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maybe it is better for us all to expect the unexpected,lets use what OP says in positive ways.

like for example: lets believe the value after halving will DOWN most specially those willing to keep holding for longer time.

so if the situation comes to be increasing then we will celebrate more because we are not expecting the hype right?

sometimes Negative things can be use for positive if we are only ready to accept tomorrow.

Quote from: joinfree on February 26, 2020, 08:20:40 AM

I don't agree with this analysis made by this crypto enthusiast. The price of bitcoin would definitely increase once the halving is approaching. This has been the norm ever since bitcoin was launched.

but things can change right?the truth is nothing is really certain in investing.but we will be there soon .

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I don't agree with this analysis made by this crypto enthusiast. The price of bitcoin would definitely increase once the halving is approaching. This has been the norm ever since bitcoin was launched. The scarcity of bitcoin always make it a good asset to invest in on a long term base. Don't be worried with the recent reduction in the price of bitcoin this clearly shows how volatile bitcoin is.

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Quote from: carlisle1 on February 26, 2020, 07:44:19 AM

i respect all your points OP because we are all free to give our opinion and beliefs specially if we think that we have proofs about what we are saying.
but i think it is frustrating to give the most opposite side for expectorant since this is Bitcointalk.org forum and most of people here are holding or buying bitcoin.

all of the halving season brings profit to many while your claim is the other side,but lets see what will happen soon because there are only few months left for us to witness the outcome of Bitcoin Halving.

That's right this means that you are already hundred percent against about the speculations of many that the bitcoin will increase after the bitcoin halving we are really all welcome to state our problems and opinions specially are beliefs and speculations especially when we have enough evidence or article that you have stated.

please let us just wait what would be happen on the bitcoin price or value after the bitcoin halving.

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i respect all your points OP because we are all free to give our opinion and beliefs specially if we think that we have proofs about what we are saying.
but i think it is frustrating to give the most opposite side for expectorant since this is Bitcointalk.org forum and most of people here are holding or buying bitcoin.

all of the halving season brings profit to many while your claim is the other side,but lets see what will happen soon because there are only few months left for us to witness the outcome of Bitcoin Halving.

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I believe still in bitcoin because I know how it works even they have many problems that happens , bitcoin community is still there maybe right now some bitcoin user/investors are buying bitcoin and I think the reason why is because other people are waiting for the right time for them to put a risk in bitcoin . Putting risk or investing in bitcoin have good return and this halving I still believe bitcoin will up .

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Quote from: bitbunnny on February 26, 2020, 05:30:34 AM

There is also possibility that price of Bitcoin goes down after halving. Despite the big expectations and many predictions of huge price rise it's not impossible that just the opposite happens.
But the fact that criminals are holding big amount of Bitcoins, that some have mentioned here, isn't something that would significantly influence the price. Besides that is not the new information.

The possibilities to whichever directions the market will go after the halving is still questionable and still in the hands of every holders, though influenced by those people who illegally get their assets as they can easily do things in their own ways. What we can do now is to project our own destinations while continuing to this industry.
Take your chances to buy and hold since this industry will make more progress if not this year but expect in the next following it will happen.

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Quote from: Khaos77 on February 25, 2020, 10:49:34 PM

So what are you going to do, when the price of Bitcoin verses fiat does not go up for the halving.

Many here act like it is an Guarantee, it is not.

Government are reselling criminal bitcoins,
Hackers are reselling the stolen bitcoin from Exchanges and the Rich,
Flooding the markets, and are going to keep doing it over and over.

Altcoin communities are not buying bitcoin to prop up their altcoins any more.
Majority of Altcoins will be dead in less than 2 years.

Even Jihan Wu warns not to expect much.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/billybambrough/2019/10/14/bitmain-ceo-jihan-wu-made-an-uncertain-2020-bitcoin-warning/#7cc492911ecc

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Now, the chief executive of China-based bitcoin mining giant Bitmain, Jihan Wu, has warned the next bitcoin block reward halving may not spark a bitcoin price bull run, as many hope.

Bitcoin can no longer make you rich if you started poor.
The Poor can't buy enough to get rich, as the 1000X and 100X Gains are Over,
so unless the amount you have only needs say 2X or 3X to make you a millionaire, (even that is not guarantee)
otherwise you are screwed if you think it will make you rich. Tongue

So are you going to keep drinking the BTC will make me Rich Kool-aid.
Or are you going to get a Clue and realized to get rich requires you find something other than Bitcoin?

Cool

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Quote from: Khaos77 on February 25, 2020, 10:49:34 PM

So what are you going to do, when the price of Bitcoin verses fiat does not go up for the halving.

Many here act like it is an Guarantee, it is not.

Government are reselling criminal bitcoins,
Hackers are reselling the stolen bitcoin from Exchanges and the Rich,
Flooding the markets, and are going to keep doing it over and over.

Altcoin communities are not buying bitcoin to prop up their altcoins any more.
Majority of Altcoins will be dead in less than 2 years.

Even Jihan Wu warns not to expect much.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/billybambrough/2019/10/14/bitmain-ceo-jihan-wu-made-an-uncertain-2020-bitcoin-warning/#7cc492911ecc

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Now, the chief executive of China-based bitcoin mining giant Bitmain, Jihan Wu, has warned the next bitcoin block reward halving may not spark a bitcoin price bull run, as many hope.

Bitcoin can no longer make you rich if you started poor.
The Poor can't buy enough to get rich, as the 1000X and 100X Gains are Over,
so unless the amount you have only needs say 2X or 3X to make you a millionaire, (even that is not guarantee)
otherwise you are screwed if you think it will make you rich. Tongue

So are you going to keep drinking the BTC will make me Rich Kool-aid.
Or are you going to get a Clue and realized to get rich requires you find something other than Bitcoin?

Cool

This are all predictions so far because crypto market is very unpredictable even if you have solid statements or basis of your claims that bitcoin will not go up after the halving. Reselling the confiscated bitcoin from criminals will likely to create a small movement of bitcoin price but it doesn't mean that the market will go down because of this reason only.

Even if the hackers will likely to sell their loot, it is still not enough to drag down the market especially if the big whales will make sure that they will turn the bear season into bull season. Let's just monitor closely the market and see for ourselves whether your prediction will happen or not.

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There is also possibility that price of Bitcoin goes down after halving. Despite the big expectations and many predictions of huge price rise it's not impossible that just the opposite happens.
But the fact that criminals are holding big amount of Bitcoins, that some have mentioned here, isn't something that would significantly influence the price. Besides that is not the new information.

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Quote from: arcmetal on February 26, 2020, 03:45:47 AM

Quote from: Khaos77 on February 25, 2020, 10:49:34 PM

...

Government are reselling criminal bitcoins,
Hackers are reselling the stolen bitcoin from Exchanges and the Rich,
Flooding the markets, and are going to keep doing it over and over.

...

Once you get a better understanding of bitcoin you'll notice that that comment is unrealistic. One cannot simply "keep doing it over and over" with bitcoin. Bitcoin has a finite sum for its circulation.

The people selling will stop selling when they run out of their bitcoins.

One cannot keep selling them forever since there a finite set of bitcoins... I think I am repeating myself.

Ok, you are confused, I shall explain.

Step 1:
Criminal gets Caught,
Bitcoins get Confiscated.
Government Sells Bitcoins Back to Public for FIAT!
Public Buys Drugs with Bitcoin from Criminals
GOTO STEP 1:

If you can not see this is an endless loop , then you are not paying attention.

Ah yes, I see now.

This happened to maybe one or two bitcoins. There are currently over 18 million bitcoins in circulation, I am not sure that a few bitcoins handled by criminals will have such an effect.

Possibly a more dangerous threat may happen when Mars goes into a retrograde orbit and effects the mining machines in China. Due to extra varying electro-gravitational effects some of those machines may get some of their processing bits flipped, thus causing those machines to not contribute to finding a block, thus allowing machines in Iceland a greater chance to find a block. This temporary imbalance in mining power across the globe may have drastic effects on who is selling more bitcoins, thus lowering or raising the price.

One thing is for sure: the price of bitcoin tomorrow will either go up, go down, or remain the same.

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I think this man is a member of some project that wants to take over the current popularity of Bitcoin. the thing is, whatever you said is nothing to us. from the start we have known the possibilities of the outcome of the incoming BTC halving and most of us think the result of the market today is the beginning of the awaited price increase. instead of telling people about your opinion just focus on how you will get your hands into this trend because sooner or later the price will rise again.

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Try reading the news instead of staring into your own ass all day long. Wink

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Actually I think that anything is possible, the increase or decrease will be based on many factors. And halving will be a factor that will change the value of BTC. But with news and data from the past, i are aiming for BTC to the moon after halving, which can take a while to wait and see the value of BTC really moon. Grin

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Quote from: Khaos77 on February 25, 2020, 10:49:34 PM

...

Government are reselling criminal bitcoins,
Hackers are reselling the stolen bitcoin from Exchanges and the Rich,
Flooding the markets, and are going to keep doing it over and over.

...

Once you get a better understanding of bitcoin you'll notice that that comment is unrealistic. One cannot simply "keep doing it over and over" with bitcoin. Bitcoin has a finite sum for its circulation.

The people selling will stop selling when they run out of their bitcoins.

One cannot keep selling them forever since there a finite set of bitcoins... I think I am repeating myself.

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Quote from: Khaos77 on February 25, 2020, 10:49:34 PM

You have put quite some effort into all that bullsh*t.
Of course, whoever reads only the title or the things you wrote without using their brain to read a tad more, they deserve their fate.
But for most it's just a wasted effort.

BTW, you sound so sure like you'd know the future, at least the lows. Can you tell us when will the new low happen so we buy only then?

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The Bitcoin economy is maturing, and halving has already been factored into the price. Successive halving will make them less and less important in the future. The Corona Virus fake pandemic is being used as a black swan event to correct share prices, and to lose fiat debt. As part of this the price of Bitcoin is being manipulated to prepare for the new banking cryptos. It will stay volatile, and give us some good scalping runs, but the long term prospects have to be very positive - just take care on the journey, as there are a lot of pot holes, hills, and collapsed bridges to negotiate.

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Regardless of what happens after the Halving, if the only reason for buying Bitcoin is that you think the price will go up crazy, most likely you will lose your money.
The nature of the market is extreme volatility, and if you are not prepared to bear the losses, it is best to satisfy 12% that banks offer you.

I support the theory that the price will go down, but the more the price collapses, the more likely it is that we will see crazy highs, "Don't forget that the price is around 3,000 dollars a few months ago."

It is good that we have not heard news like Bitcoin is a bubble or that the price will return to 1 dollar.

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Quote from: Khaos77 on February 25, 2020, 10:49:34 PM

So what are you going to do, when the price of Bitcoin verses fiat does not go up for the halving.

Many here act like it is an Guarantee, it is not.

Government are reselling criminal bitcoins,
Hackers are reselling the stolen bitcoin from Exchanges and the Rich,
Flooding the markets, and are going to keep doing it over and over.

Altcoin communities are not buying bitcoin to prop up their altcoins any more.
Majority of Altcoins will be dead in less than 2 years.

Even Jihan Wu warns not to expect much.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/billybambrough/2019/10/14/bitmain-ceo-jihan-wu-made-an-uncertain-2020-bitcoin-warning/#7cc492911ecc

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Now, the chief executive of China-based bitcoin mining giant Bitmain, Jihan Wu, has warned the next bitcoin block reward halving may not spark a bitcoin price bull run, as many hope.

Bitcoin can no longer make you rich if you started poor.
The Poor can't buy enough to get rich, as the 1000X and 100X Gains are Over,
so unless the amount you have only needs say 2X or 3X to make you a millionaire, (even that is not guarantee)
otherwise you are screwed if you think it will make you rich. Tongue

So are you going to keep drinking the BTC will make me Rich Kool-aid.
Or are you going to get a Clue and realized to get rich requires you find something other than Bitcoin?

Cool

So are you afraid for that speculation? Because you don't need to get panic with that statements since it's already speculations came out from them which has been used before, maybe they have certain agenda for spreading that but I suggest if you are doubting to see things coming in future better monitor the market movement if you have stock balance in your wallet, and for me I'm quite confident that we can see a good pump this 2020 or in year 2021.

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Quote from: Khaos77 on February 25, 2020, 10:49:34 PM

So what are you going to do, when the price of Bitcoin verses fiat does not go up for the halving.

Many here act like it is an Guarantee, it is not.

Government are reselling criminal bitcoins,
Hackers are reselling the stolen bitcoin from Exchanges and the Rich,
Flooding the markets, and are going to keep doing it over and over.

Altcoin communities are not buying bitcoin to prop up their altcoins any more.
Majority of Altcoins will be dead in less than 2 years.

Even Jihan Wu warns not to expect much.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/billybambrough/2019/10/14/bitmain-ceo-jihan-wu-made-an-uncertain-2020-bitcoin-warning/#7cc492911ecc

Quote

Now, the chief executive of China-based bitcoin mining giant Bitmain, Jihan Wu, has warned the next bitcoin block reward halving may not spark a bitcoin price bull run, as many hope.

Bitcoin can no longer make you rich if you started poor.
The Poor can't buy enough to get rich, as the 1000X and 100X Gains are Over,
so unless the amount you have only needs say 2X or 3X to make you a millionaire, (even that is not guarantee)
otherwise you are screwed if you think it will make you rich. Tongue

So are you going to keep drinking the BTC will make me Rich Kool-aid.
Or are you going to get a Clue and realized to get rich requires you find something other than Bitcoin?

Cool

I see your point and I think you are right about it,
There are so many hacking incidents,scam project and many goverment reselling those criminals crypto,
I think that we should expect the price to drop down and yes there would be so many alt-coins that would die but those alt-coins are the worthless crypto.

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This may happen only if this coronavirus madness non stop before halving

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