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newbie
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January 11, 2019, 03:52:35 AM
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Seems like no one defends you and i also have something to say about this

The rule-> "33. Posting plagiarized content is not allowed.[e]"

Plagiarism
"an act or instance of using or closely imitating the language and thoughts of another without authorization and the representation of that author's work as one's own, as by not crediting the original author:"

-> Rule explained "33. This includes both copying parts or the entirety of other users' posts or threads and copying content from external sources (e.g. other websites) and passing it as your own."

So in other words: This would imply to take credit as your own from someone else's work... not actually failing to put "quotes" on your pure intent of informative post or rather forgetting to link the source. To take credit and to make credit, thus to give credit; it can mean a much broader idea then its objective one.

It does not make sense to take an objective idea and transform it into subjective one, commons sense also prevails
For example, i can say "don't drink water, because you die!" Does this make sense? No, of course you don't die... But, i would prove you wrong, subjectively speaking, because it is forming my own concept of what i would say: drinking too much water in some cases can make you die (and now this is a true statement). See the difference? That's why we would need someone to defend us and our rights...

You broke the rules 2 times yourself. You quoted, but you didn't mention the source.

Plagiarism
"an act or instance of using or closely imitating the language and thoughts of another without authorization and the representation of that author's work as one's own, as by not crediting the original author:"
- https://www.dictionary.com/browse/plagiarism

Rule explained "33. This includes both copying parts or the entirety of other users' posts or threads and copying content from external sources (e.g. other websites) and passing it as your own."
- https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.7955645

For this, your account should be banned.

But in the case of the account  "Yury1" we are talking about the memorable expression that he used in the dialogue.
newbie
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The first time I see that for one similar sentence get banned account. Now we have to worry about our thoughts not being the same as someone else?
full member
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You gave an example of 2 sentences. And if someone writes "Satoshi Nakomoto is a famous person because he created bitcoin". Is this plagiarism? As more and more material is written about cryptocurrency, the risk of creating similar offers increases more and more.

It would be possible since there are many articles regarding with the bitcoin or any topics that has been discussed here over and over again. But, it will still make a difference because we construct the sentence and paragraph in a different way. If it was being copied and paste word for word then it could be associated directly to plagiarism. But, if it is not then there could be a chance that an individual will become a plagiarist when his/her post and opinion has will has similarities with other's opinion and how it was being constructed. Yet, it would be the slightest chance that will going to happen. It would be a very rare case.
newbie
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No, it's you missed the previous post

In this case, specify the title and position of Eric Duprat. It's like " General field Marshal of the Prussian lands, subservient to the Austro-Hungarian government". This is title and achievements of a famous person and mention this to plagiarism is irrelevant.
Stop acting dense. Eric Duprat's title is not "General Manager of Mobile at PayPal where he played an instrumental role in establishing PayPal as a player in mobile payments."
Saying something like "Eric Duprat, General Manager of Mobile at PayPal" is fine as it is clearly a title, but the latter part is clear plagiarism.
You don't come up with this marketing BS yourself, you have to copy it from somewhere. The chance of creating such a specific sentence yourself is very low.
You have a very subjective opinion.
Some things we remember exactly after reading and in their subsequent presentation, we can reproduce them with 100% accuracy. This expression is not too long to copy and it is enough to read once to remember for a long time.


That wouldn't be plagiarism because it's very short and not specific. But, if you write something like:
Who is Satoshi Nakamoto? For those new to the cryptocurrency world, Satoshi Nakamoto is the creator of Bitcoin.
It would be plagiarism because you are directly copying posts from another source, without citing it.
For the exchange registration requirement post, you would put it in a quote or link to the source.

You gave an example of 2 sentences. And if someone writes "Satoshi Nakomoto is a famous person because he created bitcoin". Is this plagiarism? As more and more material is written about cryptocurrency, the risk of creating similar offers increases more and more.
legendary
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No, it's you missed the previous post

In this case, specify the title and position of Eric Duprat. It's like " General field Marshal of the Prussian lands, subservient to the Austro-Hungarian government". This is title and achievements of a famous person and mention this to plagiarism is irrelevant.

Stop acting dense. Eric Duprat's title is not "General Manager of Mobile at PayPal where he played an instrumental role in establishing PayPal as a player in mobile payments."
Saying something like "Eric Duprat, General Manager of Mobile at PayPal" is fine as it is clearly a title, but the latter part is clear plagiarism.

You don't come up with this marketing BS yourself, you have to copy it from somewhere. The chance of creating such a specific sentence yourself is very low.

If you write: "Satoshi Nakamoto is the Creator of bitcoin." It will be plagiarism for which it will be necessary to ban account? No, because it's a declaration of common knowledge.

That wouldn't be plagiarism because it's very short and not specific. But, if you write something like:
Who is Satoshi Nakamoto? For those new to the cryptocurrency world, Satoshi Nakamoto is the creator of Bitcoin.

It would be plagiarism because you are directly copying posts from another source, without citing it.
For the exchange registration requirement post, you would put it in a quote or link to the source.

If you don't like the forum's policy on plagiarism, go join a different forum.
newbie
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Very strange that the moderators so lightly to the participants at the forum. As I understand it, no one was able to explain the cause of the ban and the moderator didn't answer.
You are right. The moderator hasn't responded and everyone else can only guess the reason for the ban account, but there is no exact data.
newbie
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Um, did you miss this post?

Copy:
Eric Duprat was the General Manager of Mobile at PayPal where he played an instrumental role in establishing PayPal as a player in mobile payments. Eric Duprat one of the team members Monetha and send tweets about Monetha. And developers UTRUST nobody knows.
Original:
Prior to Verayo, Eric was the General Manager of Mobile at PayPal where he played an instrumental role in establishing PayPal as a player in mobile payments.

No, it's you missed the previous post

In this case, specify the title and position of Eric Duprat. It's like " General field Marshal of the Prussian lands, subservient to the Austro-Hungarian government". This is title and achievements of a famous person and mention this to plagiarism is irrelevant.
legendary
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Very strange that the moderators so lightly to the participants at the forum. As I understand it, no one was able to explain the cause of the ban and the moderator didn't answer.

Um, did you miss this post?

Copy:
Eric Duprat was the General Manager of Mobile at PayPal where he played an instrumental role in establishing PayPal as a player in mobile payments. Eric Duprat one of the team members Monetha and send tweets about Monetha. And developers UTRUST nobody knows.
Original:
Prior to Verayo, Eric was the General Manager of Mobile at PayPal where he played an instrumental role in establishing PayPal as a player in mobile payments.
newbie
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I appeal to the global moderators with a request to specify the reason ban account "Yury1"  https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/yury1-1056566
 Please, respond.
member
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Soon at this forum people will be afraid to write the word "bitcoin" because moderators will consider it plagiarism and will ban for it.  Smiley
newbie
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"Yury1" is an account of my friend
Stop wasting everyone's time, lock the thread, and tell your "friend" to appeal to the e-mail address provided in the ban notice.
You're wrong. This section is just intended to discuss with the moderators contentious issues.
legendary
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"Yury1" is an account of my friend

Stop wasting everyone's time, lock the thread, and tell your "friend" to appeal to the e-mail address provided in the ban notice.
newbie
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Идeт пepeчиcлeниe ycлoвий peгиcтpaции нa биpжe. Кaк зaпoмнилиcь тpeбoвaния, тaк oни пoтoм и зaпиcaны. O кaкoм плaгиapизмe мoжeт идти peчь?

You've copied someone else's text, word for word, without quote marks and link to the source. If you don't understand what plagiarism is, then there is an explanation from the moderators.

33. Posting plagiarized content is not allowed.
~ This includes both copying parts or the entirety of other users' posts or threads and copying content from external sources (e.g. other websites) and passing it as your own.



Besides you're not allowed to posting messages elsewhere on the forum but only in your ban appeal's thread otherwise it would be considered as a ban evasion.


"Yury1" remember that to register we must: ............ There is a transfer of registration conditions. It's not plagiarism. Not confuse.
If you write: " Satoshi Nakamoto is the Creator of bitcoin." It will be plagiarism for which it will be necessary to ban account? No, because it's a declaration of common knowledge. You are incompetent in this matter.

Besides you're not allowed to posting messages elsewhere on the forum but only in your ban appeal's thread otherwise it would be considered as a ban evasion.
Besides, you're wrong again. "Yury1" is an account of my friend and I where I want and I will be there to write. Because of people like you, misunderstandings arise.

I'm waiting for an official response from a moderator.
legendary
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Идeт пepeчиcлeниe ycлoвий peгиcтpaции нa биpжe. Кaк зaпoмнилиcь тpeбoвaния, тaк oни пoтoм и зaпиcaны. O кaкoм плaгиapизмe мoжeт идти peчь?

You've copied someone else's text, word for word, without quote marks and link to the source. If you don't understand what plagiarism is, then there is an explanation from the moderators.

33. Posting plagiarized content is not allowed.
~ This includes both copying parts or the entirety of other users' posts or threads and copying content from external sources (e.g. other websites) and passing it as your own.



Besides you're not allowed to posting messages elsewhere on the forum but only in your ban appeal's thread otherwise it would be considered as a ban evasion.

25. Ban evasion (using or creating accounts while one of your accounts is banned) is not allowed.
~ If you get banned (temporarily or permanently) and create a new account to continue posting / sending PMs, it's considered ban evasion. The only exception is creating a thread in Meta about your ban.
copper member
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Ako Bayot!
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And where is the plagiarism, if there is a link to the source? I don't see that OP is trying to claim the authorship of this material...

Quote from: Wikipedia
Plagiarism is the "wrongful appropriation" and "stealing and publication" of another author's "language, thoughts, ideas, or expressions" and the representation of them as one's own original work.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plagiarism

I very doubt that ban for plagiarism received for this post.
This is the very most common reason why a user gets banned. This is why we need to think many times before we create a post and must acknowledge every resources that has been taking into accounts or claim.I doubt that the OP could recover that account for most of the ban appeals here are users that plagiarize post from other of from articles. Well do hope that OP has learn his lessons in staying here and getting kick out from the forum.

Reading a plagiarized post is really not a good thing and funny. Just imagine to all post here that are copied and plagiarized. Do you thing that it is good to read those posts? I doubt you will just skip around and waiting for another good topic to reply on. The admin here wants to have an active discussion even with this feature by posting and reading.
newbie
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@Pmalek, see the dates carefully. Yury1 was an original poster.

But despite this, most likely that Yury1 has been banned because he has copied text without indicating the sources.


Copy:
Ha китaйcкиx биpжax oбязaтeльнa идeнтификaция пoльзoвaтeля c пpeдocтaвлeниeм дoкyмeнтa: ID - идeнтификaциoнный нoмep кoтopый имeeт кaждый китaeц, вoeнный билeт, пacпopт, вpeмeннoe paзpeшeниe нa въeзд в Китaй для житeлeй Taйвaня, вpeмeннoe paзpeшeниe нa въeзд в Китaй для житeлeй Maкao и Гoнкoнгa. Heкитaйцaм, я тaк пoнимaю, зapeгиcтpиpoвaтьcя нa китaйcкиx биpжax нe пoлyчитcя?
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Пpи peгиcтpaции нa биpжe OKCoin тpeбyeтcя идeнтификaция пoльзoвaтeля c пpeдocтaвлeниeм дoкyмeнтa: ID - идeнтификaциoнный нoмep кoтopый имeeт кaждый китaeц, вoeнный билeт, пacпopт, вpeмeннoe paзpeшeниe нa въeзд в Китaй для житeлeй Taйвaня, вpeмeннoe paзpeшeниe нa въeзд в Китaй для житeлeй Maкao и Гoнкoнгa .

Идeт пepeчиcлeниe ycлoвий peгиcтpaции нa биpжe. Кaк зaпoмнилиcь тpeбoвaния, тaк oни пoтoм и зaпиcaны. O кaкoм плaгиapизмe мoжeт идти peчь? Плaгиapизм - этo кoпиpoвaниe чyжoй мыcли или идeи. A в дaннoм cлyчae пepeчиcляютcя тpeбoвaния.
 This is a listing of the conditions of registration at exchange. As remember the requirements, so they are then recorded. What kind of plagiarism can we talk about? Plagiarism is copying someone else's thoughts or ideas. But in this case, just the requirements are listed.




Copy:
Eric Duprat was the General Manager of Mobile at PayPal where he played an instrumental role in establishing PayPal as a player in mobile payments. Eric Duprat one of the team members Monetha and send tweets about Monetha. And developers UTRUST nobody knows.
Original:
Prior to Verayo, Eric was the General Manager of Mobile at PayPal where he played an instrumental role in establishing PayPal as a player in mobile payments.
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B дaннoм cлyчae yкaзывaeтcя звaниe и дoлжнocть Eric Duprat. Этo кaк "фeльдмapшaл пpyccкиx зeмeль, пoдвлacтныx aвcтpo-вeнгepcкoмy пpaвитeльcтвy". Этo звaниe и зacлyги извecтнoгo чeлoвeкa и yпoминaниe oб этoм к плaгиapизмy нe имeeт никaкoгo oтнoшeния.

In this case, specify the title and position of Eric Duprat. It's like " General field Marshal of the Prussian lands, subservient to the Austro-Hungarian government". This is title and achievements of a famous person and mention this to plagiarism is irrelevant.
legendary
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legendary
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@Pmalek, see the dates carefully. Yury1 was an original poster.

But despite this, most likely that Yury1 has been banned because he has copied text without indicating the sources.
You are right, I completely missed the year, my only focus was on the June-July part, since Yury1's post was from July and the other one from June.
Well in that case that means that the user hafsaumer copy/pasted his reply from either Yury1 or someone else - who knows how many times that sentence has been used until now.

I took a look at hafsaumer's profile and while his activity was 20 back when the post was made he has since then deleted all his posts but according to the modlog he has not been banned yet. He hasn't been active since October 28, 2018 though.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/hafsaumer-2221156       
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I think this post got you banned because it is copy/pasted:

I'm sure you can do without bounty programs. Very many people are interested in your project.
Someone archived it here and the original post was made on June 28, 2018, 10:25:13 PM:
http://archive.is/NG3ot



You either copy/pasted from there or another source.

It is unlikely he was banned for this post. 2017 and 2018 are slightly different years:
Yury1 - July 19, 2017, 08:07:42 AM
hafsaumer - June 28, 2018, 10:25:13 PM

....

Yes, that's plagiarism!
legendary
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@Pmalek, see the dates carefully. Yury1 was an original poster.

But despite this, most likely that Yury1 has been banned because he has copied text without indicating the sources.


Copy:
Ha китaйcкиx биpжax oбязaтeльнa идeнтификaция пoльзoвaтeля c пpeдocтaвлeниeм дoкyмeнтa: ID - идeнтификaциoнный нoмep кoтopый имeeт кaждый китaeц, вoeнный билeт, пacпopт, вpeмeннoe paзpeшeниe нa въeзд в Китaй для житeлeй Taйвaня, вpeмeннoe paзpeшeниe нa въeзд в Китaй для житeлeй Maкao и Гoнкoнгa. Heкитaйцaм, я тaк пoнимaю, зapeгиcтpиpoвaтьcя нa китaйcкиx биpжax нe пoлyчитcя?
Original:
Eric Duprat was the General Manager of Mobile at PayPal where he played an instrumental role in establishing PayPal as a player in mobile payments. Eric Duprat one of the team members Monetha and send tweets about Monetha. And developers UTRUST nobody knows.
Original:
Prior to Verayo, Eric was the General Manager of Mobile at PayPal where he played an instrumental role in establishing PayPal as a player in mobile payments.
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