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So I think now is a very good time for personal famers. 90%+ of miner company close down and others are struggling to sell their backlog at a big lose, this year.

Avalon switch to build-to-(large)order model few months ago, we have no large backorders now. And we only sell products with margin, even it is really small. For retail, no pre-orders form 1 year ago.

We have confident for the product cost of $/GHs. Now our major work is next gen ASIC design, large scale mining farm design, mining management system development, supply chain management, etc..

In this and next month, we are busying deliver the preorders. Avalon4 moudle will continually have small upgrade in early 2015, 0.3w/GHs on the wall and 0.3$/GHs with margin is a short-term goal.

I know there are a number of instock products on the market with better $/GHs on pricing. This is their blood, no more bloodsucking form us.  Sorry.

Why do I need to quote you Dogie?



I was quoting someone that actually works for the company. You are just hired to spin positive for Avalon nothing more. If you want to keep spining what he said feel free. Point is made buy elsewhere right from his own mouth.


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Quoted for posterity.

AVALON is here to stay I get it... All that matters these days are prices, and that it is not a pre order. There is simply no reason to buy from Avalon when other companies sell gear for cheaper.

As quoted by their own spokesman there is no point to buying this product.

"I know there are a number of instock products on the market with better $/GHs on pricing."

You going to actually quote me or you just going to make stuff up?
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dogiecoin.com
AVALON is here to stay I get it... All that matters these days are prices, and that it is not a pre order. There is simply no reason to buy from Avalon when other companies sell gear for cheaper.

As quoted by their own spokesman there is no point to buying this product.

"I know there are a number of instock products on the market with better $/GHs on pricing."

You going to actually quote me or you just going to make stuff up?
legendary
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A humble Siberian miner
Probably they have no goal to sell it. ) Having a number of that modules they can simply mine in solo... I would like to be at their place now. )
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AVALON is here to stay I get it... All that matters these days are prices, and that it is not a pre order. There is simply no reason to buy from Avalon when other companies sell gear for cheaper.

As quoted by their own spokesman there is no point to buying this product.

"I know there are a number of instock products on the market with better $/GHs on pricing."
legendary
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AVALON is here to stay I get it... All that matters these days are prices, and that it is not a pre order. There is simply no reason to buy from Avalon when other companies sell gear for cheaper.
legendary
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I should say that I don't own any of the machines I mentioned. From from what I read the old Prisma's have been recalled yes, but the new ones that they are selling have significant changes and work fine

As to products being near end of life, why does that matter they are available now.  I could have added several more to the list I was merely illustrating that everything else is cheaper and the avalon has no advantages that make it worth more.

If avalon had a long standing history of delivering excellent machines at good prices with first class support then maybe you could argue that would be worth a little extra (as happens with spondoolies).  Sadly the old avalon was rubbish and cost lots of people money, and the new avalon haven't delivered anything worth buying by normal consumers as it's arrived later than all it's competitors and always been more expensive.

I was clarifying what ngzhang was trying to put across, which is CC isn't going to play the 'lets lose money on every sale' game when competitors are only temporarily offering deals that good. CC is in it for the long haul, not the short sprint to clear stock.
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Prisma is being retired / recalled, I wouldn't include that. SP20s and S4s may be EOL'ed in the near future [speculation and speculation].

I should say that I don't own any of the machines I mentioned..

From from what I read the old Prisma's have been recalled yes, but the new ones that they are selling have significant changes and work fine

As to products being near end of life, why does that matter they are available now.  I could have added several more to the list I was merely illustrating that everything else is cheaper and the avalon has no advantages that make it worth more.

If avalon had a long standing history of delivering excellent machines at good prices with first class support then maybe you could argue that would be worth a little extra (as happens with spondoolies).  Sadly the old avalon was rubbish and cost lots of people money, and the new avalon haven't delivered anything worth buying by normal consumers as it's arrived later than all it's competitors and always been more expensive.
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Prisma is being retired / recalled, I wouldn't include that. SP20s and S4s may be EOL'ed in the near future [speculation and speculation].
legendary
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I know there are a number of instock products on the market with better $/GHs on pricing. This is their blood, no more bloodsucking form us.  Sorry.

Everything that is available to buy now is cheaper, and your machine has nothing to warrant paying any extra.

MachinePrice (BTC)Speed (GH)Power (W)w/GHBTC/THNotes
Avalon 41.42010006800.681.42Needs PSU
Bitmain S42.257200013800.691.128PSU Included
Prisma1.39140010500.750.992Needs PSU
Spond SP201.95170012000.701.147Needs PSU
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We will stand and fight.
What happened to no preorders?

This is in stock, shipping from hand?

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For retail, no pre-orders form 1 year ago.

We only sell in-stock products for retail more than 1 year.

Pre-order is for large orders . It's hard to immediately ship a large amount of  miners unless have a big private farm.

legendary
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What happened to no preorders?

This is in stock, shipping from hand?

Plenty of legit companies sell in hand hardware...this is no big deal.
legendary
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What happened to no preorders?

This is in stock, shipping from hand?
hero member
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So I think now is a very good time for personal famers. 90%+ of miner company close down and others are struggling to sell their backlog at a big lose, this year.

Avalon switch to build-to-(large)order model few months ago, we have no large backorders now. And we only sell products with margin, even it is really small. For retail, no pre-orders form 1 year ago.

We have confident for the product cost of $/GHs. Now our major work is next gen ASIC design, large scale mining farm design, mining management system development, supply chain management, etc..

In this and next month, we are busying deliver the preorders. Avalon4 moudle will continually have small upgrade in early 2015, 0.3w/GHs on the wall and 0.3$/GHs with margin is a short-term goal.

I know there are a number of instock products on the market with better $/GHs on pricing. This is their blood, no more bloodsucking form us.  Sorry.

Ya buy Bitcoin. Avoid these units. What happened to no preorders?
legendary
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I've received 2 of these courtesy of Canaan creative, thanks. I've yet to get them going but of course this means full support in mainline cgminer in the future.

-ck
legendary
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Ruu \o/
I've received 2 of these courtesy of Canaan creative, thanks. I've yet to get them going but of course this means full support in mainline cgminer in the future.
hero member
Activity: 592
Merit: 501
We will stand and fight.
So I think now is a very good time for personal famers. 90%+ of miner company close down and others are struggling to sell their backlog at a big lose, this year.

Avalon switch to build-to-(large)order model few months ago, we have no large backorders now. And we only sell products with margin, even it is really small. For retail, no pre-orders form 1 year ago.

We have confident for the product cost of $/GHs. Now our major work is next gen ASIC design, large scale mining farm design, mining management system development, supply chain management, etc..

In this and next month, we are busying deliver the preorders. Avalon4 moudle will continually have small upgrade in early 2015, 0.3w/GHs on the wall and 0.3$/GHs with margin is a short-term goal.

I know there are a number of instock products on the market with better $/GHs on pricing. This is their blood, no more bloodsucking form us.  Sorry.
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Amazing prices from an amazing company  Roll Eyes

Don't be like that, they are just misunderstood Wink

They really need to change their name to have any chance. Or they need a cash cow farmer.
legendary
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Amazing prices from an amazing company  Roll Eyes
legendary
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ASIC Wannabe
Nice power consumption if accurate. Price though .. 2 BTC after shipping for 1thash.

19.19BTC for 10 units - so yeah. Thats about $750/TH shipped

compare:
SP20: $850 shipped, or about $430/TH

this product wont go anywhere fast unless it can come down a lot in price.
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Nice power consumption if accurate. Price though .. 2 BTC after shipping for 1thash.
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