Topic: Ban evasion - rchstr (Read 589 times)

Will I get a chance to get rid of my red tag? I haven't done anything to have it on my name. I'am not a scammer or be a threat on this forum. Im a trusted member of this forum
since then and doesn't fight with anyone from this forum. Also helped some members and even managed some bounties before. I just want to clear my name about this accusation.

Don't expect a proper usage of trust system from the people who has massively abused it back in the days, somehow managed to get out of it now, with a cool cool story of bla bla bla.
#MeritAbuser

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Very well said. I hope this newbie DTs will have some idea where a red tag appropriate and where not. Recently I have seen theymos had to come up with more specified instructions for red tagging. The forum members forget that there is a neutral feedback option too.


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Hello guys, So this issue's root is because of we used the same bitcoin wallet early month of 2017.That moment we are both new on this forum and also still innocent on how blockchain works.The truth is basesaw is my girlfriend's bitcointalk account.I must admit that the main reason for creating account on this forum that time is for bounties.(recommended by my friend for some income/we're both student that time.)

This will be a long story but I'll try to make it short. So on your reference you have quote that we use a same bitcoin address/wallet and thats true. basesaw's post that you have quoted is work from user lenny_ . As you can see I also worked on that thread( see this link for reference : https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.17917763 ) .

We have different bitcoin wallet address on that thread as Im using blockchain mobile wallet that time while my girlfriend uses my coins.ph (local bitcoin wallet here in the philippines) So you're thinking why she use my wallet. The reason is she cannot pass KYC that time because she has no valid or national ID that time so I let her use mine. I preffered to use blockchain.info mobile wallet because she does'nt know anything about this things and afraid to make mistakes thats why I let her use mine as it will be easier for her because coins.ph is not that complex to use.

Now she got banned from the forum from having plagiarism or spam post(that's what is stated, I really don't know which one she did).She already graduated and have a descent job, dont have time to do bounties and to appeal on why she is banned. I decided to use the bitcoin address as it will be hassle free in my part considering of fees when I have to transfer fund from other wallet to my coins.ph wallet.

I'll try to provide proofs if possible.

I'm with you on this one, I think that the temporary red tag was appropriate to prevent the bad evader from joining in any campaign in the meantime since his alleged first account, basesaw, might probably be banned from plagiarism. I don't even know why the tag is being debated on this one even if there are no transactions involve we all know plagiarism is still a crime and if the main account is banned already this is a good way to prevent any of their accounts on milking more money from the forum.

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Change your tag remarks on basesaw''s account.

Don't. I'm my own man.

I assessed the situation and reacted how I saw fit. The important point here, is that nobody get's hurt. Let's jsut hope this is the case.

As you pointed it out, if we prevented that loan from happening, it was worth it.

That was my thinking.  rchstr did ask for a loan, and if he's evading a ban that would be very risky for any lender.  I figured a tag was more than appropriate in this situation.

@asche, now I feel bad for pulling you into this.  I didn't mean to start a debate as to the appropriateness of tagging a ban-evader.

LoyceV did you even read why I still tag the user?
I wouldn't be tagging every forum rules breach.

This is merely to attract attention to the fact that he was someone else. If someone was to deal with him he could look at the person's doing on the other account.

Also a person that has been proven evading ban could be tempted to use his last days on the forum to do harm. The tag is merely trying to mitigate that.

As for your judgement I do not think it is off. It is not the first time I thing nemo's judgement is.

Also as you pointed out, the fact the user had 2 positive feedback was taken into consideration. I do not tag every ban evader I find. In fact there are some I do not even report if I am being honest.

Ban evasion should be dealt with by Mods, as it breaks forum rules. Tags shouldn't be used to enforce forum rules.

Scams aren't moderated, that's why a scammer's alt should be tagged.

Is my judgement off too? I thought this is something most DTs more or less agreed upon.
However, this is a green trusted user, it doesn't hurt to at least "neutralize" that until he's banned.

Update: this tag says basesaw is an alt of basesaw

Second time I feel like putting the word stupid in the subject...

Mods & DT's are doing something fundamentaly different.

DT's are warning the community that the person might not be trustworthy.
Moderators are here to enforce forum rules.

Ban evasion is a breach of forum rules. It also means said account is owned by a person that has been banned. The fact he broke the rule and came back shows he can't be trusted, hence the tag. This doesn't mean the mods don't have to do their work tho.

While you are right that they need to be reported, which I did, they also need to get tagged so that they can't do any harm until the report is handled.


If you see a little girl get strangled in the street by a teenager, will you take a picture and go to the police to get the to arrest the guy, or will you save the girls life? Your call.
Anyway, putting you in ~. Your judgement is way off in my opinion.

So theymos have to replace all the moderators as DT and give permission to tag those ban evaders.

Ban evasion is actually against the forum rule but DT members were here to warn the forum people from the scammers not from who did plagiarism and got banned for that.

I see these worthless tag reduce the activity of one of the most active poster to almost to zero.

It is funny to see the people change in behavior.

Having alts is very much allowed but under these circumstances. Someone is evading ban... It's against the forum rules and so members ought to know which kind of person they are dealing with before that person finally gets banned.
Correct... but they also carry responsibility to safe guard community members.

I am not here to support anyone but I don't see any offence which worth red tag from the banned account so how can we give a red tag to the alt of the same person,remember having an alt is not against the rule,only abusing bounties with alts deserves red tag.

Ban evader needs to be reported and will be handled by moderators when they found enough proof on the report,

DTs are not moderators.

@S_Therapist, It's the same as tagging an account for being an alt for someone who has committed an offense in the past that is gravely against the forum rules. I don't seen why tagging a ban evader would be any different.

It's like avoiding to tag chaps who spread malware around thinking that the report you have made to the mods will work and get them nuked. Sometimes they don't get nuked. I can even send you classical link of a malware scammer whose post has never been deleted to this date, and yet I did the reporting.

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Just trying to drive the point home from a different perspective  

Why do you guys even indulge him?

This is really not the place to argue about this with him for the zillionst time.

A member evading his ban shoudn't be trusted. Tagging him serves to warn other members to avoid dealing with him until mods take act and ban him.

Tags are not worthless, unless you tag the user that's already banned, then it's kinda worthless lol.

Again, couldn't care less about your opinion and/or misguided advice.