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November 28, 2023, 07:18:30 PM
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I don't like this one but you can also use bitcoin on other blockchain, I think bsc has one of the biggest liquidity of bitcoin. You can simply receive bitcoin token in large quantities and when you are done, send them to an exchange and then withdraw real bitcoin quick. Note that the bitcoin on other chain are not be hold, once you are done having them, send them to exchange where you can withdraw real bitcoin to your personal wallet address.

The suggestion no bad as e go help make confirmation faster since some blockchain get a very fast confirmation speed pass Bitcoin blockchain but why I no go advice make we use Bitcoin on other blockchain na say, you no dey promote the use of Bitcoin well to begin with and you dey exposed yourself and customers to the volatility of Altcoins as those Bitcoin wey dey those other Blockchain are basically altcoins. Scammers fit send you a different Bitcoin wey no dey the main smart contract of the real pegged Bitcoin and if you no dey very observant dem go scam you. Scammers will create multiple pegged Bitcoin that are fake and newbies wey no sabi wetin dey sup go fall victim.

Wow, boss thanks for this yan wey just yan so, if to say you no talk, I for no know say dem go fit run bitcoin for other block chain sef, and even the dangers wey dey associated for this kind of system. Anyway sha, even though say we no try am because of the risk, e still good make we get this kind of knowledge.
For the other part wey you dey talk about using other crypto for transaction due to times like this when mempool dey congested. That na very good idea, but me nor too like altcoins but I fit reason that of the stable coin wey you recommend, na the only coin wey be say I dey see say I like because of em adoption and fast transaction rate.
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For business things they happen, no be very time person go they see gain from their business and some times too hard time to they for market either base on high cost for goods or means to get goods or means to make payment and when any of that one happen, the business owner they always they left with other means way them fit carry survive.

Nah so eh suppose be for business them way they accept bitcoin as payment option for their shop, now way the price and delay for transaction don be so, the only thing way they their now nah for person to change that payment method, even buyer self no go wan risk am to send the payment becuz both u and the buyer go wait tire to see the transaction confirm.

If you be person way still wan they save for bitcoin and you want make your business get bitcoin reserve problem also no they their, the thing way you need do nah to accept other crypto way they convince for you then when eh reach you carry your hand convert am to bitcoin eh go better that way, or better still go back to they use only our local currency for business for the main time, cuz fee cost pass goods this period.
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I don't like this one but you can also use bitcoin on other blockchain, I think bsc has one of the biggest liquidity of bitcoin. You can simply receive bitcoin token in large quantities and when you are done, send them to an exchange and then withdraw real bitcoin quick. Note that the bitcoin on other chain are not be hold, once you are done having them, send them to exchange where you can withdraw real bitcoin to your personal wallet address.

The suggestion no bad as e go help make confirmation faster since some blockchain get a very fast confirmation speed pass Bitcoin blockchain but why I no go advice make we use Bitcoin on other blockchain na say, you no dey promote the use of Bitcoin well to begin with and you dey exposed yourself and customers to the volatility of Altcoins as those Bitcoin wey dey those other Blockchain are basically altcoins. Scammers fit send you a different Bitcoin wey no dey the main smart contract of the real pegged Bitcoin and if you no dey very observant dem go scam you. Scammers will create multiple pegged Bitcoin that are fake and newbies wey no sabi wetin dey sup go fall victim.

But if you are scared that the Naira will lose it's value before the the high transaction cost for bitcoin network go reduce, I go come suggest you use the same amount you sell out and convert it to USD or USDT. By doing this you won't run any loss, and you can easily use the usd or usdt and buy bitcoin when the high cost is reduced. As a business man don't ever lose a customer because of one payment platform is experiencing little problem.

As you dey accept Bitcoin, you no go only accept Bitcoin na if you be wise business man. Altcoins are a part of the industry anyhow we like am or not so using some other altcoins when Bitcoin dey experience some downside no bad. You fit also accept stablecoin, usdt is one of the most traded stablecoin and you fit decide to accept am as the transaction fee no too cost and you fit get quick liquidity when you wan sell. Immediately Bitcoin network returns to normal, you fit begin to accept Bitcoin back. Just as you talk, e no wise to lose customers irrespective of the reasons as dat person fit discourage potential customers from patronizing you and na so more go dey go another place go buy something. Always put your customers need first so make dem comfortable at all times.
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Op your concern is well noted, but make I tell you as a business you supposed alternative plans and strategies on how to transact your business with your customers. Because you whatever that is associated is prone to human errors but that doesn't mean that life will stop. Life has to go on. In the past we only had one alternative of carrying out business transactions which was the fiat system. Bitcoin came in and gave alternative means to the fiat system. So when there is a problem in the one one side the other option can be utilized. Nobody likes where he/she will spend high amount of money when there is another alternative where you will spend less at the moment. For example for our country here, watin Opay use attract many customers na zero or low cost of transaction for customers. I will advise you tell you clients to pay you the equivalent in local currency. But if you are scared that the Naira will lose it's value before the the high transaction cost for bitcoin network go reduce, I go come suggest you use the same amount you sell out and convert it to USD or USDT. By doing this you won't run any loss, and you can easily use the usd or usdt and buy bitcoin when the high cost is reduced. As a business man don't ever lose a customer because of one payment platform is experiencing little problem.
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So in short to accept bitcoin for businesses now no de profitable at all, because seller and buyer no go wan bear the cost of the high fees.

E no dey profitable in general when the transaction fees high like this but you no only accept Bitcoin as a currency because of its profitablity, you accept am because of the other features wey e get like decentralized nature, fastness. In this times na when e good to promote some scalable solution like lightening network wey developers been dun introduced for Bitcoin. You fit dey use am dey receive Bitcoin with a very small fees while the congestion problem go dey sort himself.

No system dey 100% perfect, consider wetin dey happen now as wetin dey sup with banks dey get  network issue dey full everywhere wey your transaction no go fit dey work or e dey reversed anyhow. Wetin you go just do in times like dis na to just go back to dey use Naira until everything stabilize that's if you no wan use the lightening network solutions as no be everybody dey like am as e dey complicated somehow.

Make this congestion no discourage you to no accept Bitcoin, me I believe say a perfect solution will be implemented soon as e good make this congestion dey happen make the developers know say dem get a very big challenge wey dem need address before Bitcoin get more global acceptance make this kind thing no happen when Bitcoin dun go more global.

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So in short to accept bitcoin for businesses now no de profitable at all, because seller and buyer no go wan bear the cost of the high fees.

So how una reason di matter, na for di businesses to suspend to de collect bitcoin for now, till di congestion clear? For business owners to bear di fees alone, or push am to dem customers? Have in mind say customers fit to say dem no go pay am and di seller go lose di sales wey im for make profit ontop.

It's very bad to deal with btc in business now if you are not conducting a large transaction where you can make the fee negligible but if you like using exchanges and you prefer to have your payment in bitcoin, you can use an exchange to receive your payment through internal transactions. This transaction usually don't require any fees except when you want to withdraw through on chain transaction, so you can basically use an exchanges to transact and when you are done, kindly take your coins off the exchange.

I don't like this one but you can also use bitcoin on other blockchain, I think bsc has one of the biggest liquidity of bitcoin. You can simply receive bitcoin token in large quantities and when you are done, send them to an exchange and then withdraw real bitcoin quick. Note that the bitcoin on other chain are not be hold, once you are done having them, send them to exchange where you can withdraw real bitcoin to your personal wallet address.
don't like this one but you can also use bitcoin on other blockchain, I think bsc has one of the biggest liquantities and when you are done, send them to an exchange and then withdraw real bitcoin quick. Note that the bitcoin on other chain are not be hold, once you are done having them, send them to exchange where you can withdraw real bitcoin to your personal wallet address.
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All dis ones wey you don mention so na good alternatives to avoid di high transaction fees, and e good to note dem in case di need arise. But I believe say all dis alternative methods na long process for buying and selling, wey need quick service. In fact, unless di business na mandatory to de collect bitcoin, otherwise na to jeje de collect good old traditional fiat, until di transaction fees come back to normal.

Frankly bitcoin still get a long way to go, in terms of using am to pay for small transactions, fiat transfer de faster and cheaper
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The fact that bitcoin is a modern technology and everyone wants to be part of it, but sometimes person suppose reason well before he add bitcoin for he market, cause one thing with customers they're very selective, once you start add money for your market because of bitcoin transaction fee, customers go leave that market and that market no go sell again. For me anything associated with business make that person never involve bitcoin, haven't seen any Nigerian marketer wey dey accept bitcoin rather na fiat, but some modern organization dey accept bitcoin but that one na their choice, if the person see say no profit that person will accept fiat for a while
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So in short to accept bitcoin for businesses now no de profitable at all, because seller and buyer no go wan bear the cost of the high fees.

So how una reason di matter, na for di businesses to suspend to de collect bitcoin for now, till di congestion clear? For business owners to bear di fees alone, or push am to dem customers? Have in mind say customers fit to say dem no go pay am and di seller go lose di sales wey im for make profit ontop.

It's very bad to deal with btc in business now if you are not conducting a large transaction where you can make the fee negligible but if you like using exchanges and you prefer to have your payment in bitcoin, you can use an exchange to receive your payment through internal transactions. This transaction usually don't require any fees except when you want to withdraw through on chain transaction, so you can basically use an exchanges to transact and when you are done, kindly take your coins off the exchange.

I don't like this one but you can also use bitcoin on other blockchain, I think bsc has one of the biggest liquidity of bitcoin. You can simply receive bitcoin token in large quantities and when you are done, send them to an exchange and then withdraw real bitcoin quick. Note that the bitcoin on other chain are not be hold, once you are done having them, send them to exchange where you can withdraw real bitcoin to your personal wallet address.
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This Bitcoin high transaction fee no be wey thing go make people wey dey accept Bitcoin as payment for their business not to carry on with their business because na "Naira" we dey use as a medium of exchange for Naija. Bitcoin na alternative payment wey dey on ground in case we dey find am difficult to access Naira to use pay for our goods and services. For instance, just like wey thing happened when our government redesigned Naira, to see money withdrawn for banks or pos na war, even though you see for pos the withdrawal fee dey close to the money wey you want to withdraw. During that period people started accepting Bitcoin as a means of payment for their business, to make it easier for them and their customers. So, during this period wey Bitcoin transaction fee dey very high like this, make people wey dey accept Bitcoin for their business make them still put the option for pending until the transaction fee dey normal and star accepting Naira as payment because na Naira wey dey use dey buy something for Naija.
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I follow for people wey de advocate for businesses to de collect bitcoin, as payment. I even de encourage my customers dem to de open bitcoin wallet so dem go fit to de do decentralized crypto transactions. I believe say different business people for all over the world go de do di same thing, to grow di adoption of bitcoin, for payment transaction matters.

But as e be now di matter don fall hand, based on say all di preaching for customers to pay with bitcoin, don partially cast for now. Dis congestion of di mempool, wey come make transaction fees to come high like iroko tree so, na big minus for businesses wey de accept bitcoin, as payment. Na from which person account wey dem wan minus di high fees? Na from seller or buyer money? Imaging say you sale market of $66, and you need to pay transaction fee of $14,  dat na approximately 25% of the total money wey you wan take pay di high fee. If you wan use lightening network, di customer wallet need to enable am too, before una go de reason di technicalities, before di transaction proper.

So in short to accept bitcoin for businesses now no de profitable at all, because seller and buyer no go wan bear the cost of the high fees.

So how una reason di matter, na for di businesses to suspend to de collect bitcoin for now, till di congestion clear? For business owners to bear di fees alone, or push am to dem customers? Have in mind say customers fit to say dem no go pay am and di seller go lose di sales wey im for make profit ontop.
wetin you need understand be say this one na something when no go de for ever. You remember the time when bank charges been de very high to the extent when e almost be like say you go use 20k withdraw 40k. E been de difficult for most persons but with time everybody begin de used to am and businesses still been de almost go on as usual but now when the whole matter done die down people no continue with there normal business? Changes must always come in any thing you are doing but na to just know say e no go de forever na him be the koko.

On your part, wetin you go do na to educate them and feed them with the right orientation. Them fit just chill for the moment but ones everything normal, you go put them on make de begin accept am for there business. Every business person wants to make profit so it's very understandable if they withdraw at the moment due to the increased transaction fees.
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We don tok dis matter for somewhere before and weti you talk na correct one. Me na from di first time when I encountered di congestion in this year, nai I come understand and noticed say bitcoin is not meant for marketers but for personal investment because as you said the transaction fee a buyer can not bear it to pay that kind of big money. Or the only business people wey go fit accept bitcoin and pay for di big transaction fee na the big companies and big bitcoin holders. At first me I think say the tx fee e don go down unknown to me say na day time nai I'm dey start dey go up.

And di lighting network sef no be everybodi go sabi use am. Me I no know how to use that thing.
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You might say you have not seen a physical business that has to do with Bitcoin as a means for payment. But there are lots of digital products that uses Bitcoin as a means in funding, trading, payment etc. in Nigeria.
I have only seen just very few of them. Like I meant, the common means of payment in Nigeria is naira and not bitcoin. The time that I have used bitcoin for payment online, they are for international purchases.

I have purchased some football kits (Jersey and thug from an online store which i paid in Bitcoin). But currently I can't do that because of the congestion so perhaps if there are many customers in Nigeria it will surely affect their business.
Their businesses are not affected. Or are they no accepting naira? Definitely they are accepting naira which is the legal tender.
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Op wattin you talk no be lie oo, this matter na another problem wey we get like this for this bitcoin network and na very bad market for business men and women wey dey accept bitcoin, due to this current mempol congestion, if you no use high fee your transaction fit just hang for air for like 3 day and nothing don happen, so na very bad time for person wey dey accept bitcoin for transaction be this. I just dey imaging how this issue don cause so many business to collapse, most of our young boy them, dem dey use exchange of bitcoin and other crypto currencies take dey get small small money, that is them dey function as vendors. So now wey this matter don be like this how dem wan take dey do the work dey get their money.

No be lie, apart from business people wey di high transaction fees affect dem acceptance of bitcoin, odas wey de use am do P2p business of crypto to fiat, weda privately or inside exchanges, e affect dem too, because most people go look for alternative means of getting fiat instead of selling dia bitcoin. So anyhow wey you see am, e no favor anybody wey wan sale bitcoin for now, until di mempool decongest.

Di bright side to dis high transaction fees be say e go encourage or mandate some people to continue to de hold dem bitcoin, instead of to sale am. Because as we de hold am, na so e de increase, secondly as we de enter bull run, e no de too advisable to sale now, except di person need money urgently.
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Op wattin you talk no be lie oo, this matter na another problem wey we get like this for this bitcoin network and na very bad market for business men and women wey dey accept bitcoin, due to this current mempol congestion, if you no use high fee your transaction fit just hang for air for like 3 day and nothing don happen, so na very bad time for person wey dey accept bitcoin for transaction be this. I just dey imaging how this issue don cause so many business to collapse, most of our young boy them, dem dey use exchange of bitcoin and other crypto currencies take dey get small small money, that is them dey function as vendors. So now wey this matter don be like this how dem wan take dey do the work dey get their money.
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So how una reason di matter, na for di businesses to suspend to de collect bitcoin for now, till di congestion clear? For business owners to bear di fees alone, or push am to dem customers? Have in mind say customers fit to say dem no go pay am and di seller go lose di sales wey im for make profit ontop.

The mempool congestion affect many businesses as e cause delay in transaction. Some people wey set minimal fee because them no wan pay the high transaction fee, the network issue leave them frustrated because their transactions dey take longer hrs or days to go through. But if you get lightning channel you no go really feel am because you fit use am dey send and receive Bitcoin. This period, some people don move their Bitcoin from the blockchain to LN and dey use am dey run their businesses. So like this, LN na another better alternative with cheaper fees wey you fit use for your business.
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Scalability has always been one matter way be say, e dey very unsettling with Bitcoin users but, that no dey enough go stop the project from being a success, na something way dey day effective tor a time and then, yiu go see the shift when all the rush stop or  subside.

Bitcoin remains payment media amongst others when running a business. E works based on options ad prefere. Anyone way favour the customer na watin you go expert am to work with based on the means you made available.
Even with the higher situation, e fit till dey preferable to some but, that dey dependent on the amount involved.

More over, we dey preach Bitcoin but, in times like this, you still get alternatives to archiving your Bitcoin goals but, it comes at a risk of using centralized platforms like exchanges.
You git still receive pay in altcoin (stablecoin) and swap for Bitcoin but, all go still run on an exchange and that be the risk. If you wan collect am, you go still pay fee but, e give you the opportunity to accumulate and run all your transactions as one.
Still, you go dey on risk to allow your coin dey on CEX shah.
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So how una reason di matter, na for di businesses to suspend to de collect bitcoin for now, till di congestion clear? For business owners to bear di fees alone, or push am to dem customers? Have in mind say customers fit to say dem no go pay am and di seller go lose di sales wey im for make profit ontop.
The common means of payment is the use of fiat, just like the use of naira for paying for goods and services in Nigeria. I hardly see any business that is accepting bitcoin in Nigeria and I do not think this should be a problem. You can not do what will affect your business, you can still include bitcoin but let customers pay the fee. I am expecting no one to use bitcoin for now for paying for goods and services. Naira is better and which is what that is used.
You might say you have not seen a physical business that has to do with Bitcoin as a means for payment. But there are lots of digital products that uses Bitcoin as a means in funding, trading, payment etc. in Nigeria. I have purchased some football kits (Jersey and thug from an online store which i paid in Bitcoin). But currently I can't do that because of the congestion so perhaps if there are many customers in Nigeria it will surely affect their business.
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I follow for people wey de advocate for businesses to de collect bitcoin, as payment. I even de encourage my customers dem to de open bitcoin wallet so dem go fit to de do decentralized crypto transactions. I believe say different business people for all over the world go de do di same thing, to grow di adoption of bitcoin, for payment transaction matters.
Me too carry this matter for head because I dey reason am say if plenty businesses begin dey accept Bitcoin, our government go put eye and that one go make Bitcoin to become a legal tender here... this na my main target.

But as e be now di matter don fall hand, based on say all di preaching for customers to pay with bitcoin, don partially cast for now. Dis congestion of di mempool, wey come make transaction fees to come high like iroko tree so, na big minus for businesses wey de accept bitcoin, as payment. Na from which person account wey dem wan minus di high fees? Na from seller or buyer money? Imaging say you sale market of $66, and you need to pay transaction fee of $14,  dat na approximately 25% of the total money wey you wan take pay di high fee. If you wan use lightening network, di customer wallet need to enable am too, before una go de reason di technicalities, before di transaction proper.
The fees really cast business of people no be small. Everywhere just quiet for my side as boys wey been dey accept Bitcoin don dey confused. How fees go pass the price of wetin you wan buy? E no make sense na. I just hope say this issue go dey resolved very soon because as e be like this, people done dey change to other ways to take pay for their business.

Assuming say we get any way to take teach the lightning network,  I feel say this one for help.
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So how una reason di matter, na for di businesses to suspend to de collect bitcoin for now, till di congestion clear? For business owners to bear di fees alone, or push am to dem customers? Have in mind say customers fit to say dem no go pay am and di seller go lose di sales wey im for make profit ontop.
The common means of payment is the use of fiat, just like the use of naira for paying for goods and services in Nigeria. I hardly see any business that is accepting bitcoin in Nigeria and I do not think this should be a problem. You can not do what will affect your business, you can still include bitcoin but let customers pay the fee. I am expecting no one to use bitcoin for now for paying for goods and services. Naira is better and which is what that is used.

I no fit dispute or argue di fact say na our local fiat currency wey be naira, na im every business de collect as payment, na our legal tender so we must collect am. Bitcoin na alternative means of payment and na reference I take am make to say businesses wey de accept am de for bad market for di collection now, based on say di transaction fees don skyrocket.
No be only for Nigeria, but everywhere for di world
wey businesses de accept bitcoin, dat one no mean say dem no go fit collect di local currency of dem country, just dat business transactions with bitcoin go reduce drastically, based on di high fees matter.

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So how una reason di matter, na for di businesses to suspend to de collect bitcoin for now, till di congestion clear? For business owners to bear di fees alone, or push am to dem customers? Have in mind say customers fit to say dem no go pay am and di seller go lose di sales wey im for make profit ontop.
The common means of payment is the use of fiat, just like the use of naira for paying for goods and services in Nigeria. I hardly see any business that is accepting bitcoin in Nigeria and I do not think this should be a problem. You can not do what will affect your business, you can still include bitcoin but let customers pay the fee. I am expecting no one to use bitcoin for now for paying for goods and services. Naira is better and which is what that is used.
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