Why are you guys even talking about this?
These would be incredibly over priced even if they included all the Avalon chips (which they don't).
I dunno why anyone would buy one, perhaps I'm converting my currencies wrong??
EDIT: On the second look, it looks like only their hardware that comes with ASIC chips is expensive:
The spot avalon 4 # 110G ¥ 68888
August 30 presale avalon 4 # 110G ¥ 42888
September 30 presale avalon 4 # 110G ¥ 28888
Their price without chips is reasonable I guess.
If you're confident with bitcoin value increasing these will make ROI. Otherwise, these won't make ROI. You're better off buying coins then, though, imho.
Spet 30 - 4,719.11 US Dollar
Aug 30 - 7,006.14 US Dollar
On Spot - 11,253.47 US Dollar
For 11,253.47 if the weekly difficulty increase is at least 10% you'll be taking a 4,700 loss. The only way you'll make ROI is if bitcoin value increases.
For 11,253.47 if the weekly difficulty increases by 50 TH/s per week you'll be taking a 1,100 loss. The only way you'll make ROI is if bitcoin value increases.
For 7,006.14 if the weekly difficulty increase is at least 10% you'll be taking a 1,600 loss. The only way you'll make ROI is if bitcoin value increases.
For 7,006.14 if the weekly difficulty increases by 50 TH/s per week you'll make ROI. This is extremely optimistic and *may* happen but probably won't.
For 4,719.11 if the weekly difficulty increase is at least 10% you'll be taking a 1,100 loss. The only way you'll make ROI is if bitcoin value increases.
For 4,719.11 if the weekly difficulty increases by 50 TH/s per week you'll make ROI. This is extremely optimistic and probably won't happen.
Translation: You're better off buying bitcoins than mining hardware. I don't understand why someone would say this is reasonable. I guess if people are accustomed to giving away their money for free then yea - this is reasonable.