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March 15, 2015, 01:59:22 PM
#70
I'm about to pay an invoice for a domain. It cost $10/ year but the bank take $7.5 in transfer fee.
75% in fee Huh That is ridiculous and this is why Bitcoin will succeed in the long run.
Yes and thats not new to me at all.
Also, sometimes fee is less, depends of (as they describe) what you're paying online.
Was funny to me, so I declared all my online transactions as "Donation" and they give only minimum fee of 0.5% on transaction + 0.2% on banks taxes.
sr. member
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March 15, 2015, 11:44:30 AM
#69
If people really know how an Banks system works, BTC value will be at least $5K today.
legendary
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March 14, 2015, 07:14:52 PM
#68
Secondly, this AML rules are just silly. I pointed out the irony in it, if you think a few grandmas sending 2-3$ to their grandchildren are terrorists or part of an organized crime network then you are naive or ignorant (and i`m not talking about you, so no offence meant). Because you just restrict the freedom of normal people (like 99.999% of the polulation) to prevent a few criminals do something (0.001% of the pop) is very silly.

Also if you think about it, the only maffia here are the politicians, they are part of the real organized crime network called government: who counterfeit money (QE program & fractional reserve banking), steal money (taxation),harass people (inspection), all these criminal activities whitewashed just because many of the people think they are the good guys, when they are not, yet their legitimacy is never questioned though...

The AML rules are framed by governments not banks.  Smiley
Governments would always err on the side of caution when faced with the question of too much surveillance/reporting versus too less. They make the rules they are comfortable playing with.
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March 14, 2015, 02:42:01 PM
#67
Yeah well they dont care about minor transactors, if you want to wire transfer 1$ at a time to people then they dont let you waste their servers with such a low price transfer...

Also it can be an anti-money laundering mechanism too. Since banks only report transactions above 1000$ or € i think so if some criminal transacts 2-3$ at a time with 1 cent transaction fee then it can be laundered...

It definitely is something to do with cost. Banks hate voluminous, low-value transactions.

As far as anti-money laundering mechanisms are considered, banks have to be vigilant in any case. Multiple, low-value transactions below the reporting threshold are flagged. So if $1000 is the threshold, and you think you can get away with 5 x $200 transactions, you are wrong. The onus is on the banks to still flag these transactions, evaluate them and report them if they think there is no business reason behind these transactions.

Well first of it it isnt, i mean it's all done electronically we are not in the 60's anymore. If takes 1 milisecond of computer processing to clear a 1$ order, plus if you charge comissions you already block malicious flooding (for example 1 guy transfering 1 $ back and forth just to slow down the system) because the comission will eat away his capital if he does that too many times.

Secondly, this AML rules are just silly. I pointed out the irony in it, if you think a few grandmas sending 2-3$ to their grandchildren are terrorists or part of an organized crime network then you are naive or ignorant (and i`m not talking about you, so no offence meant). Because you just restrict the freedom of normal people (like 99.999% of the polulation) to prevent a few criminals do something (0.001% of the pop) is very silly.

Also if you think about it, the only maffia here are the politicians, they are part of the real organized crime network called government: who counterfeit money (QE program & fractional reserve banking), steal money (taxation),harass people (inspection), all these criminal activities whitewashed just because many of the people think they are the good guys, when they are not, yet their legitimacy is never questioned though...
legendary
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★Nitrogensports.eu★
March 13, 2015, 08:50:03 PM
#66
I'm about to pay an invoice for a domain. It cost $10/ year but the bank take $7.5 in transfer fee.
75% in fee Huh That is ridiculous and this is why Bitcoin will succeed in the long run.
First of all I got the impression that you are talking about international transfer of money. It will be virtually impossible to have that much of a fee with only local money transfer, unless of course your Bank is robbing you. Secondly I think that this fee is fixed so that mean that for transferring $100 or $500 bank is probably still charging only $7.5 fee so it is not that big of a deal when you are processing large sum of money.
legendary
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★Nitrogensports.eu★
March 13, 2015, 08:28:49 PM
#65
Yeah well they dont care about minor transactors, if you want to wire transfer 1$ at a time to people then they dont let you waste their servers with such a low price transfer...

Also it can be an anti-money laundering mechanism too. Since banks only report transactions above 1000$ or € i think so if some criminal transacts 2-3$ at a time with 1 cent transaction fee then it can be laundered...

It definitely is something to do with cost. Banks hate voluminous, low-value transactions.

As far as anti-money laundering mechanisms are considered, banks have to be vigilant in any case. Multiple, low-value transactions below the reporting threshold are flagged. So if $1000 is the threshold, and you think you can get away with 5 x $200 transactions, you are wrong. The onus is on the banks to still flag these transactions, evaluate them and report them if they think there is no business reason behind these transactions.
sr. member
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Undeads.com - P2E Runner Game
March 13, 2015, 05:51:57 PM
#64
These flat transaction fees can be killers for micro-transactions.
Banks haven't really understood the competition they face from Bitcoin. They will cut fees in due course.

Yeah well they dont care about minor transactors, if you want to wire transfer 1$ at a time to people then they dont let you waste their servers with such a low price transfer...

Also it can be an anti-money laundering mechanism too. Since banks only report transactions above 1000$ or € i think so if some criminal transacts 2-3$ at a time with 1 cent transaction fee then it can be laundered...

That is why micro transactions are discouraged... However because of a few criminals, everyone suffers though, which is an idiot logic, i`d rather let those criminals do whatever they want, so that other people would have back their freedom, because suppose how many poor people can't transaction small sums because of a few gangsters.

Speaking of which, probably all organized crime is already tied to politicians, so this AML rules are silly and bullcrap and hypocrite, better give people freedom because we already know who are the biggest criminals here...
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March 12, 2015, 01:23:17 PM
#63
SEPA transfers to the exchanges can cost €5 too. So all in all yeah it's pretty disgusting how much they charge.
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March 12, 2015, 10:25:50 AM
#62
Hello dear,

Use the bitcoin payment next time and all will be good
If the domain worth 75% than pay it.
If not buy new domain from namechep
legendary
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March 11, 2015, 11:55:46 PM
#61
take those bloody banks out Cheesy

we need a bitcoin bank.. and we need that badly.

and godaddy gotta start accepting bitcoin payments.

crypto will help many online users.

but physical system will lose business and we have to agree tax keeps a country alive.

Bitcoin bank? So in this institution, bitcoin is regulated by and controlled by a few people am I right? A bank is against Bitcoin's concept. What we really need is the merchants' support on bitcoin by integrating BTC into their business, not another bank.
legendary
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March 11, 2015, 06:32:56 PM
#60
I'm about to pay an invoice for a domain. It cost $10/ year but the bank take $7.5 in transfer fee.
75% in fee Huh That is ridiculous and this is why Bitcoin will succeed in the long run.

Maybe you should bother to buy domain though bank and to actually use some form of a pre pay debit card or get hosting and domain from a provider like name cheap where they accept bitcoin and works out a lot cheaper and less fees for you. Or find hosting in your country and pay via different method than bank. 75% is seriously stupid for fees that you should contact your bank and demand a refund or speak to some trading standards company to see if they are rightfully charging normally 1 to 2% I can understand with but 75% that is seriously over paid fee.
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Writing to dispel society's myths.
March 11, 2015, 05:32:38 PM
#59
I'm about to pay an invoice for a domain. It cost $10/ year but the bank take $7.5 in transfer fee.
75% in fee Huh That is ridiculous and this is why Bitcoin will succeed in the long run.
Waw this is a huge amount for fees , but i think the minimum fees for that bank should be 7.5$ ,
Also if you want to buy bitcoin you will find a lot of trouble if your bank is like that  Shocked ;
For me i always bought from internet.bs with 8.5$ per year and bought a cpanel from namecheap
with 9.88$ per year that mean almost 18 $ and this is what just domain cost you !

Bitcoin is really valuable even price drop or up , think about the privacy , no taxes ,,,

Hello dear,

You bought from internet.bs with 8.5$ per year
Renewing your domain name can not be the same price,
You know what I mean.

I think renewing could take up to 12 $ but i will be able then to renew it with my profit from the website !
i don't think also other domain renewed with banks will be cheap  Wink
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March 11, 2015, 05:30:42 PM
#58
I'm about to pay an invoice for a domain. It cost $10/ year but the bank take $7.5 in transfer fee.
75% in fee Huh That is ridiculous and this is why Bitcoin will succeed in the long run.
This is not the first time I saw that already had problems with banks they won't let any transactions without a
high fee rates and this is exactly why i prefer bitcoin
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March 11, 2015, 05:30:30 PM
#57
take those bloody banks out Cheesy

we need a bitcoin bank.. and we need that badly.

and godaddy gotta start accepting bitcoin payments.

crypto will help many online users.

but physical system will lose business and we have to agree tax keeps a country alive.
hero member
Activity: 714
Merit: 500
one for one and 1 2 3
March 11, 2015, 05:09:10 PM
#56
I'm about to pay an invoice for a domain. It cost $10/ year but the bank take $7.5 in transfer fee.
75% in fee Huh That is ridiculous and this is why Bitcoin will succeed in the long run.
Waw this is a huge amount for fees , but i think the minimum fees for that bank should be 7.5$ ,
Also if you want to buy bitcoin you will find a lot of trouble if your bank is like that  Shocked ;
For me i always bought from internet.bs with 8.5$ per year and bought a cpanel from namecheap
with 9.88$ per year that mean almost 18 $ and this is what just domain cost you !

Bitcoin is really valuable even price drop or up , think about the privacy , no taxes ,,,

Hello dear,

You bought from internet.bs with 8.5$ per year
Renewing your domain name can not be the same price,
You know what I mean.
sr. member
Activity: 322
Merit: 250
Writing to dispel society's myths.
March 11, 2015, 04:41:06 PM
#55
I'm about to pay an invoice for a domain. It cost $10/ year but the bank take $7.5 in transfer fee.
75% in fee Huh That is ridiculous and this is why Bitcoin will succeed in the long run.
Waw this is a huge amount for fees , but i think the minimum fees for that bank should be 7.5$ ,
Also if you want to buy bitcoin you will find a lot of trouble if your bank is like that  Shocked ;
For me i always bought from internet.bs with 8.5$ per year and bought a cpanel from namecheap
with 9.88$ per year that mean almost 18 $ and this is what just domain cost you !

Bitcoin is really valuable even price drop or up , think about the privacy , no taxes ,,,
legendary
Activity: 1568
Merit: 1169
March 11, 2015, 03:42:27 PM
#54
This is why you should use namecheap. You could pay with bitcoin.

+1

It's always nice to buy goods with BTC when you can buy them with fiat. Smiley
hero member
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March 11, 2015, 03:22:19 PM
#53
This is why you should use namecheap. You could pay with bitcoin.

Hello dear,

Namecheap are the best for me,
I never had any problem with them and I have a lots of businesses on namecheap
They always reply fast VIA support ticket or live chat.
legendary
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Cashback 15%
March 11, 2015, 03:14:56 PM
#52
Seems like your situation isn't ideal.. I don't know your reasons but this seems too high. Was there not a way to pay with Bitcoin (many companies offer this)?

Maybe OP isn't close to any similar service (or is isn't familiar with them.) Ridiculously high rates, when you could perform the same transactions without adding extra dollars with bitcoin.
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March 11, 2015, 03:09:30 PM
#51
Seems like your situation isn't ideal.. I don't know your reasons but this seems too high. Was there not a way to pay with Bitcoin (many companies offer this)?
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