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Topic: AvalonShenzhen BATCH4 - 25 Avalon 215GH/s BTC1.10 - SCAM!!! (Read 2843 times)

legendary
Activity: 1148
Merit: 1000
Just to clear the record, AvalonShenzhen did NOT have a negative trust rating on February 14th, 2014 the day I placed an order for 1 miner. In fact he had 0 trust rating like most everyone here. It's disingenious of anyone to say that he had negative rating and that you should never have sent any bitcoins to someone with negative trust rating such as him. That's just not true.

For proof, here:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=223312

You can clear see that the perp did NOT receive a negative rating until the 15th of February, that is when he folded his tent, took the money and ran. I had placed my order for a miner on the 14th February, how could I have known about the negative rating at the time? The mods and more senior members are saying that the neg trust should have raised a red flag, but no one gave the perp a negative rating until after the perp took the money and ran!

It's all after the fact.

Clearly the system is broken. They are blaming the victims, even mocking us. You know what? Karma is a bitch. You will get yours. Thousand folds. F*ck you, you know who you are.

That's what I was trying to say but I guess people would rather take the 'you deserved it' approach.  The fact of the matter is that the entire design of the forum ENCOURAGES this type of activity and until the forum admits their role nothing will change.
A guy steals thousands of dollars and all he has to do to cover his tracks is request a mod to remove the thread?  REALLY?Huh
donator
Activity: 1890
Merit: 1010
Parental Advisory Explicit Content
1 word: ESCROW!
Always use protection  Grin
hero member
Activity: 742
Merit: 500
Just to clear the record, AvalonShenzhen did NOT have a negative trust rating on February 14th, 2014 the day I placed an order for 1 miner. In fact he had 0 trust rating like most everyone here. It's disingenious of anyone to say that he had negative rating and that you should never have sent any bitcoins to someone with negative trust rating such as him. That's just not true.

For proof, here:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=223312

You can clear see that the perp did NOT receive a negative rating until the 15th of February, that is when he folded his tent, took the money and ran. I had placed my order for a miner on the 14th February, how could I have known about the negative rating at the time? The mods and more senior members are saying that the neg trust should have raised a red flag, but no one gave the perp a negative rating until after the perp took the money and ran!

It's all after the fact.

Clearly the system is broken. They are blaming the victims, even mocking us. You know what? Karma is a bitch. You will get yours. Thousand folds. F*ck you, you know who you are.
Click untrusted feedback on his trust page. You'll see negatives going back to the 11th. He only closed up shop when i stumbled upon the thread (thanks to nottm28), and rated him down accordingly. Unfortunately, I have not mastered the art of time travel....yet.
member
Activity: 108
Merit: 10
if you idiots have so much money to blow and giving it to scammers, why not give it to a hardworking young man with a shitload of school debt =( like me
sr. member
Activity: 448
Merit: 250
Just to clear the record, AvalonShenzhen did NOT have a negative trust rating on February 14th, 2014 the day I placed an order for 1 miner. In fact he had 0 trust rating like most everyone here. It's disingenious of anyone to say that he had negative rating and that you should never have sent any bitcoins to someone with negative trust rating such as him. That's just not true.

For proof, here:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=223312

You can clear see that the perp did NOT receive a negative rating until the 15th of February, that is when he folded his tent, took the money and ran. I had placed my order for a miner on the 14th February, how could I have known about the negative rating at the time? The mods and more senior members are saying that the neg trust should have raised a red flag, but no one gave the perp a negative rating until after the perp took the money and ran!

It's all after the fact.

Clearly the system is broken. They are blaming the victims, even mocking us. You know what? Karma is a bitch. You will get yours. Thousand folds. F*ck you, you know who you are.
sr. member
Activity: 490
Merit: 250
newbie
Activity: 4
Merit: 0
sr. member
Activity: 406
Merit: 250
cats love crypto | 911 truth @checktheevidence.com
If you are from the US contact the FBI with all the details of the theft $50K theft is enough to get there attention.

http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/investigate/cyber

Right... scammer should learn that Bitcoin isnt the wild west. Im supporting the lawsuit and investigation against the labcoin scammers too.
Unfortunately such investigations lead to news of the dangerous bitcoins. But better this then letting the scamming going on without fighting them.

Thank you Sebastian!!! Good to have someone with so much experience & kindness supporting us!
sr. member
Activity: 406
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cats love crypto | 911 truth @checktheevidence.com
again as ive posted in the other threads did the neg trust not make it obvious? or maybe all the posts by me, barwizi and notmm being deleted?

To me the trust showed as 0 and how should i have known your post were being deleted? I will now check this forum before buying anything here. Goddamnit I was the last one to fall for this!!!
legendary
Activity: 2674
Merit: 1083
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If you are from the US contact the FBI with all the details of the theft $50K theft is enough to get there attention.

http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/investigate/cyber

Right... scammer should learn that Bitcoin isnt the wild west. Im supporting the lawsuit and investigation against the labcoin scammers too.
Unfortunately such investigations lead to news of the dangerous bitcoins. But better this then letting the scamming going on without fighting them.
sr. member
Activity: 490
Merit: 250
If you are from the US contact the FBI with all the details of the theft $50K theft is enough to get there attention.

http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/investigate/cyber


Other US cyber crime LE


https://postalinspectors.uspis.gov/


http://www.justice.gov/criminal/cybercrime/


http://www.ice.gov/cyber-crimes/


http://www.ic3.gov/default.aspx


Feel free to add details for you're region.


Follow the money here > https://blockchain.info/address/e659a2b53fec5c8864213fe9af39b7aad6c0b825



return my stolen BTC 14rBip93ePwJMp3kiFgz2WJ424p3iUSpEG
legendary
Activity: 2674
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Legendary Escrow Service - Tip Jar in Profile
Curious why the BTC is still at the order addy.  https://blockchain.info/address/1Mzyo7PYfsxNLyNWhnznUYfiX1Kf6LFqkh

why was it not transferred to other addys? Huh

IMO this, more than anything else! is evidence of why BTC will fail. Here we have a situation where there is a known thief and the money he stole is able to be traced and still there is nothing that can be done to return it to its rightful owners.
Gee if only there was some kind of centralized management of this stuff maybe the poor souls (me included) could get back their funds from this low life. 

Such centralized management would mean bitcoin could be attacked and closed down easily. And the chargeback could be used by scammers again, like its done with paypal. I would never sell bitcoins for paypal because the chargeback feature would let you with nothing at the end.
So no, i never want to see Bitcoins becoming a Paypal...
Like Ahmed wrote... everyone here probable made errors already, including me, but there are ways to protect yourself.
hero member
Activity: 518
Merit: 500
Bitrated user: ahmedbodi.
Curious why the BTC is still at the order addy.  https://blockchain.info/address/1Mzyo7PYfsxNLyNWhnznUYfiX1Kf6LFqkh

why was it not transferred to other addys? Huh

IMO this, more than anything else! is evidence of why BTC will fail. Here we have a situation where there is a known thief and the money he stole is able to be traced and still there is nothing that can be done to return it to its rightful owners.
Gee if only there was some kind of centralized management of this stuff maybe the poor souls (me included) could get back their funds from this low life.  



actually this is not the downfall of bitcoin. the failure is in you'reself not checking out the scammer more clearly. the telltale signs we're all there

1) selling the item cheaper than anyone else
2) refusing escrow
3) refusing paypal
4) full of newbies with low post counts
5) no senior's with prroof of receipt
6) self moderated thread with deleted posts
7) negative trust rating
8 no pictures/video's from the seller themselves

How many more signs did you need? If you can't be bothered to research then the fault lies on you. You sent the coins without checking out who he is, so its you're fault that you got scammed.
full member
Activity: 137
Merit: 100
Got f*cked too for 1.1 BTC.. Let's hope he stumbles and breaks his neck..
I'd rather he stumble and fall into the path of a few strays from my 308! Took me for 1.1 too. Haven't lost this much since my great Terrahash investment.
legendary
Activity: 1148
Merit: 1000
Got f*cked too for 1.1 BTC.. Let's hope he stumbles and breaks his neck..

I have BTC available for anyone who happens to be there with a running video camera!!
legendary
Activity: 1148
Merit: 1000
Curious why the BTC is still at the order addy.  https://blockchain.info/address/1Mzyo7PYfsxNLyNWhnznUYfiX1Kf6LFqkh

why was it not transferred to other addys? Huh

IMO this, more than anything else! is evidence of why BTC will fail. Here we have a situation where there is a known thief and the money he stole is able to be traced and still there is nothing that can be done to return it to its rightful owners.
Gee if only there was some kind of centralized management of this stuff maybe the poor souls (me included) could get back their funds from this low life. 

hero member
Activity: 518
Merit: 500
Bitrated user: ahmedbodi.
again as ive posted in the other threads did the neg trust not make it obvious? or maybe all the posts by me, barwizi and notmm being deleted?
full member
Activity: 201
Merit: 100
I was taken for 5 units...

Here is a list of users on his batch 1-2 that are all linked to him:

NicolaeTT https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/nicolaett-227257
AlfonsoD https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/alfonsod-226216
joehash https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/joehash-227233
Jicoli **NOT A MEMBER OF THE FORUM**
Bitdreamer **NOT A MEMBER OF THE FORUM**
Jeronico **NOT A MEMBER OF THE FORUM**
Andrew **NOT A MEMBER OF THE FORUM**
Krzyszt **NOT A MEMBER OF THE FORUM**
MariusC **NOT A MEMBER OF THE FORUM**
Reuan **NOT A MEMBER OF THE FORUM**
Mathew **NOT A MEMBER OF THE FORUM**
Sabine **NOT A MEMBER OF THE FORUM**
William **NOT A MEMBER OF THE FORUM**
AndreyK https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/andreyk-21373 NOT LINKED TO THE SCAM DUE TO THE CREATION DATE

We need to get the top 3 user names labeled as scammers in case he tried to do the same thing with them at a later date.
newbie
Activity: 7
Merit: 0
sr. member
Activity: 490
Merit: 250
Curious why the BTC is still at the order addy.  https://blockchain.info/address/1Mzyo7PYfsxNLyNWhnznUYfiX1Kf6LFqkh

why was it not transferred to other addys? Huh
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