I love it! This will be the most epicest video card since the Voodoo5 6000.
Maybe ATi should include an external power supply too?
Topic: [AVL NOW] Countdown to radeon 7990 - page 5. (Read 11407 times)
OMG FOUR pci power connects?
I love it! This will be the most epicest video card since the Voodoo5 6000.
Maybe ATi should include an external power supply too?
I love it! This will be the most epicest video card since the Voodoo5 6000.
Maybe ATi should include an external power supply too?
Anyone complaining about there being 4x 6 pin PCIe Power Connectors on the 7990 after being told of the cards Multi Phase power delivery system is an idiot (or at the very least an illiterate main-streamer entering a world well beyond his/her intellectual grasp/comprehension). Insulting? Just being 100% honest... there is no getting around that.
But then again most of these folks are from the same generation that considers Katy Perry, Lady Gaga and Justin Bieber to be "Artists". Of course... "pre-packaged, mass produced frozen Turkey diners taste just like a REAL HOME COOKED TURKEY MEAL" Said Nobody Ever.
If it performs better with Multi Phase power delivery by allowing for more stable clock rates (Overclock or not) and more efficient use of power...
I'm sold.
But the thing is, all those connectors are DC. The multi-phase arrangement is part of the PWM system, which doesn't care how many DC connectors there are as long as it gets enough volts and amps. You could have one big ass pair of wires per card, and still have stable power, since the PWM system does all the magic.But then again most of these folks are from the same generation that considers Katy Perry, Lady Gaga and Justin Bieber to be "Artists". Of course... "pre-packaged, mass produced frozen Turkey diners taste just like a REAL HOME COOKED TURKEY MEAL" Said Nobody Ever.
If it performs better with Multi Phase power delivery by allowing for more stable clock rates (Overclock or not) and more efficient use of power...
I'm sold.
Exactly.
Anyone complaining about there being 4x 6 pin PCIe Power Connectors on the 7990 after being told of the cards Multi Phase power delivery system is an idiot (or at the very least an illiterate main-streamer entering a world well beyond his/her intellectual grasp/comprehension). Insulting? Just being 100% honest... there is no getting around that.
But then again most of these folks are from the same generation that considers Katy Perry, Lady Gaga and Justin Bieber to be "Artists". Of course... "pre-packaged, mass produced frozen Turkey diners taste just like a REAL HOME COOKED TURKEY MEAL" Said Nobody Ever.
If it performs better with Multi Phase power delivery by allowing for more stable clock rates (Overclock or not) and more efficient use of power...
I'm sold.
But the thing is, all those connectors are DC. The multi-phase arrangement is part of the PWM system, which doesn't care how many DC connectors there are as long as it gets enough volts and amps. You could have one big ass pair of wires per card, and still have stable power, since the PWM system does all the magic. But then again most of these folks are from the same generation that considers Katy Perry, Lady Gaga and Justin Bieber to be "Artists". Of course... "pre-packaged, mass produced frozen Turkey diners taste just like a REAL HOME COOKED TURKEY MEAL" Said Nobody Ever.
If it performs better with Multi Phase power delivery by allowing for more stable clock rates (Overclock or not) and more efficient use of power...
I'm sold.
Anyone have anymore info?
And has there been an MSRP released yet?
So what's the latest on the actual release date? I'd love to pick one of these up for BLOPS2.
The heat is a boon in the winter, considering most "portable space heaters" run around 1500 watts, a PC can easily replace one in a cold room.
That made me laugh. Playing BF3 (or whatever) to stay warm.
I don't doubt these cards will go out in the 900+ territory, that's a lot of home heating fuel.
Don't get me wrong, I am not asserting that there are more miners than 'general' overclockers, but I am saying that there are probably more miners than 'super' overclockers that know what multiphase power is going to get them and how best to turn that into a competitive advantage for the benchmarks. (as I don't think they actually play games like that)
Your general enthusiast will probably OC their card a bit for better framerates and some e-peen but they will probably not be able to fully utilize these new multiphase power setups to their upmost as 1) they don't care and 2) they are not going to mod their card aside from maybe a water block.
I fall into this 'general' overclocker family as I will OC my card(s) for better framerates but I will probably not utilize "three group multiphase power regulation" to its fullest ever. I am sure I will not want to deal with the extra heat and noise that OCing my card to the roof will avail me. Most games its diminishing returns anyway.
Your general enthusiast will probably OC their card a bit for better framerates and some e-peen but they will probably not be able to fully utilize these new multiphase power setups to their upmost as 1) they don't care and 2) they are not going to mod their card aside from maybe a water block.
I fall into this 'general' overclocker family as I will OC my card(s) for better framerates but I will probably not utilize "three group multiphase power regulation" to its fullest ever. I am sure I will not want to deal with the extra heat and noise that OCing my card to the roof will avail me. Most games its diminishing returns anyway.
The heat is a boon in the winter, considering most "portable space heaters" run around 1500 watts, a PC can easily replace one in a cold room.
Don't get me wrong, I am not asserting that there are more miners than 'general' overclockers, but I am saying that there are probably more miners than 'super' overclockers that know what multiphase power is going to get them and how best to turn that into a competitive advantage for the benchmarks. (as I don't think they actually play games like that)
Your general enthusiast will probably OC their card a bit for better framerates and some e-peen but they will probably not be able to fully utilize these new multiphase power setups to their upmost as 1) they don't care and 2) they are not going to mod their card aside from maybe a water block.
I fall into this 'general' overclocker family as I will OC my card(s) for better framerates but I will probably not utilize "three group multiphase power regulation" to its fullest ever. I am sure I will not want to deal with the extra heat and noise that OCing my card to the roof will avail me. Most games its diminishing returns anyway.
Your general enthusiast will probably OC their card a bit for better framerates and some e-peen but they will probably not be able to fully utilize these new multiphase power setups to their upmost as 1) they don't care and 2) they are not going to mod their card aside from maybe a water block.
I fall into this 'general' overclocker family as I will OC my card(s) for better framerates but I will probably not utilize "three group multiphase power regulation" to its fullest ever. I am sure I will not want to deal with the extra heat and noise that OCing my card to the roof will avail me. Most games its diminishing returns anyway.
I guess my sarcastic point was that for the costs associated and the grief in engineering they should have just made a more 'normal' dual gpu card and be damned about all the extra bells and whistles for super overclockers as they hold even less market share than miners do.
That's an interesting point. These particular cards are the top of the line extreme items and will carry hefty price tags. This kind of mark up demands superior engineering.
IF board partners (like Powercolor or Sapphire etc) wanted to make 7870x2 , 7950x2 or even simpler 7970x2 etc... then they COULD. It's entirely within their scope and they'd do it if there was a market that they could latch onto. I'd say by the absence of such products, there is little market that they feel they could capture outside of the existing product lines.
The assertion that more people mine than overclock doesn't ring true with me in any case. The big forums like H and Xtremesystems and so on definitely add up to more enthusiasts than BTC miners.
So a nice dual card that undervolts and is easy to manage could be aimed squarely at the miners, but I think dedicated mining hardware from places like BFL is showing that this particular ship has sailed.
I guess my sarcastic point was that for the costs associated and the grief in engineering they should have just made a more 'normal' dual gpu card and be damned about all the extra bells and whistles for super overclockers as they hold even less market share than miners do.
Wouldn't it be better if they stopped worrying so much about overclockability and all the caveats that entails and just made a fast card out of the box?
Maybe even make it run off of two 8pin cables, that would be so cool.
Maybe even make it run off of two 8pin cables, that would be so cool.
It is a fast card out of the box...
Here's the "thing". In order to comply to the PCI-e official specifications, the card has to remain within a 300W (or less) power envelope out of the box. So when you take it out of the box and plug it in it's fast, but only 300W (or less) worth of fast. That means if Joseph Ding Dong with his shiny whitebox home built PC and FANCY Diablotek 650 W Firestarter (err I mean power supply) plugs in this card, it might actually work without blowing up in flames. Might (It's a diablotek after all) Conforming to the PCI-e spec means these things can be certified for use in OEM machines like Dell and HP etc...
Now Jo Over Clocker with his 80 plus Gold rated 1500W monster plugs in two of these beasts and decides to feed them every watt they can handle to the tune of 450+ watts a piece and squeeze every single pixel out of them... well the cards are wired up for that too... beyond the PCi-e spec.
A lot of big PSU's have multiple rails and it's nice to be able balance something like this across them.
tl dr: the card is made for gamers and gamers rigs we are a secondary market only.
Doesn't powercolor's card have 3x8-pin PCI-e?
You could run 3 of those off an enermax platimax without any additional connectors... would be good for something like 3.7Ghash.
You could run 3 of those off an enermax platimax without any additional connectors... would be good for something like 3.7Ghash.
yeah, it'll finally beat the 5970 in gaming performance
Wouldn't it be better if they stopped worrying so much about overclockability and all the caveats that entails and just made a fast card out of the box?
Maybe even make it run off of two 8pin cables, that would be so cool.
Maybe even make it run off of two 8pin cables, that would be so cool.
+1
"Damn you AMD you designed it to be MORE stable for overclocking but now I have to use these 8 pin to 2x6 pin adapters, YOU BASTARDS!"
"Damn you AMD you designed it to be MORE stable for overclocking but now I have to use these 8 pin to 2x6 pin adapters, YOU BASTARDS!"
It's a three group multiphase power regulation...
Not for MORE power, for better power, these chips will clock like crazy. The voltage input on these chips will be very stable.
Not for MORE power, for better power, these chips will clock like crazy. The voltage input on these chips will be very stable.
It's a three group multiphase power regulation...
Not for MORE power, for better power, these chips will clock like crazy. The voltage input on these chips will be very stable.
Not for MORE power, for better power, these chips will clock like crazy. The voltage input on these chips will be very stable.
still, dont think it will be worth 4 pci cables... im not even sure win7 will load 4 of these monsters
16pci plugs..what a clusterfuk
It's a three group multiphase power regulation...
Not for MORE power, for better power, these chips will clock like crazy. The voltage input on these chips will be very stable.
Not for MORE power, for better power, these chips will clock like crazy. The voltage input on these chips will be very stable.
Maybe has an 8-phase PSU.
I have been waiting for these things since march... i have SeaSonics and mobo ready... but to waste 4 of my precious gpu power connectors on one card... NO THANKS. i hate molex connectors.
bummer.......
Quite so. bummer.......
Do the PCIe bridge chip and the memory really need as much power as both the GPUs combined?
EDIT: Derp, 4x 6-pins, not 3. Still it works out to the same wattage as 2x 8-pins.
The PCIe bridge chip should use barely any power. The RAM should not use anywhere near the GPU's lol.... that would be madness
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