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The only reason we have decided to leave just one role for starters is that so we could test all the procedures ( kyc, task completion, rewarding) and make the scaling up process as smooth as possible.  If there was any miscommunication or misunderstanding, we apologize for that. It is not our intention to exclude anyone who wants to be a part of this club. As it was stated, there will be lots of roles, for our users, but only after testing period. Also you can see all the updates and all the publications about us in our official social media. So you can’t say that this project is a scam, it’s a longterm project and all the roles will be available later


You want to pick which issues you answer and then overall conclusion should be positive? It doesnt work that way. My post above was to warn people of your project as it is clearly setup to benefit B2B company only and not investors, but since you want to cherry pick what you answer, I will consider that as an invitation to elaborate without giving you an option to skip issue so I will make them into points with quotes from "whitepaper" and "tokenomy" https://www.b2bx.pro/ :

- "Starting from January 2018 the payment of commissions by all participants - members of the B2BX ecosystem will be accepted exclusively in B2BX Tokens." Care to explain how is it, that you have 3 million in trade volume of token (daily), but not 1 bit of price increase? Each time, large amounts of tokens are sold / bought in an instant, always around 100 sats below lowest offering price?
I will tell you what is clear from above, you are actually accepting FIAT money as commission payment and then you buy tokens on exchanges from your self to pump up the volume while being very careful not to buy a single token from any other investor.
I would be more than happy you prove me wrong, but what I stated are cold hard FACTS that anyone can check by visiting any exchange this token is listed on OOOOOOOR check out this snapshot from today, taken on TIDEX:



This is so sad...its ALMOST funny. You lowered your buy / sell bot to go 44 sats under that guy who is selling 1000+ tokens so you dont have to buy his? Truly petty on your part.

- Nowhere in tokenomy did you say that 20% of commission to be paid to "active participants" will be voluntary on your side. Nowhere did you mention that even if you did register a person as
active participant it is purely voluntary on your side to actually give them any tasks, therefor they are omitted from any payments.
Let me elaborate on this big issue. This had a purpose of disabling the B2B to continue doing what I stated in first point, meaning, B2B would be holding less and less tokens over time, hence forcing increase of the price.
What they did is strike this 20% as voluntary in order to continue purchasing same tokens from them selves over and over again resulting in extremely low volume other than you buying from your self!

- Tokenomy was supposed to start in December ("Admission of applications for membership in the Active Participants Club will begin in December 2017" https://www.b2bx.pro/docs/b2bx_tokenomy-en.pdf ) it didnt . People held on to tokens because of it. Now, in March, we learn that only 126 investors (feel free to check on explorer) who hold over 20 000 tokens (instead of over 1000 token holders) will be eligible for Tokenomy.

Should you decide to answer, do answer point by point and not only what suits you, while taking it out of context.

Now you have a choice... either be quiet and assume most people are that naive to purchase more of your tokens or answer all points like I did... with proof.

One last thing:

Meaning of a word SCAM is: "fraudulent scheme".In your whitepaper you have stated 6 points why the value of the tokens will rise. You have not fulfilled ANY of them to this date. This constitutes a clear definition of SCAM.

Waiting for your reply.






As we announced earlier, our team decided not to compromise and not get listed on non-TOP exchanges. Our focus is the TOP-15 exchanges. You are all aware that the terms of cooperation don't allow us to disclose any information before listing. However, today we can clearly say that in March B2BX will be listed on one of the top exchanges!

In March, there will be a series of announcements including exchanges and products where everyone can start using a token in the eco system!

At the moment B2Broker is preparing to launch a new crypto-broker client. In partnership with us, this client decided not only to accept B2B coins as a means of payment to make a deposit, but also to nominate a deposit on the platform in B2BX coins, where it will be possible to trade 27 currency pairs with a 1: 3 leverage. This means that it will be possible to deposit the B2BX coins to the platform and buy, for example, BTC / USD or B2B / USD and, as the coin grows, earn twice - both on the growth of the trading instrument, and on the rise in the price of the coin where the deposit is nominated . The crypto-broker will be launched on the MT5 platform. You can choose from 6 cryptocurrencies to deposit, 27 trading pairs and replenish, withdraw and exchange using multiple cryptocurrencies. The launch of the crypto broker is scheduled for March 19.


Comments about wash-trading are unnecessary. As we do not do this!

As for B2Broker products:
B2BinPay - gateway for receiving payments in cryptocurrency. The site is working, and we are accepting applications for connection.
B2BX.exchange - exchange-aggregator, provider of cryptocurrency liquidity. The site has reached the final stage of development. And we will soon announce the opening of the registration.
The B2Bcoin site, will consolidate information about all companies that accept B2BX coins for payment, brokers and all exchanges where you can buy / sell a coin.

The deadline for all of these products is the "Consensus" exhibition, which will be held on 10th May in New York. This is the largest exhibition in the crypto industry. And we are looking forward to presenting our products to the market. We are confident of receiving great interest!

And finally. Since 2014 B2Broker has offered real products that are of interest to the market and which thousands of people use. We have acted as a provider of liquidity since 2015 (technically - since 2014). This year we plan to obtain licenses for maximum reliability to serve large brokers who will be attracted to crypto-currency trading in the future.

Please, stop calling the project a scam. WP is a our plan, we've updated our roadmap. Corrections with time are inevitable. We're sorry, that announced Active Members club later. The team is in any case interested in developing the real product and increasing the cost of the coin, you can see all the updates and our roadmap. We are confident that our products are in demand on the market.
legendary
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Hey. buying a token on exchanges, where to store it? there is no registration for the wallet on the website of the developer
Send it to your external ETH address, its an Ether token buddy.
sr. member
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Hello. Bye.

Hey. buying a token on exchanges, where to store it? there is no registration for the wallet on the website of the developer

Theres always MEW.
newbie
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Hey. buying a token on exchanges, where to store it? there is no registration for the wallet on the website of the developer
newbie
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pirotick made some valueable points and i am waiting for an answer too. But i wouldnt consider this token as scam. They have a working product and they will introduce more roles of the active participant program.



If you check my posts, you will never see me saying they dont have a working product, but to explain why it is a scam... You invest money in ICO or support them by buying tokens on exchange and holding them. In doing so, you are guided by what was officially promised to you in their business plan / whitepaper / yellowpaper or whatever.

In this case, company used the received funds to develop a product / software solution but refuses to follow through on their obligation to investors. Their promise is to add to the value of token, make it more and more desirable.

So when you say they have a working product, I agree but that working product is for their own benefit not investors. If investors dont benefit the fruits of said "working product" that makes it a scam because it is opposite of what they promised in their whitepaper.

Hope I clarified this matter.

Finally, as far as the answers to questions go, you can clearly see they keep quiet on this. There are no answers from their side cause the answers would be worse for them than keeping quiet.
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pirotick made some valueable points and i am waiting for an answer too. But i wouldnt consider this token as scam. They have a working product and they will introduce more roles of the active participant program.

sr. member
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Hello. Bye.

whats the deal with dividends?
newbie
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So you liked my posts that much, you decided to do this:

https://imgur.com/GHng79L

Well, if anything kudos for spending few thousands on buying from actual people rather than your self. Doesnt it feel good to be less selfish? Now keep it up!

P.S. Still waiting for your reply on 3 points above.
newbie
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hahaha, This is not their method, man

I think that 20 000 tokens - too much. In the same time B2BX needs real investors and real active participants, not a lot of profiteer.


99.99% of their 3 million volume looks like this:

https://imgur.com/HxQt7Sg

but we should not believe our eyes cause...what? you said so?
newbie
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I will tell you what is clear from above, you are actually accepting FIAT money as commission payment and then you buy tokens on exchanges from your self to pump up the volume while being very careful not to buy a single token from any other investor.


hahaha, This is not their method, man  Grin


I think that 20 000 tokens - too much. In the same time B2BX needs real investors and real active participants, not a lot of profiteer.
newbie
Activity: 35
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The only reason we have decided to leave just one role for starters is that so we could test all the procedures ( kyc, task completion, rewarding) and make the scaling up process as smooth as possible.  If there was any miscommunication or misunderstanding, we apologize for that. It is not our intention to exclude anyone who wants to be a part of this club. As it was stated, there will be lots of roles, for our users, but only after testing period. Also you can see all the updates and all the publications about us in our official social media. So you can’t say that this project is a scam, it’s a longterm project and all the roles will be available later


You want to pick which issues you answer and then overall conclusion should be positive? It doesnt work that way. My post above was to warn people of your project as it is clearly setup to benefit B2B company only and not investors, but since you want to cherry pick what you answer, I will consider that as an invitation to elaborate without giving you an option to skip issue so I will make them into points with quotes from "whitepaper" and "tokenomy" https://www.b2bx.pro/ :

- "Starting from January 2018 the payment of commissions by all participants - members of the B2BX ecosystem will be accepted exclusively in B2BX Tokens." Care to explain how is it, that you have 3 million in trade volume of token (daily), but not 1 bit of price increase? Each time, large amounts of tokens are sold / bought in an instant, always around 100 sats below lowest offering price?
I will tell you what is clear from above, you are actually accepting FIAT money as commission payment and then you buy tokens on exchanges from your self to pump up the volume while being very careful not to buy a single token from any other investor.
I would be more than happy you prove me wrong, but what I stated are cold hard FACTS that anyone can check by visiting any exchange this token is listed on OOOOOOOR check out this snapshot from today, taken on TIDEX:

https://imgur.com/HxQt7Sg

This is so sad...its ALMOST funny. You lowered your buy / sell bot to go 44 sats under that guy who is selling 1000+ tokens so you dont have to buy his? Truly petty on your part.

- Nowhere in tokenomy did you say that 20% of commission to be paid to "active participants" will be voluntary on your side. Nowhere did you mention that even if you did register a person as
active participant it is purely voluntary on your side to actually give them any tasks, therefor they are omitted from any payments.
Let me elaborate on this big issue. This had a purpose of disabling the B2B to continue doing what I stated in first point, meaning, B2B would be holding less and less tokens over time, hence forcing increase of the price.
What they did is strike this 20% as voluntary in order to continue purchasing same tokens from them selves over and over again resulting in extremely low volume other than you buying from your self!

- Tokenomy was supposed to start in December ("Admission of applications for membership in the Active Participants Club will begin in December 2017" https://www.b2bx.pro/docs/b2bx_tokenomy-en.pdf ) it didnt . People held on to tokens because of it. Now, in March, we learn that only 126 investors (feel free to check on explorer) who hold over 20 000 tokens (instead of over 1000 token holders) will be eligible for Tokenomy.

Should you decide to answer, do answer point by point and not only what suits you, while taking it out of context.

Now you have a choice... either be quiet and assume most people are that naive to purchase more of your tokens or answer all points like I did... with proof.

One last thing:

Meaning of a word SCAM is: "fraudulent scheme".In your whitepaper you have stated 6 points why the value of the tokens will rise. You have not fulfilled ANY of them to this date. This constitutes a clear definition of SCAM.

Waiting for your reply.

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I have been into this coin for some time now. It never went much up or down but I held it because of "tokenomy" and all it entails (check whitepaper). Just few hours a go, we received official confirmation that, unlike what they promised in whitepaper, only people eligible for active participants (share 20% of commission income) will be those with over 20 000 tokens, plus even them may or may not be given a status of active participant or if they are active participant, they might not get any tasks which then translates into no % sharing.

20% of commission was meant to ensure there is a buy pressure hence price would go up. What they did now is erase those 20% share of commission and continue to not force brokers who use their services to buy tokens off of exchanges. Instead, they are artificially pumping the volume and always placing both buy and sell orders around 100 sats under the lowest asking bid so they dont buy from regular token holders.

You can see the proof for your self, volume has been 1 - 3 million in last month with no effect on price whatsoever.

Here is a proof of conversation in telegram channel with one of the admins:



After all is said, its just another scam in world of crypto.


The only reason we have decided to leave just one role for starters is that so we could test all the procedures ( kyc, task completion, rewarding) and make the scaling up process as smooth as possible.  If there was any miscommunication or misunderstanding, we apologize for that. It is not our intention to exclude anyone who wants to be a part of this club. As it was stated, there will be lots of roles, for our users, but only after testing period. Also you can see all the updates and all the publications about us in our official social media. So you can’t say that this project is a scam, it’s a longterm project and all the roles will be available later
newbie
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I have been into this coin for some time now. It never went much up or down but I held it because of "tokenomy" and all it entails (check whitepaper). Just few hours a go, we received official confirmation that, unlike what they promised in whitepaper, only people eligible for active participants (share 20% of commission income) will be those with over 20 000 tokens, plus even them may or may not be given a status of active participant or if they are active participant, they might not get any tasks which then translates into no % sharing.

20% of commission was meant to ensure there is a buy pressure hence price would go up. What they did now is erase those 20% share of commission and continue to not force brokers who use their services to buy tokens off of exchanges. Instead, they are artificially pumping the volume and always placing both buy and sell orders around 100 sats under the lowest asking bid so they dont buy from regular token holders.

You can see the proof for your self, volume has been 1 - 3 million in last month with no effect on price whatsoever.

Here is a proof of conversation in telegram channel with one of the admins:

https://imgur.com/G0N8BXf

After all is said, its just another scam in world of crypto.
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B2Broker has rolled out the latest upgrade of Trader’s Room. The freshly unveiled Trader’s Room version 2.0 builds off the success of its first version in 2015, and will look to usher in a wide range of benefits for clients, helping streamline its ready-made broker website module for brokers.
That's how we solve the problem of quickly launching a brokerage business!

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why this so slow token!? B2B is sent 2018-02-23 0:52:57 PM 37.95117406 my txid aren't visible))) now, it is a crap lol!!! Huh           forgive guys for my English! Smiley

Me too.. i withdraw from coinexchange to yobit and status is complete. But its more than 24 hours not coming yet and now tx id disappear.. anybody can explain this?


It’s the problems on the exchange side, try to contact them
newbie
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why this so slow token!? B2B is sent 2018-02-23 0:52:57 PM 37.95117406 my txid aren't visible))) now, it is a crap lol!!! Huh           forgive guys for my English! Smiley

Me too.. i withdraw from coinexchange to yobit and status is complete. But its more than 24 hours not coming yet and now tx id disappear.. anybody can explain this?
        IT SEEMS TO ME THAT IT IS THE TOKEN, SWINDLE!!! Roll Eyes
newbie
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why this so slow token!? B2B is sent 2018-02-23 0:52:57 PM 37.95117406 my txid aren't visible))) now, it is a crap lol!!! Huh           forgive guys for my English! Smiley

Me too.. i withdraw from coinexchange to yobit and status is complete. But its more than 24 hours not coming yet and now tx id disappear.. anybody can explain this?
newbie
Activity: 49
Merit: 0
why this so slow token!? B2B is sent 2018-02-23 0:52:57 PM 37.95117406 my txid aren't visible))) now, it is a crap lol!!! Huh           forgive guys for my English! Smiley
legendary
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The CryptoCoin.News wrote about our simple online gateway for businesses to provide their customers with cryptocurrency payment options.

Thanks for the update.
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The CryptoCoin.News wrote about our simple online gateway for businesses to provide their customers with cryptocurrency payment options.
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