Ban evason rule for Profiles representing Businesses [Inquiry] - page 2.

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Quote from: BitcoinGirl.Club on July 13, 2024, 10:13:15 AM

It's supposed to be applied to the person but because we do not have KYC, it is difficult to determine who is creating the second account. If the second person works under the same company then the community will think that it's the same person who created the account after receiving a ban.

With the lack of KYC it can even be argued that the banned profile is not affiliated with the project at all and I would consider it unfair to ban a business from the forum for a personal mistake made by a rep, especially if that mistake has no benefit to the business activities here on the forum.

You have a good point. In that case someone with bad intention can damage a business from advertising and building up a reputation on the forum. I think Theymos needs to relaunch the April fool KYC 😂

Quote from: PX-Z on July 13, 2024, 10:33:45 AM

But is there any incident like this happened before?

It is complicated now it's even more complicated for the community members. There are some users who are actively looking for ban evading accounts and they will have false positive in their researches.

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Quote from: _act_ on July 13, 2024, 09:14:47 AM

I think theymos will have to be the one to answer this question.

Yeah, that's why I directed it to the mods, hoping one of them gets to chime in.

Quote from: BitcoinGirl.Club on July 13, 2024, 10:13:15 AM

It's supposed to be applied to the person but because we do not have KYC, it is difficult to determine who is creating the second account. If the second person works under the same company then the community will think that it's the same person who created the account after receiving a ban.

With the lack of KYC it can even be argued that the banned profile is not affiliated with the project at all and I would consider it unfair to ban a business from the forum for a personal mistake made by a rep, especially if that mistake has no benefit to the business activities here on the forum.

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Quote from: BitcoinGirl.Club on July 13, 2024, 10:13:15 AM

Quote from: Upgrade00 on July 13, 2024, 08:32:11 AM

When an official profile representing a business is banned, is it a ban on the business or the exact rep behind the account and how can this be determined?

It's supposed to be applied to the person but because we do not have KYC, it is difficult to determine who is creating the second account. If the second person works under the same company then the community will think that it's the same person who created the account after receiving a ban.

It's complicated actually, it will give a bad taste to the community for a business representative having such reputation here, to it's business directly in general. Of course, mods will stick to the rules of the person getting banned not the business itself.

But is there any incident like this happened before?

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Quote from: Upgrade00 on July 13, 2024, 08:32:11 AM

When an official profile representing a business is banned, is it a ban on the business or the exact rep behind the account and how can this be determined?

Ban is on a person, not account of a brand representative or a signature campaign manager.

There was a drama that a ban evader used personal account and business accounts of some companies but I remember the business accounts of companies hired that banned person, were not banned at all.

Forum rule on bans for ban evasion seems to be softer for brands, companies if they only did not know that a person worked for them as a signature campaign manager, a customer support staff was banned before.

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Quote from: Upgrade00 on July 13, 2024, 08:32:11 AM

When an official profile representing a business is banned, is it a ban on the business or the exact rep behind the account and how can this be determined?

It's supposed to be applied to the person but because we do not have KYC, it is difficult to determine who is creating the second account. If the second person works under the same company then the community will think that it's the same person who created the account after receiving a ban.

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Quote from: Upgrade00 on July 13, 2024, 08:32:11 AM

When an official profile representing a business is banned, is it a ban on the business or the exact rep behind the account and how can this be determined?

A registered company is an entity, different from anyone representing the company. This means the company can be sued and can sue. But in the context of this forum, it's somehow complicated.

Let's say a business has an account here which more than one person manages.
If one of the persons managing the account caused the account to be banned, there's no way to determine whatever than to believe the business is banned.
If the business returns and informs the forum that a new person is behind its management, there's no how the forum will know if it's true or not.

The best thing is to avoid being banned as a business. But if banned, come to meta and appeal rather than making another account. Unless you are willing to change your domain name and every other things related to the account.

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I think theymos will have to be the one to answer this question. But I think if an account is banned because of plagiarism, any account related to that person known on this forum are also going to be banned. It is not about business or not business. If a company is affected because the person they hired is banned, the company can appeal for the ban.

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On a personal level, if an account is banned for any reason especially for plagiarism whether it's of the main account or a representative account it has an effect on the business.

If the business comes with another account it might considered evasion because the representative has already caused a bad reputation for the business.

I believe the officiality of this will be subjective.

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I have a question regarding ban evasion (for plagiarism) on official accounts which I'll like to ask the mods. This is in not in direct relation to any signature campaign which was launched recently, just a question I have been meaning to seek clarification on.

When an official profile representing a business is banned, is it a ban on the business or the exact rep behind the account and how can this be determined?

I like to think that it depends on what type of plagiarism results in the ban. If they are caught copying and pasting official content, like their ANN thread it should be a ban on the business, but if it's a personal post it should be a ban on the account that shouldn't limit the business from returning to the forum.

What is the official stand of the mods on this?

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