Topic: AvalonShenzhen SCAMMER - page 4. (Read 10146 times)

Your right safe-mail will have his real ip when first sign up, after that they can change settings.
But his real name is not possible, unless the IPS is willing to give that. Maybe ask someone in Israel?

There were actually 3 or 4 on there for a few days prior to mine. I posted it as soon as i found out about it though. The problem was that only those with default trust or green trust ratings can leave an automatic red negative feedback. If you're looking at someone's profile and don't see any feedback, click their trust link, and then click untrusted feedback to double check in the future. It's a way of keeping the trust system in some sort of order.

unless everyone opened these threads after mine. i dont believe it was. i posted my neg rep about 4 days ago.

Bottom right 'report to moderator' - I did this with his thread a few times - he was allowed to carry on for over a week. The forum could do more IMO - like 'read' the 'report to moderator' messages.

[edit] I never lost money here - but I see a pattern of abuse over the last year that is simply going unaddressed.

The negative trust rating was after he robbed everyone...not terribly useful.
He def. did not have that when I dove in.

I don't beat around the bush. If i have something to say, I say it. So I'm not sure what you're trying to imply, however I am glad that simple comment got you so heated. Perhaps you will learn the third time. Either way, getting this irate at people that actually tried to help those who were scammed out is just plain ridiculous. you're clearly not in a proper state of mind. I hope you take some time to cool off.

EDIT: perhaps you missed my negative trust rating of him?
"Member operating a group buy on a moderated thread, deleting any questions or comments about the legitimacy of it. No units received thus far. Every move screams scammer so far. Will remove my rating when a reputable member provides proof of delivery. Forums members should exercise EXTREME caution when purchasing from this group buy."

Now nothing douchebag.  You are a senior member of this forum and to post something as smug and arrogant as that makes you a fucking asshole. And as for whatever else this bullshit is that you aren't coming out and saying allow me to just point out a few things...

I'm not some skell trolling the forum for a way to burn people...I'm 40+ yrs old with a family and a job in real life.
I met someone who is on this forum in person and handed them a nice chunk of change for a piece of hardware.  There was no bullshit...no story...no drama & no problems.  He handed me the hardware and I handed him an envelope full of money.

I came to this forum because it seemed to be the best place to learn and get involved in this grand experiment but the more time I spend here the more I see what the true purpose of this place is.  TO RIP PEOPLE OFF.

The forum is complicate in every one of these scams.  They do nothing about it and then those of us who lose our hard earned cash get told as a bonus that we fucking deserved it.
 

Here's what you guys need to do (I don't know if Irish law deviates from other legal frameworks):

1. Find a lawyer who is tech-saavy (a lawyer specializing in Technology).
2. Call lawyer, inform the lawyer of information that can be made available (his Safe-Mail e-mail address is a good start here)
3. Ensure you have proof that a contract of some sort was breached (his PMs and his thread ought to suffice).
4. Provide this to information to the lawyer

@ this point the lawyer should be able to elaborate on the next steps which would be:
5. Police report
6. Culminate all information into a court order/subpoena - issue this to SafeMail requesting every IP address associated with this account.

It is VERY likely that he is using Tor/VPN, but also very likely that he slipped up somewhere.
Do some digging in the IP trail; find one that doesn't bring you to a VPN / Tor node.

Use aforementioned information to subpoena/court order this ISP.  Get account holder name.

At this point -> local PD.

Account holder will probably deny involvement.
This is where your lawyer / PI will help you.

Cost for subpoenas are about $0 - $10.
Information to issue one could be between $0-$1,000.

Total process could be quite a bit, depending on how involved your lawyer is.

THE POINT here is that if your lawyer thinks he can track this person down and reclaim some money, he will do it because it's possible and it's in his/her best interest.

I am pursuing a Law Degree in Technology, but this information is purely from an amateur perspective.

You can find this guy because I guarantee that at some point in his quest, he fucked up.  
Unfortunately Bitcointalk isn't of help.  I bet those alt-accounts of his possess more information than AvalonShenzhen would like.  

i know. and i definitly agree with you. thats why im so wary about buying anything from anyone on here without escrow. when he refused both that and paypal alarm bells started ringing. and then the real blow came when he deleted both and mine and barwizi's posts.

Cigarette?


I saw your posts ahmed, pity they were deleted so quick. Never ceases to amaze me how this same perpetual gang of scammers can operate so easily on here. But when you see it's so easy to steal 80 BTC or about $50k, no wonder some sad b*startds think why should I get a job?

We have a winner! I watch as people blindly send funds to persons that are iffy at best and many even have negative Trust. What can you do?

again as predicted. did the neg trust not even make it any obvious to you guys? or did u just think im a troll?
maybe a better question is to ask if you guys even checked his trust feedback.

Done. What now?

Why would this forum be responsible for your carelessness? How is this, in any way, anyone's fault but your own?

go fuck yourself asshole.

I'm fucking sick of hearing people say use your brian, etc.

This forum has to answer for being part of people getting ripped off on a daily basis.  You have created an environment where the thieves get protection...plain and simple.

Something is going to be done about this.


WTF good does it do to flag them?  They just create new accounts and go on as if nothing ever happened.  Flagging them is a fucking waste of time.

85 btc in a few hours - power of the Dumb Side.

That is bs talk, because decieving has nothing to do with "people's unwillingles to think".

How do you process wrong inputs? If inputs are corrupted, output will be too.

The answer, as a mod here already pointed out, is to use the various tools at your disposal, including your head. This is a good place to start. No amount of "system building" will make up for people's unwillingness to think and learn, rather you'll progressively give up various freedoms to whoever's tasked with thinking for you until you have none. This is Bitcoin, and that sort of system doesn't belong here.

I was taken for 5 units...

Here is a list of users on his batch 1-2 that are all linked to him:

NicolaeTT https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/nicolaett-227257
AlfonsoD https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/alfonsod-226216
joehash https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/joehash-227233
Jicoli **NOT A MEMBER OF THE FORUM**
Bitdreamer **NOT A MEMBER OF THE FORUM**
Jeronico **NOT A MEMBER OF THE FORUM**
Andrew **NOT A MEMBER OF THE FORUM**
Krzyszt **NOT A MEMBER OF THE FORUM**
MariusC **NOT A MEMBER OF THE FORUM**
Reuan **NOT A MEMBER OF THE FORUM**
Mathew **NOT A MEMBER OF THE FORUM**
Sabine **NOT A MEMBER OF THE FORUM**
William **NOT A MEMBER OF THE FORUM**
AndreyK https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/andreyk-21373 NOT LINKED TO THE SCAM DUE TO THE CREATION DATE

We need to get the top 3 user names labeled as scammers in case he tried to do the same thing with them at a later date.