down to the complexity of the device you are making and the cost to fabricate it.

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Quote from: Tinua on October 22, 2012, 04:51:20 AM

Does this mean, Avalon uses chip technology of 2005?

Pretty much...more or less. 110nm process node was introduced in or around 2003.

Keep in mind bASIC is using 90nm and that was roughly introduced in 2006.

The older tech is obviously more accessible to a small company. The 28nm tech is impossibly expensive and not nearly as mature as the older (already well refined) methods. They (all the competing companies) are putting together ASICs which are relatively simple chips...so the newer tech is overkill and fraught with lots of different kinds of problems (most of the time).

I believe Intel and AMD pay somewhere around 90,000 per silicon wafer at the newest process nodes. Possibly more. Though they make tons of chips in a much smaller space so it evens out...more or less. It's one of the reasons why CPU's cost what they do.

See for more info:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semiconductor_device_fabrication

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