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Topic: Avalon batch 3 ROI - page 2. (Read 4068 times)

legendary
Activity: 1820
Merit: 1001
August 01, 2013, 01:34:57 PM
#21
4 modules.
@350 it crashes in under 1 hour (hard, so I have to power cycle)
@325 it crashes in a few hours (soft until now, so I can restart it from interface)
@300 I'm not sure yet, it crashed once after 4-5 hours.
It is installed in temperature controlled room, 21 Celsius.
Temperatures are 5 degrees under what is it default for batch3 (Temp2 is 65).


@350 impossible due to having 2 fans on system and temp 2 at 65. This was a bad move by Avalon to take the 3rd fan out and redesign the case as its got more air flow going in on Batch 2. Yes it looks smaller and compact however taking 3rd fan out if they have done even with the 4 module version this is very bad.

@325 if crashing after a few hours I would think this is cutting out at a set target temp or something else within the system is overheating. If it is a total cut out then I would advise not using this speed.

@300 4 to 5 hours and still crashing. I would look at air flow control of unit and direct air flow towards heatsynks however seeing on the new layout its almost direct in line with the modulus.

My advise is check to see what PSU it has in it if its anyone branded and no sticker on then I would advise upgrading to at least an 850w to 1000w with that unit.  I would also look at tidying the cables up for a little improvement on air flow.

Other than that you might want to look at making a custom case for it that has better management on it or replace the front panel with  a new one with 3 fans on providing it would fit it.


In terms of making ROI back on Batch 3 it will be possible however it also depends on how much more and bigger units come online. Currently average is 3 to 5 million increase on diff jumps every 2 days that's giving around 0.3BTC to 0.5BTC each difficulty adjustment. If it goes above this and starts swinging 5 to 8 million then RIO will be impossible unless you are taking your funds and also trading with it.

A solution would be for people to jump of BTC enough for the diff to drop back down it did happen 2 weeks ago but didn't drop by much.
legendary
Activity: 1330
Merit: 1026
Mining since 2010 & Hosting since 2012
August 01, 2013, 12:07:58 PM
#20
This ROI issue is the reason I setup a ASIC miner co-location facility.   With the unknown amount of difficulty coming online you, you need that guaranteed 1 year+ of hosting mining to make sure you get all you can from your miners.   We go live today.   First batch of hardware will be firing up very soon.

-D
full member
Activity: 206
Merit: 100
August 01, 2013, 11:05:19 AM
#19
For Batch 3 owners it will be very much a case of minimising the losses rather than maximising the gain.
Yes, it looks like it SadSadSad
member
Activity: 91
Merit: 10
August 01, 2013, 11:01:28 AM
#18
For Batch 3 owners it will be very much a case of minimising the losses rather than maximising the gain.
full member
Activity: 206
Merit: 100
August 01, 2013, 10:08:55 AM
#17
If it is 3 module machine, running at 350Mhz will give you at least 1.2 BTC/day. Depends on how stable it is.

Well.. for the next 2 days... then 1BTC for the next 12 days...  etc. ...
Cry
Yeah Sad
full member
Activity: 206
Merit: 100
August 01, 2013, 10:08:34 AM
#16
You have it already? That thing will ROI end of October if you plug it in now.  What calculator are you using?
I have plugged it yesterday. I have used no calculator. I've made estimate based on 1.3 BTC/day now and 0.8 earnings of precedent after each retarget.
What's the frequency you are running at?
If it is 3 module machine, running at 350Mhz will give you at least 1.2 BTC/day. Depends on how stable it is.
It's 4 modules batch#3, but I cannot runt it stable neither @350, neither @325, and I'm not sure @300 (it crashed once).
full member
Activity: 206
Merit: 100
August 01, 2013, 10:06:49 AM
#15
4 modules.
@350 it crashes in under 1 hour (hard, so I have to power cycle)
@325 it crashes in a few hours (soft until now, so I can restart it from interface)
@300 I'm not sure yet, it crashed once after 4-5 hours.
It is installed in temperature controlled room, 21 Celsius.
Temperatures are 5 degrees under what is it default for batch3 (Temp2 is 65).
sr. member
Activity: 490
Merit: 255
August 01, 2013, 08:32:20 AM
#14
If it is 3 module machine, running at 350Mhz will give you at least 1.2 BTC/day. Depends on how stable it is.

Well.. for the next 2 days... then 1BTC for the next 12 days...  etc. ...
Cry
legendary
Activity: 1484
Merit: 1026
In Cryptocoins I Trust
August 01, 2013, 08:30:22 AM
#13
I have received my Avalon3, so no way of refunding.
I'm happy that I have an ASIC, so I'll stick with it. I'm only a little disappointed that maybe it will not make the investment, but it's a risk I took when I ordered Smiley
I'll focus on make it work stable at at least 300MHz (now it's not).

You can't get 300mhz stable Huh

Are you having temperature problems?

I've been running at 325mhz and 350mhz pretty stable. Been running at 350mhz for about 11 hours stable on 7 machines.
sr. member
Activity: 448
Merit: 250
August 01, 2013, 08:25:51 AM
#12
You have it already? That thing will ROI end of October if you plug it in now.  What calculator are you using?
I have plugged it yesterday. I have used no calculator. I've made estimate based on 1.3 BTC/day now and 0.8 earnings of precedent after each retarget.
What's the frequency you are running at?
If it is 3 module machine, running at 350Mhz will give you at least 1.2 BTC/day. Depends on how stable it is.
sr. member
Activity: 479
Merit: 250
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full member
Activity: 206
Merit: 100
August 01, 2013, 06:01:27 AM
#10
You have it already? That thing will ROI end of October if you plug it in now.  What calculator are you using?
I have plugged it yesterday. I have used no calculator. I've made estimate based on 1.3 BTC/day now and 0.8 earnings of precedent after each retarget.
sr. member
Activity: 479
Merit: 250
https://streamies.io/
August 01, 2013, 05:36:46 AM
#9
You have it already? That thing will ROI end of October if you plug it in now.  What calculator are you using?
full member
Activity: 206
Merit: 100
August 01, 2013, 04:04:03 AM
#8
I have received my Avalon3, so no way of refunding.
I'm happy that I have an ASIC, so I'll stick with it. I'm only a little disappointed that maybe it will not make the investment, but it's a risk I took when I ordered Smiley
I'll focus on make it work stable at at least 300MHz (now it's not).
legendary
Activity: 1036
Merit: 1001
/dev/null
August 01, 2013, 04:02:27 AM
#7
you are right. what else to tell..

and my opinion? ask for refund and never ever order anything from guys from chinese basement.

Which countries basements are safe to order from?

If you are from Europe, EU based basements are much safer then Chinese.
sr. member
Activity: 448
Merit: 250
August 01, 2013, 03:51:58 AM
#6
No matter refund or waiting for miner, you are losing money everyday.

How you are losing money, if you will get full refund? Because money makes money or ..?
Yes, you are right. If you have money in hand, you can do other investment.
As I know, there is only 1 customer of batch#3 received his money. Others are still waiting. How many days after Avalon opened refund option?
hero member
Activity: 518
Merit: 500
August 01, 2013, 03:47:56 AM
#5
you are right. what else to tell..

and my opinion? ask for refund and never ever order anything from guys from chinese basement.

Which countries basements are safe to order from?
legendary
Activity: 1036
Merit: 1001
/dev/null
August 01, 2013, 03:31:14 AM
#4
No matter refund or waiting for miner, you are losing money everyday.

How you are losing money, if you will get full refund? Because money makes money or ..?
sr. member
Activity: 448
Merit: 250
August 01, 2013, 03:28:35 AM
#3
I've made some math.
If difficulty will continue to rise 20% each retarget from now on, I'll make 85BTC in 6 months. I'll never make the 102BTC I've paid Sad.
What's your opinion?

We don't know future. So there is still tiny possibility that you can get your investment back .
But as I said in other threads, batch#3 customers are in an awkward position.
No matter refund or waiting for miner, you are losing money everyday.
legendary
Activity: 1036
Merit: 1001
/dev/null
August 01, 2013, 03:22:36 AM
#2
you are right. what else to tell..

and my opinion? ask for refund and never ever order anything from guys from chinese basement.
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