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Quote from: gentlemand on March 31, 2015, 02:27:01 PM

Nope. I set a limit as to what I was willing to spend and how many coins I thought would make a difference to my life in the future if it really took off and stuck to it. If I want more then I'll earn it or trade for it.

If it dies, so be it. I'm not going to chase it downwards. The idea of spending more to reduce a loss doesn't really compute for me.

I'm on the same boat

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I bought in at higher prices and now I'm buying in again getting much more bitcoin for my fiat. I don't see it as averaging down though. I'm just taking advantage of prices lower than i thought I'd see. Quite glad of the chance, these prices are a gift

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That's not quite true. If you can buy 3 times as many Bitcoin at $100 each, then the future gains will be triple. Your argument only stands if you are planning on buying X Bitcoins regardless of price.

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Quote from: manselr on April 01, 2015, 01:31:40 PM

Everyday that you haven't gone all in since sub 300 is an huge risk. Why you ask? well it's simple, you will see in a couple of years how trying to buy at 300, 200 or 100 was a joke compared to the gains that were to be made, and the huge risk it was, with the perspective of time.

It's a long, long way from being in the bag. Very soon we'll be at a lower price than we were two years ago, albeit very briefly.

The case for gains is strong. There are things happening and developing that would've been inconceivable just a short while ago. The downside case has plenty of merits too.

Peeps should keep their wits and sense of perspective close at hand. Nothing is guaranteed to anyone.

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Quote from: brokenchair on March 31, 2015, 01:54:07 PM

Have a lot of you been doing this the entire time?
Debating doing a large purchase, but then again every time I have tried to do this well......look at the btc price history for the past year........ and of course the current decline since the last time we crossed 300

Everyday that you haven't gone all in since sub 300 is an huge risk. Why you ask? well it's simple, you will see in a couple of years how trying to buy at 300, 200 or 100 was a joke compared to the gains that were to be made, and the huge risk it was, with the perspective of time.

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Quote from: AmDD on March 31, 2015, 02:32:43 PM

I used to try and buy at the right time during the lows, etc and ended up getting burnt. Now I buy once a week, every week, regardless of price.

same, why bother trading something with such moon potential at any moment... dont fancy sitting in front of a screen all day so just buy and hold.

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Quote from: brokenchair on March 31, 2015, 03:25:53 PM

Thanks for the replies.
I guess i'll transfer money to an exchange just incase anything big happens anytime soon, but right now I feel like its such a gamble.

you should buy, everytime you see a stable price like the current one that remain there for weeks/months, it mean that it is time to buy

i do not see it dropping much further, loss should be minimal

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Quote from: gentlemand on March 31, 2015, 02:27:01 PM

Nope. I set a limit as to what I was willing to spend and how many coins I thought would make a difference to my life in the future if it really took off and stuck to it. If I want more then I'll earn it or trade for it.

If it dies, so be it. I'm not going to chase it downwards. The idea of spending more to reduce a loss doesn't really compute for me.

yeah, my feelings exactly. Not going to chase it. If it is going to make it-OK. If not, then it would not.
Averaging down does not work in 80-90% cases on the stock market as well.

Cool, wait for an uptrend to be confirmed at 400+, then buy.

^{(But then you could have bought at $240, oh well... you can chase it on the way up)}

Not certain if this is meant sarcastically or not, but this thinking is one of the main reasons people lose money on stocks and investments. They wait for the market to move, then trade, meaning they buy high sell low, whereas obviously you want to do it the other way round.

Never chase it, down or up!

Sarcastic or not, many people do trade that way, and it can provide great rewards for short-term traders.
Shhhh... Don't tell the newbies.

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Quote from: JimboToronto on March 31, 2015, 10:34:14 PM

Every time I buy on the dips, I'm averaging my price up, even when I bought at $175 mid-January.

No, I'm not an early adopter (any more than we're all early adopters). I paid double digits for most of my coins, triple digits for some. Never have I paid single digits or pennies.

Same here. Got some close to single digits though, but used most of those on purchases in 2013.

Now I just constantly buy, just about everyday. I try to buy the dips just to have some fun, and screw over the bears (buy the coins at the bottom of a dip that they were dumping to get to). Average is still in the double digits though. As soon as the funds start up I will roll over my 401k and use my companies 2 to 1 matching to grow my stash. That will definitely bring my average to triple digits. I'm a permabull so the only number I look at is how many coins, not how much they are worth.

Smart man.

My biggest mistake was to only buy hundreds rather than thousands of coins when I had the chance.

Now I have to be content to just buy a few coins now and then as my budget allows. My last purchase of >10BTC in a single day was in mid-January and I had to reallocate funds from other areas to accomplish that. I'm not poor but I'm not rich either.

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Quote from: Torque on March 31, 2015, 05:58:07 PM

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Quote from: gentlemand on March 31, 2015, 02:27:01 PM

Nope. I set a limit as to what I was willing to spend and how many coins I thought would make a difference to my life in the future if it really took off and stuck to it. If I want more then I'll earn it or trade for it.

If it dies, so be it. I'm not going to chase it downwards. The idea of spending more to reduce a loss doesn't really compute for me.

yeah, my feelings exactly. Not going to chase it. If it is going to make it-OK. If not, then it would not.
Averaging down does not work in 80-90% cases on the stock market as well.

Cool, wait for an uptrend to be confirmed at 400+, then buy.

^{(But then you could have bought at $240, oh well... you can chase it on the way up)}

Not certain if this is meant sarcastically or not, but this thinking is one of the main reasons people lose money on stocks and investments. They wait for the market to move, then trade, meaning they buy high sell low, whereas obviously you want to do it the other way round.

Never chase it, down or up!

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Quote from: JimboToronto on March 31, 2015, 10:34:14 PM

Every time I buy on the dips, I'm averaging my price up, even when I bought at $175 mid-January.

No, I'm not an early adopter (any more than we're all early adopters). I paid double digits for most of my coins, triple digits for some. Never have I paid single digits or pennies.

Same here. Got some close to single digits though, but used most of those on purchases in 2013.

Now I just constantly buy, just about everyday. I try to buy the dips just to have some fun, and screw over the bears (buy the coins at the bottom of a dip that they were dumping to get to). Average is still in the double digits though. As soon as the funds start up I will roll over my 401k and use my companies 2 to 1 matching to grow my stash. That will definitely bring my average to triple digits. I'm a permabull so the only number I look at is how many coins, not how much they are worth.

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You're never too old to think young.

Every time I buy on the dips, I'm averaging my price up, even when I bought at $175 mid-January.

No, I'm not an early adopter (any more than we're all early adopters). I paid double digits for most of my coins, triple digits for some. Never have I paid single digits or pennies.

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Quote from: spazzdla on March 31, 2015, 02:35:13 PM

I have been buying all the way down to bring down my average buy price.

Right now is probably a decent idea, I am debating doing it myself.

Yup, hold until another price hike happens.

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Quote from: Torque on March 31, 2015, 05:58:07 PM

Quote from: Biodom on March 31, 2015, 05:51:18 PM

Quote from: gentlemand on March 31, 2015, 02:27:01 PM

Nope. I set a limit as to what I was willing to spend and how many coins I thought would make a difference to my life in the future if it really took off and stuck to it. If I want more then I'll earn it or trade for it.

If it dies, so be it. I'm not going to chase it downwards. The idea of spending more to reduce a loss doesn't really compute for me.

yeah, my feelings exactly. Not going to chase it. If it is going to make it-OK. If not, then it would not.
Averaging down does not work in 80-90% cases on the stock market as well.

Cool, wait for an uptrend to be confirmed at 400+, then buy.

^{(But then you could have bought at $240, oh well... you can chase it on the way up)}

Don't let your trades to be driven by greed, especially on the potential future gains.
If you don't catch the exact bottom, then be it, but you are in at least at the point when you are sure that the trend is as you think it is.

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Quote from: Biodom on March 31, 2015, 05:51:18 PM

Quote from: gentlemand on March 31, 2015, 02:27:01 PM

Nope. I set a limit as to what I was willing to spend and how many coins I thought would make a difference to my life in the future if it really took off and stuck to it. If I want more then I'll earn it or trade for it.

If it dies, so be it. I'm not going to chase it downwards. The idea of spending more to reduce a loss doesn't really compute for me.

yeah, my feelings exactly. Not going to chase it. If it is going to make it-OK. If not, then it would not.
Averaging down does not work in 80-90% cases on the stock market as well.

Cool, wait for an uptrend to be confirmed at 400+, then buy.

^{(But then you could have bought at $240, oh well... you can chase it on the way up)}

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Quote from: gentlemand on March 31, 2015, 02:27:01 PM

Nope. I set a limit as to what I was willing to spend and how many coins I thought would make a difference to my life in the future if it really took off and stuck to it. If I want more then I'll earn it or trade for it.

If it dies, so be it. I'm not going to chase it downwards. The idea of spending more to reduce a loss doesn't really compute for me.

yeah, my feelings exactly. Not going to chase it. If it is going to make it-OK. If not, then it would not.
Averaging down does not work in 80-90% cases on the stock market as well.

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Quote from: gentlemand on March 31, 2015, 02:27:01 PM

Nope. I set a limit as to what I was willing to spend and how many coins I thought would make a difference to my life in the future if it really took off and stuck to it. If I want more then I'll earn it or trade for it.

If it dies, so be it. I'm not going to chase it downwards. The idea of spending more to reduce a loss doesn't really compute for me.

Pretty smart.

I think most can learn from this, is that its better to not chase trades that may or may not go up. I tooken a similar approach with bitcoin as well, I earn most of mine and thats obviously with other misc work or signatures like 90% users are on this forum.

But I will never go buy it, and yeah some people call me a fool, but how can you call a fool when someones trying to predict the future?

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Yes I'll admit that I've "averaged down" on bitcoin. Actually just bought some more @ $220 a month ago, and still don't regret it. At some point you have to let it ride, man.

Only bulls and permabulls do this.

The bear troll day traders would never do this, they only open/close long short bitcoin positions in short time frames. But of course, day traders don't see bitcoin as real money, as an asset to hold long term and actually use in the real world. They only see it as something that can use to profit (or lose) more fiat on. Most of them lose... constantly.

Something to consider:
When bitcoin takes off again, it'll catch you completely off-guard. It'll triple in price before you can even hit the "buy" button. So ask yourself, is that really the place you want to be, being late to the party?

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Quote from: brokenchair on March 31, 2015, 01:54:07 PM

Have a lot of you been doing this the entire time?
Debating doing a large purchase, but then again every time I have tried to do this well......look at the btc price history for the past year........ and of course the current decline since the last time we crossed 300

not a good idea, unless you have really big pockets.
Remember that market can always move in the 'wrong direction' longer that you can afford.

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Thanks for the replies.
I guess i'll transfer money to an exchange just incase anything big happens anytime soon, but right now I feel like its such a gamble.

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