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Topic: [BAN] BTCChina, OKCoin, FXBTC, BTC38, Huobi (updated: April 4) (Read 5188 times)

sr. member
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http://www.coindesk.com/jeremy-allaire-bitcoin-needs-greater-governance-reach-mass-adoption/
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The future, according to Allaire, will require bitcoin to work with traditional financial institutions so that the technology can reach its full potential.

Explained Allaire:

    “Bitcoin needs greater levels of governance around it. I do not believe this industry will grow without collaboration from governments around the world.”

Still no news for April 7. Waiting...
newbie
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So this is it.  China gone, Mt Gox gone, general public trust gone.  We're going to see 100's again.  Undecided

If this happen, i will sell my house, wife, kids, arms, legs, 1 kidney and i am all in BTC!  Grin

Then how are you going to click on a "Buy" button to buy more BTC online without arms? LOL  Grin Grin Grin

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arms  [ärmz]
    noun
    plural noun arms
    weapons and ammunition; armaments.
Grin
hero member
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He accepted a large investment into his exchange back in mid/late 2013.  This Bitcoin exchange is his whole life, his legacy.  Imagine his situation.  He's trying to act cool in public, but deep down he's absolutely shitting himself.  It's one thing to get cut off from third party processors, but cut off from the banks??  Deep down he knows that without being able to handle deposits, his exchange is useless.  

It's over for Bobby Lee.

+1. He obviously knows what's going on behind the scene but wants to prevent mass panic. Most exchanges will have no choice but to move offshore.


So what will happen to the prices on april 15?  Same? Lower or higher?

How much of the rally to $266 was Chinese money?

How much of the rally to $266 was fake MtGox USD?
legendary
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Shitcoin Minimalist
He accepted a large investment into his exchange back in mid/late 2013.  This Bitcoin exchange is his whole life, his legacy.  Imagine his situation.  He's trying to act cool in public, but deep down he's absolutely shitting himself.  It's one thing to get cut off from third party processors, but cut off from the banks??  Deep down he knows that without being able to handle deposits, his exchange is useless.  

It's over for Bobby Lee.

+1. He obviously knows what's going on behind the scene but wants to prevent mass panic. Most exchanges will have no choice but to move offshore.


So what will happen to the prices on april 15?  Same? Lower or higher?

How much of the rally to $266 was Chinese money?
sr. member
Activity: 406
Merit: 250
He accepted a large investment into his exchange back in mid/late 2013.  This Bitcoin exchange is his whole life, his legacy.  Imagine his situation.  He's trying to act cool in public, but deep down he's absolutely shitting himself.  It's one thing to get cut off from third party processors, but cut off from the banks??  Deep down he knows that without being able to handle deposits, his exchange is useless.  

It's over for Bobby Lee.

+1. He obviously knows what's going on behind the scene but wants to prevent mass panic. Most exchanges will have no choice but to move offshore.


So what will happen to the prices on april 15?  Same? Lower or higher?

Without an efficient way to deposit money into exchanges, most players will quit the game... If BTCChina/Huobi shutdown deposits, you can expect a massive crash. I can't predict the price, but I'd definitely expect lower than $400, probably higher than $266 (good support)

Most people still think the news are FUD, so that's why we're still in the upper $400s. Very good price to open a short position on Bitfinex. ($460. There's nearly no risk)
hero member
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He accepted a large investment into his exchange back in mid/late 2013.  This Bitcoin exchange is his whole life, his legacy.  Imagine his situation.  He's trying to act cool in public, but deep down he's absolutely shitting himself.  It's one thing to get cut off from third party processors, but cut off from the banks??  Deep down he knows that without being able to handle deposits, his exchange is useless.  

It's over for Bobby Lee.

+1. He obviously knows what's going on behind the scene but wants to prevent mass panic. Most exchanges will have no choice but to move offshore.


So what will happen to the prices on april 15?  Same? Lower or higher?

Higher than 8$ lower than 400$
hero member
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He accepted a large investment into his exchange back in mid/late 2013.  This Bitcoin exchange is his whole life, his legacy.  Imagine his situation.  He's trying to act cool in public, but deep down he's absolutely shitting himself.  It's one thing to get cut off from third party processors, but cut off from the banks??  Deep down he knows that without being able to handle deposits, his exchange is useless.  

It's over for Bobby Lee.

+1. He obviously knows what's going on behind the scene but wants to prevent mass panic. Most exchanges will have no choice but to move offshore.


So what will happen to the prices on april 15?  Same? Lower or higher?
sr. member
Activity: 406
Merit: 250
He accepted a large investment into his exchange back in mid/late 2013.  This Bitcoin exchange is his whole life, his legacy.  Imagine his situation.  He's trying to act cool in public, but deep down he's absolutely shitting himself.  It's one thing to get cut off from third party processors, but cut off from the banks??  Deep down he knows that without being able to handle deposits, his exchange is useless.  

It's over for Bobby Lee.

+1. He obviously knows what's going on behind the scene but wants to prevent mass panic. Most exchanges will have no choice but to move offshore.
newbie
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So this is it.  China gone, Mt Gox gone, general public trust gone.  We're going to see 100's again.  Undecided

If this happen, i will sell my house, wife, kids, arms, legs, 1 kidney and i am all in BTC!  Grin

Then how are you going to click on a "Buy" button to buy more BTC online without arms? LOL  Grin Grin Grin
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How, pray tell, are these phantom bag holders going to cash out if all the financial institutions / payment processors have cut links?

There may be some here and there...but it would appear that the plug got pulled before the vast majority could react.

to do list>

take a flight to mainland china
bring all the cash you can
buy all the cheap coins
dump them on stamp
profit

China has some of the tightest capital export/import laws in the world.  Do you honestly think you can just fly into China and pull that off?  A rational person is not even going to run the risk of being thrown into a Chinese hard labor camps for smuggling in contraband capital.

The exchanges can't even accept yaun anymore.  Their payment processors cut that off.

Wrong.  You can still deposit on Huobi, BTC CHina, OKCoin and others with bank card transfer.  Hasn't been disabled as of yet.  This weekend is a holiday in China.  When Monday comes around, I expect shit to hit the fan.
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It's funny how the BTC China announcement was positively spun on r/BitcoinMarkets.  Usually that sub is pretty diligent.  

http://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinMarkets/comments/2267ri/btcchina_statement/

They're acting as if the recent statement provides evidence that Bobby Lee spoke with regulators and they assured him his company's bank accounts would not be touched.  Seems to be anything but the truth.  If you look at the Coindesk article, it's actually a much different story:

http://www.coindesk.com/btc-china-dismisses-pboc-fears-open-letter/

We can see here that Bobby Lee is in the same boat he's always in.  He has no idea what's going on.  Same as when Huobi starting accepting deposits again, and he was standing around with his dick in his hands.  Bobby Lee is the guy with the least information, at all times.  

He accepted a large investment into his exchange back in mid/late 2013.  This Bitcoin exchange is his whole life, his legacy.  Imagine his situation.  He's trying to act cool in public, but deep down he's absolutely shitting himself.  It's one thing to get cut off from third party processors, but cut off from the banks??  Deep down he knows that without being able to handle deposits, his exchange is useless.  

Think about the amount of money that goes through these exchanges.  We're talking millions of USD each day.  How the hell can you be processing that much money without a bank account?  The Chinese exchanges make VERY little profit per dollar that goes through their exchanges.  The competition is so fierce that most exchanges have 0% trading fees, and only collect a fee of 1% during withdrawal.

If you look at the amount of money the average Chinese exchange makes per dollar that is deposited into the site, you really start to get the idea why these exchanges are doomed without banks.  They'll look at creating some Voucher deposit method, but it just won't bring enough volume.  They need to be processing millions a day just to break even.  

It's over for Bobby Lee.
legendary
Activity: 854
Merit: 1000
How, pray tell, are these phantom bag holders going to cash out if all the financial institutions / payment processors have cut links?

There may be some here and there...but it would appear that the plug got pulled before the vast majority could react.

to do list>

take a flight to mainland china
bring all the cash you can
buy all the cheap coins
dump them on stamp
profit

China has some of the tightest capital export/import laws in the world.  Do you honestly think you can just fly into China and pull that off?  A rational person is not even going to run the risk of being thrown into a Chinese hard labor camps for smuggling in contraband capital.

The exchanges can't even accept yaun anymore.  Their payment processors cut that off.
legendary
Activity: 1232
Merit: 1011
How, pray tell, are these phantom bag holders going to cash out if all the financial institutions / payment processors have cut links?

There may be some here and there...but it would appear that the plug got pulled before the vast majority could react.

to do list>

take a flight to mainland china
bring all the cash you can
buy all the cheap coins
dump them on stamp
profit
legendary
Activity: 854
Merit: 1000
How, pray tell, are these phantom bag holders going to cash out if all the financial institutions / payment processors have cut links?

There may be some here and there...but it would appear that the plug got pulled before the vast majority could react.
hero member
Activity: 504
Merit: 500
Moderator
So this is it.  China gone, Mt Gox gone, general public trust gone.  We're going to see 100's again.  Undecided

I hope so!  But in reality... dream on Smiley

Indeed. Even me, with my extremely limited knowledge about the markets, do not find this a logical outcome. Maybe we'll see the low 300's, but that's really it. There seems to be a lot of resistance around 350.

Also: I believe that most of the panic sellers have left already, but the coming days will have to prove that.

$5 Million between $400 - $200 , why won't they pull out.

Because they want all the cheap btc

Because they dont want prices to plummet before they are done selling their remaining btc

Exactly!
sr. member
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So this is it.  China gone, Mt Gox gone, general public trust gone.  We're going to see 100's again.  Undecided

I hope so!  But in reality... dream on Smiley

Indeed. Even me, with my extremely limited knowledge about the markets, do not find this a logical outcome. Maybe we'll see the low 300's, but that's really it. There seems to be a lot of resistance around 350.

Also: I believe that most of the panic sellers have left already, but the coming days will have to prove that.

$5 Million between $400 - $200 , why won't they pull out.

Because they want all the cheap btc

Because they dont want prices to plummet before they are done selling their remaining btc
full member
Activity: 224
Merit: 100
So this is it.  China gone, Mt Gox gone, general public trust gone.  We're going to see 100's again.  Undecided

I hope so!  But in reality... dream on Smiley

Indeed. Even me, with my extremely limited knowledge about the markets, do not find this a logical outcome. Maybe we'll see the low 300's, but that's really it. There seems to be a lot of resistance around 350.

Also: I believe that most of the panic sellers have left already, but the coming days will have to prove that.

$5 Million between $400 - $200 , why won't they pull out.

Because they want all the cheap btc
hero member
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Another interesting statement from Bobby Lee:

Quote from: Bobby Lee, CEO of BTCChina
“A general lack of domestic investment targets, coupled with the lack of understanding of bitcoin led to bitcoins becoming speculative grade. After the April 15 message, investors will re-evaluate bitcoin, an industry reshuffle may also occur.”

Lee confirms that the ban will happen on April 15 and expects a massive crash. (Industry reshuffle + reevaluation because of too much speculation)

Wow, that sounds a lot more negative than what he stated he in the days before. Thanks for keeping this thread updated.
sr. member
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Another interesting statement from Bobby Lee:

Quote from: Bobby Lee, CEO of BTCChina
“A general lack of domestic investment targets, coupled with the lack of understanding of bitcoin led to bitcoins becoming speculative grade. After the April 15 message, investors will re-evaluate bitcoin, an industry reshuffle may also occur.”

Lee confirms that the ban will happen on April 15 and expects a massive crash. (Industry reshuffle + reevaluation because of too much speculation)
sr. member
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For the following machine translation, I couldn't find the original text in okcoin's website nor their weibo


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Source: Translation by BING.

We received a clear Merchants Bank, Shenzhen Branch of China
Construction Bank's notice, that it could not continue to provide
settlement for the Bitcoin industry, so we can not continue to use the
public accounts, the more feasible the personal card (I.E. Vouchers like BTCChina). We also consulted
the United States, livelihood and other banks, the other account
services are unable to provide feedback. Some people say that the era of
deliberately shutting down recharge deliberately operate covertly, and
if so, we would not have spread the OKCOIN.

Sorry. Updated the OP. It was BTC38's statement. Weird reference to OKCOIN?
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